The End Times

[kingkhanwc]

I’m aware no one knows of the last hour but Allah swt alone, let’s talk about potential signs and also links from the previous religions to the end of days. Do you think that the Third Temple whom the Jews are eagerly waiting to be built, will bring back the Jewish Messiah as they say aka Dajjal (possibly), Not only Trump declares Jerusalem to be the eternal capital of Israel, but they released temple mount coins for the Third temple with King Cyrus/Trump faces together with the third temple on the other side, possibly hinting that Under Trump, the third temple may be built under his reign because symbolically King Cyrus allowed the Jews to build the second temple and now politicians of Israel embassy stated that they have started collecting funds for this building which will have to replace the dome of the Rock, perhaps they’ll destroy it using HARP technology ? Not to mention the red heifers they brought in the area to sacrifise when the building is built ? Your thoughts ? 

[MartyS]

Greetings and peace,

I just read an article from the Daily Star, Sept 8, 2018: "Bible prophecy FULFILLED as 'first red heifer born in 2,000 YEARS' signaling END OF DAYS"

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/weird-news/728262/bible-prophecy-hebrew-red-heifer-messiah-jewish-christianity-israel-jerusalem-third-temple

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[hasanhh]

23 minutes ago, MartyS said:

Greetings and peace,

I just read an article from the Daily Star, Sept 8, 2018: "Bible prophecy FULFILLED as 'first red heifer born in 2,000 YEARS' signaling END OF DAYS"

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/weird-news/728262/bible-prophecy-hebrew-red-heifer-messiah-jewish-christianity-israel-jerusalem-third-temple

That had happened before, back in the 90s.

Kinda like the White Buffalo for the Cheyenne --one in the 90s and two or three times since.

[kingkhanwc]

My personal feelings is that people from at least the major three religions are going to be involved, perhaps the evangelical Christians and Jews who are Zionist aka the Western countries and Israel will be against the factions of other people from their religion and the Muslims, which will lead to a great war and there is some truth in the Bible so I am not surprised if some of their prophecies regarding the end times comes to be true from their perspective and in the end it will all link up together. 

[Qa'im]

Is there any Islamic textual evidence that a third temple would usher in the coming of the Dajjal?

[Abu Nur]

17 minutes ago, Qa'im said:

Is there any Islamic textual evidence that a third temple would usher in the coming of the Dajjal?

Salaam Aleikum,

Do we have any traditions about the third temple? 

[Qa'im]

1 hour ago, Abu Nur said:

Salaam Aleikum,

Do we have any traditions about the third temple?  

WS, I haven't seen any personally.

[kingkhanwc]

Not the third temple directly, but in Sunni hadith tradition, when Jerusalem will start to flourish as a state this will be at a time when Medina well become deserted with a lot of struggle which then following there will be a battle between Rum and Muslims to conquer constatinople which will then mark the coming of Dajjal and the fact that Isa ibn Maryam as will kill dajjal in the gates of Ludd which is Israel. The reason why I say personally to watch out for the third temple is because unlike the Christians and Muslims, the Jews are waiting for a messiah other than Jesus as who I suspect to be Dajjal. I do believe there’s truth in the previous books to an extent mixed with falsehood hence i’m not surprised if they conduct rituals and prophecies go by regarding the Jewish Messiah that they want to usher in and a major part of that is the Third Temple who even some Christians believe that there will be a figure claiming worship in the temple, so in conclusion I think all three major religions will have a huge role to play in the end times, you don’t have to accept the latter part of my world view but that’s my opinion and i’ll continue to be observing the world. 

[MartyS]

 

4 hours ago, kingkhanwc said:

My personal feelings is that people from at least the major three religions are going to be involved, perhaps the evangelical Christians and Jews who are Zionist aka the Western countries and Israel will be against the factions of other people from their religion and the Muslims, which will lead to a great war and there is some truth in the Bible so I am not surprised if some of their prophecies regarding the end times comes to be true from their perspective and in the end it will all link up together. 

I like that part about..."in the end it will all link up together."

And many nations shall join themselves to the LORD in that day, and shall be my people. And I will dwell in your midst, and you shall know that the LORD of hosts has sent me to you. - Zechariah 2:11

Peace and blessings,

[MartyS]

Kingkhanwc,

Concerning the third temple, you posted... "and now politicians of Israel embassy stated that they have started collecting funds for this building which will have to replace the dome of the Rock..."

I have read a Christian commentary on the book of Revelation that believes the Dome of the Rock is situated in the outer court of the original temple site.

The False Prophet, by Ellis Skolfield, p.51, "The House of the Lord, which only the sons of Aaron could enter, stood over that little flat rock some 300+ feet north of where the Dome now stands. We know exactly where the temple stood because of holes drilled in the bedrock that are spaced on the sacred cubit. The sacred cubit could be used only in the temple itself, and these holes pinpoint the exact location of the House of the Lord."

Revelation 11:1-2a seems to imply sharing the Temple Mount.

"Then I was given a measuring rod like a staff, and I was told, 'Rise and measure the temple of God and the altar and those who worship there, but do not measure the court outside the temple; leave that out, for it is given over to the nations...'" - Revelation 11:1-2a

What are your thoughts? Thank you.

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[kingkhanwc]

@MartyS Dear Marty, I like how you brought out that Zachariah verses because yes even though we may disagree theologically about the position of Jesus pbuh, but i’m not surprised and I do believe that in the end, he will clarify the matter and from my perspective as well as Sunni narrations, there will be good Christians/Jews along with others (possibly), against others of their own faith and that people from different nations will link up to the same point because after all we’re dealing with the biggest events of the world, not just some small conflict but as for the location of the Temple Mount, i’ve seen videos claiming the location to be around different places, possibly it might be near the Dome of the Rock instead of the same location as I need to look for in to it further however the main importance is the whether it will be built or not with the ritual preperations since location is important but all we can do is just sit by and watch the signs unfold. 

[Ashvazdanghe]

3 hours ago, kingkhanwc said:

possibly it might be near the Dome of the Rock instead of the same location as I need to look for in to it further however the main importance is the whether it will be built or not with the ritual preperations since location is important but all we can do is just sit by and watch the signs unfold. 

Salam the problem of zionist is not with Dome of Rock , their main problem is with Kaaba they consider it as Babylon cube ,they have prophecies that Medean (current Iran) must destroys Kaaba & then builds third temple for them ,because it said that they can't stablish a temple by themselves only Iranians can do it for them & after finishing of building of third Temple by Iranians they can take control of whole of Jerusalem.I saw a video that claimed a very conservative zionist Rabbis asked from Imam Khamenei that Iran builds nuclear bomb to destroys Kaaba & then builds third Temple for them.

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[kingkhanwc]

You mean some conspiracy theorists think that the Kaaba is the black cube of Saturn aka Satan worship ? I had a look into that and I think it’s not true simply because the cover of the Kaaba is black with gold, in the past it was multi coloured. I personally don’t think the Zionists are interested in the Kaaba at the moment since they want to fulfil their own prophecies and rituals ie the coming of the Jewish messiah, maybe afterwards it will become a centre piece since in our narrations I think a group of Ethiopians will destroy it but I need to double check it. It’s more than just Zionism, it’s spiritual warfare. @Ashvazdanghe

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[Ashvazdanghe]

4 minutes ago, kingkhanwc said:

I think a group of Ethiopians will destroy it but I need to double check it. It’s more than just Zionism, it’s spiritual warfare.

Iran (Medean) in all of Zionists & evangelicals prophecies has main rule because of that Israel claims that  wants to be friend of Iran in order to they toghether  fulfill prophecies against rest of Muslims & their sacred places the problem of Israel is with Iran Regime & wants a new regime for it that will be friend of Israel.

[kingkhanwc]

Well there is in Sunni narrations that Dajjal will come out with an army of 70,000 Jews, maybe that’s possibly related @Ashvazdanghe

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[Ashvazdanghe]

18 minutes ago, kingkhanwc said:

Well there is in Sunni narrations that Dajjal will come out with an army of 70,000 Jews, maybe that’s possibly related 

i see it  but it doesn't looks rational for me.

Muhammad ibn Yahya has narrated from Ahmad ibn Muhammad from Muhammad ibn Khalid from Sayabah who has said the following:
 

"A man once asked abu 'Abd Allah, 'Alayhi al-Salam, saying, 'I pray to Allah to keep my soul in 
service for your cause, I hear a people who say that farming is Makruh (detestable).' He (the Imam) 
said, 'You must farm and plant, by Allah, there is no work that people do which is sweeter and fine 
than farming. By Allah, farming will be done as well as plantations even after the emergence of al- 
dajjal.'" 

http://www.fourshiabooks.com/hadith/al-kafi/18/123/3

for Us Dajjal is most symbolic than a person only place that refers to his battle with Imam Mahdi (aj) in shia sources by Allam Kurani the famous Shia researcher in case of Imam Mahdi(aj) ,he mentioned that Imam Mahdi (aj) will fight & defeat him in outskirt of Jerusalem & before entering to Jerusalem & will curicify him in a place that garbages of kufa city collects in name of Kanasa. also Imam Mahdi will fight with 70 Pious Shias that won't let him enter to Kufa & will kill them.

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[Carlzone]

Isn't dajjal the illuminati?

[kingkhanwc]

I think Dajjal obviously will have to have a system in place, which is quite evident it is but I think there’s possibly forms in truth in all narrations even previous books as well, so I respect your opinion you’re quoting to me your books and stuff in there probably will come to be but everyone will link up to one point and I don’t think it’s fair to weigh up Sunni Shia narrations against each other and say because mine says X then it must be true regarding the end times, something which has not happened yet, so all I would say is just carry on what you’re doing and wait for signs to unravel. Peace @Ashvazdanghe and if anyone asks, no i’m not a Perrennialist 

[kingkhanwc]

I think Illuminati is a term they’ve thrown at us, it sounds like a meme, let’s just say secret societies or elitists call it whatever really. @Carlzone

[kingkhanwc]

Sorry for triple posting dear moderators forgive me but I have to, since we’re talking about truth like when Dajjal will have an army of 70,000 Jews out of Esfahan it does not have to be literally a figure coming out then and there after all if you take everything pure literal, then good luck waiting to see Dajjal fly on a donkey with two long streched ears (40 hands length), you can if you wish to but I and others would take that to be aircraft or of somesort of air transport. @Ashvazdanghe

[Carlzone]

16 minutes ago, kingkhanwc said:

I think Illuminati is a term they’ve thrown at us, it sounds like a meme, let’s just say secret societies or elitists call it whatever really. @Carlzone

I don't get your point. 

I think the illuminati or whatever you may call it seems to fit the description of dajjal. 

[kingkhanwc]

What i’m saying is that’s what we’ve been told, they’re called the Illuminati that’s a name that they’ve thrown out at us but i’m saying sure you can call them that but I think it goes deeper than that and we’ve been told, freemasons, illuminati, elitists, globalists as long as I know there’s powerful forces at hand throwing symbology at us like in Saudi Arabia with the Egyptian one eyed logo on their police force or the parliament building in Iran, that’s enough for me to get by. @Carlzone

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[kingkhanwc]

By the way guys, what do you think of this https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2800399/my-brother-told-god-didn-t-love-ariana-grande-reveals-turned-kabbalah-homosexual-brother-shunned-catholic-church.html lol

[Carlzone]

7 minutes ago, kingkhanwc said:

By the way guys, what do you think of this https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2800399/my-brother-told-god-didn-t-love-ariana-grande-reveals-turned-kabbalah-homosexual-brother-shunned-catholic-church.html lol

Well that's very normal  for people who want to keep doing their sins without being told they are wrong. 

The tools she is mentioning are most likely magic techniques and devil worshipping. If she wants to sell her soul to gain donya that is a real loss but her choice of course. 

They are trying to make these devious practices seem cool since celebrities are engaging in them.

[kingkhanwc]

Absolutely and like if you see videos of Rabbi’s speaking about Kabbalah and other occultists in general, they’ll tell you they are contacting different beings in a different dimension but on Earth, sounds fitting with the concept of Jinns right ? @Carlzone

[Carlzone]

21 minutes ago, kingkhanwc said:

Absolutely and like if you see videos of Rabbi’s speaking about Kabbalah and other occultists in general, they’ll tell you they are contacting different beings in a different dimension but on Earth, sounds fitting with the concept of Jinns right ? @Carlzone

Yes, exactly. 

[kingkhanwc]

That’s it my brother, just sip a can of coke and let the signs unfold. @Carlzone

[Ashvazdanghe]

10 hours ago, kingkhanwc said:

pure literal, then good luck waiting to see Dajjal fly on a donkey with two long streched ears (40 hands length), you can if you wish to but I and others would take that to be aircraft or of somesort of air transpor

Salam if he flys with these attributes the satellites & speaceship will be more more compatible for it as space Shattles also can go to space & back to earth as a aircraft also has that length also a two clouds are with it same as Dajjal also with satellite you can control media & communication & internet & whole world listens to it & current global media mainly controls by Zionists around the world so it emerges from many years ago from Yahudia & an army of 70000 Jews ha no point because it’s a little army in comparison with other armies 

Israel Sanhedrin’s to Iran :”Help us build the third Temple”

Third Temple Shekel |Iran+Trump (Bible prophecy fulfilled) warning inappropriate dress code of woman speaker

signs of the reappearance -Imam Mahdi (atf) 

 

[kingkhanwc]

Look at Israel though, a small army and nation surrounded by more enemies, yet they manhandled everyone due to better technology and backing, Dajjal’s army could of been given the permission by God to be stronger than usual as a fitnah for us. @Ashvazdanghe

[Ashvazdanghe]

25 minutes ago, kingkhanwc said:

Dajjal’s army could of been given the permission by God to be stronger than usual as a fitnah for us

only Army of Allah can be stronger than usual When Imam Mahdi (aj) reappears by permission of Allah will give to his Army strength of 40 men & will unlock all of their mind capacity every satanic army just shows illusions to terrify people but in reality they can't do anything.

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[kingkhanwc]

It does not help either that terrorist groups like Daesh and others, are being perpetuated by the media so much for different agendas, that when al Mahdi comes, people in the West will automatically deem that as a terror group like the others and maybe Muslims even in these countries might be prevented from going because the media might trick them though everyone will recognise who he is, that could be another test in itself, if you know what I mean. @Ashvazdanghe

[Ashvazdanghe]

1 minute ago, kingkhanwc said:

that could be another test in itself

in shia hadiths said when he reappears whole world curses him at first because of false Mahdis before him like as Usama bin laden & Abubakr Al Baghdai & Ahmad Al-Hasan and rest of these guys that by misusing hadiths & prophecies about him caused trouble for all people specially Muslims but after a short while after descending of Prophet Isa (as) for accompanying with him & verifying him people will change their mind toward him for us the above false Mahdis are product of Dajjalic system that they created illusions but after reappearance of him they will erase.

[kingkhanwc]

Do Shias believe Isa ibn Maryam (Jesus pbuh) is the Messiah and the one who will kill Dajjal ? @Ashvazdanghe

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[MartyS]

Blessings,

It seems to me that the Jewish people WILL recognize and accept Jesus as their Messiah...this time! 

"On that day the LORD will protect the inhabitants of Jerusalem, so that the feeblest among them on that day shall be like David, and the house of David shall be like God, like the angel of the LORD, going before them. And on that day I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem. And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and pleas for mercy, so that, when they look on me, on him whom they have pierced, they shall mourn for him, as one mourns for an only child, and weep bitterly over him, as one weeps over a firstborn." - Zechariah 12:8-10

As a Christian foreigner (along with my Muslim friends) to the house of Israel, I wonder if it is YHWH's purpose to bless us all through the third temple? 

"And the foreigners who join themselves to the LORD, to minister to him, to love the name of the LORD, and to be his servants, everyone who keeps the Sabbath and does not profane it, and holds fast my covenant, these I will bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer; their burnt offerings and their sacrifices will be accepted on my altar; for my house shall be called a house of prayer for all peoples."  - Isaiah 56:6-7

[kingkhanwc]

Do you personally believe people outside will recognise your perception of Jesus pbuh when he returns to fulfil his mission ? I do believe Jews Christians and Muslims (possibly others), will see and accept his message whatever it may be, but i’m sure that does not neccesarily mean that every single person on the planet will accept him, but yeah tell me your conception of what will happen, i’m interested ? @MartyS and be fully honest.