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First, the people of Iraq fought the Akkadians,
then the Assyrians, the Persians, the Greek,
then the Roman Empire, then suffered the Sunni invasion,
then the Islamic Civil War happened, then the Battle of Karbala,
the Second Islamic Civil War, the Baghdad Revolt,
the Mongol Invasion, the Turco-Mongols, the Ottoman Empire, the Persians again, the Ottomans again, the Mamluks,
the Ottomans, the British, the British again,
the 14th of July Revolution - British Monarchy falls,
the Ba'ath Socialist Party invades - they lose power,
they invade again,
Saddam Hussein brings death and misery for decades,
then the Americans invade for 9 years - they give up and leave,
then the Iraqis fight off Al-Qaeda,
then they fought off ISIS flawlessly,
the Kurds then attempt to start a war as soon as the Iraqis finish off ISIS in order to take advantage of their shaky legs and tired bodies -
the Kurds then surrender the North of Iraq to the Iraqis.... This is who you are dealing with...
And now, for the first time in many ages, Iraq is (relatively) peaceful.
No war. The people still stand strong, happy, laughing, smiling, dancing, having a good time with faith in God even after all the adversity that overcame their land.
If a plague were to take the entire world, or flames consume it, Iraq would be the last to fall.
The Lions of Babylon.

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I wouldn't be proud to call yourselves the "lions of Babylon". The lion of Babylon was symbolic of the king of Babylon and Nimrod was a king of Babylon... Be lions of Ali (as) not lions of Nimrod (la). Saying "the people of Iraq" that far back is totally anachronistic as the concept of Iraq as it now exists just didn't exist. "Sunni invasion" is also anachronistic since sunnis didn't exist. Iraq didn't fight isis flawlessly either given how Iraqi soldiers fled Mosul like cowards originally. The entire post is nationalistic pseudo-historical nonsense.

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8 hours ago, Thabit Al Jumayli said:

No war. The people still stand strong, happy, laughing, smiling, dancing, having a good time with faith in God even after all the adversity that overcame their land.
If a plague were to take the entire world, or flames consume it, Iraq would be the last to fall.
The Lions of Babylon.

Currently Iraq is in eye of storm but again before reappearance of Imam Mahdi (aj) ,Sufyani (la) will attack there Shias of Iraq instead of fighting with Iran need to prepare themselves for hard time that is coming.  

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On 7/18/2018 at 7:13 PM, Lion of Shia said:

so are you saying Iraq is like Afghanistan?

Imam Ali (AS), in expressing the signs of the Qa'im (PBUH) uprising, said: In Babylonia, a severe illness occurs; then there will be many creatures destroyed, and many will be sunk.

إلزام الناصب، ج 2، ص 161، خطبۀ بیان 1 

Alzam Al Ansab ,v2,p161,Khutba Bayab 1

http://www.askdin.com/showthread.php?t=58663

Imam ali (as):My friend, Prophet Muhammad (SAW), forbade me from praying in the graveyard, and also  at Babylon, because the land is cursed.

(۳۰) محمد بن جریر طبری، جامع البیان فی تفسیرالقرآن، بیروت ۱۴۰۰ـ۱۴۰۳/۱۹۸۰ـ ۱۹۸۳.

http://wikifeqh.ir/بابل_(به_کسر_باء)

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On 7/18/2018 at 3:06 PM, Shi3i_jadeed said:

I wouldn't be proud to call yourselves the "lions of Babylon". The lion of Babylon was symbolic of the king of Babylon and Nimrod was a king of Babylon... Be lions of Ali (as) not lions of Nimrod (la).

We are proud of being called the Lions of Babylon and the Usood Al-Rafidain (Lions of Mesopotamia) simply because we are proud of our land, nothing more nothing less.

On 7/18/2018 at 3:06 PM, Shi3i_jadeed said:

Saying "the people of Iraq" that far back is totally anachronistic as the concept of Iraq as it now exists just didn't exist.

Now you are just nit-picking my brother, and I feel silly for replying, anyway - saying (Iraqis) would be the exact definition of anachronistic, which is why I specifically and consciously said (the 'People' of Iraq) - as in the 'People' of the land. Iraq always existed, it just wasn't called Iraq, but now it is. So why am I calling it Iraq? Because I'm living in the modern era, it is Iraq now. Do I really have to explain that to you?

On 7/18/2018 at 3:06 PM, Shi3i_jadeed said:

"Sunni invasion" is also anachronistic since sunnis didn't exist.

*Deep breath" Why are you doing this brother? .... I called the Rashidun Caliphate and the Ummayad Caliphate Invasions Sunni because these Caliphates and their Caliphs are partly responsible for the foundation of the Sunni sect. But NOW it is Sunni history, I called it Sunni because we are living in the modern era....

On 7/18/2018 at 3:06 PM, Shi3i_jadeed said:

Iraq didn't fight isis flawlessly either given how Iraqi soldiers fled Mosul like cowards originally.

My brother, I'm trying to use this website peacefully and to learn about my Religion even further, but you are just being straight up insulting, disrespectful and nitpicking big time. I would never talk to somebody like that. They fled Mosul like cowards? I'm just going to leave that statement alone since I'm guessing you would have stayed and fought ISIS when they were at their most dominant in 2014-2015.

On 7/18/2018 at 3:06 PM, Shi3i_jadeed said:

The entire post is nationalistic pseudo-historical nonsense.

I tried my best to be peaceful with you. That's the best I can do. I will not be using Shia Chat any longer after the responses I have gotten to my posts lately, you can call it sensitive, I call it a cursed Ummah. I receive so much love from the Jews and the Christians but the Muslims are proof of why the middle east is the way it is. Enjoy MuslimsDisagreeWithEachOtherConstantly.com - I shall seek even more refuge with the Quran after these encounters. I am so disappointed in my people. And don't worry, I know you'll "disagree" with this post as well, but don't bother retorting, I won't be here to reply.

Peace be with you.

And the servants of the Most Merciful are those who walk upon the earth easily, and when the ignorant address them [harshly], they say [words of] peace. [25:63]

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On 7/18/2018 at 6:18 PM, Ashvazdanghe said:

Currently Iraq is in eye of storm but again before reappearance of Imam Mahdi (aj) ,Sufyani (la) will attack there Shias of Iraq instead of fighting with Iran need to prepare themselves for hard time that is coming.  

Mhm.

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7 hours ago, Thabit Al Jumayli said:

What?

i mean Afghanistan was invaded so many times in its history,by different groups and the people were strong and it is also known as the "graveyard of empires", I ment was are you comparing that to Iraq?

Edited by Lion of Shia

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On 7/19/2018 at 8:16 AM, Thabit Al Jumayli said:

Peace be with you.

And the servants of the Most Merciful are those who walk upon the earth easily, and when the ignorant address them [harshly], they say [words of] peace. [25:63]

Walaykum Salam


Sorry for causing offense. I didn't intend to, I only intended to critique the nationalistic rhetoric you were putting forth. Thanks for replying respectfully. 

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Speak for urself bro! No one I know that’s iraqi(including myself) thinks of Iraqis the way you do.. ur fooling urself lol actually most Iraqis think negatively about our own people back home!!! Especially the ones in the governmenr who have the chance to help the whole country but choose to launder money lol Idk what rock u live under brother but almost every other Arab country is either more advanced or just more civilized than us! Karbala has wires hanging down to our heads by the holiest places, and Basra has a road that runs from the airport to like(basically the city), that has just garbage on both sides the whole way lol sadly I couldn’t visit the north when I went but my experience there made me and my bro change our flights and cut back home within two weeks if even that lol sad but true! And lions of Iraq isn’t something Shias like to be called, like one guy said that goes back to a nasty ruler/person lol get ur facts right bro cmon!!

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9 minutes ago, Mohammed-Mehdi said:

Do you listen to speeches of Shaykh Jalal Al Deen Al Sagheer ? Very useful I think.

It is in arabic.

https://www.sh-alsagheer.com/post/435

I cannot understand Arabic. I am not Arab.

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14 hours ago, Abbas0 said:

the governmenr who have the chance to help the whole country but choose to launder money

This is true. The government does make it hard for us people. I don't live in Iraq, but most of my family does and only with money you can get out of there the electricity in the summer is bad and does switch off because of the heat. 

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2 hours ago, Mortadakerim said:

This is true. The government does make it hard for us people. I don't live in Iraq, but most of my family does and only with money you can get out of there the electricity in the summer is bad and does switch off because of the heat. 

The Shaykh I mentioned above talked about this problem recently, also about the protests. He knows  well about Iraqi politics I believe. https://www.sh-alsagheer.com/post/435

He mentioned something very important, that the Iraqi people waste a lot of electricity, comparing it to Europe. also the water. If every household has such problems in total the amounts are going to be huge. 
It is true, haven't you noticed how every TV, devices , tv's and many air-conditionings are running during the hours of electricity ?  This in combination with the already bad ifrastrcture etc. and corruption and the serious heat for months result in this situation I believe.

I must say that wasting energy an water is a global problem. Also we should consider eating less meat. Especially with the injected hormones and other bad stuff in this day and age. While in our religion in general it is better to eat less meat then more, to a certain point.

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