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An agreement with the United States is not worth the paper it's written on. I feel sorry for people who do not see this because it's like forgetting that the sky is blue.

Iraq government will benefit much from America as long as they can stay corrupted.

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15 hours ago, Sumerian said:
22 hours ago, Shiawarrior313 said:

 

Iran is not Hezbollah. Iran has a population of 80 million, you bomb and block their main source of income and the country is in an economic crisis. Too much vulnerabilities to fight a war with the most powerful country.

Are you comparing one spy plane to an entire arsenal of the greatest planes humans have created? In any way, the US will he deploying entire squadrons of aircraft, which even the greatest air defenses combined can't stop. It is a fact, the US is above and beyond in airpower.

And you can't say "even the Chinese", the Chinese are ahead of Iran as well.

Where are those planes going to come from, when Iran has destroyed all their military bases, aircraft carriers in the region. Your American worship is strong and make too many assumptions on the greatness of their military and weakness of Iran, which you have little knowledge of. In key areas Iran is within the latest technologies and capable of taking out US planes. Taking down the American spy plane is an example of surprising the enemy with technology Iran is not expected to have. If they can detect stealth, they can take them down.

If you want to consider ramifications of war, Iran will take out all energy exports in the region, closing down strait of Hormoz and Bab-el-Mandeb in Yemen. Destroying oil pipelines from Arab countries and so forth. That's 2/3 of the world's energy supplies. 

United states is incapable of extended warfare beyond the initial bombing runs, Iran however is fully capable of going all the way. 

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/opinion-parsi-war-with-iran_us_5abd46fde4b055e50acc2e82

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Iran's strength lies in its asymmetric warfare strategy. The ability to absorb damage and attack the enemies weaknesses. Iran is fully capable of taking in far more damage than any other nation and continue operations, as demonstrated during its Iran-Iraq war of the 1980s. This is something classic warfare analysts are incapable of understanding and get caught up in numbers and weapon superiority. Making comparisons to US-Iraq war or dismissing Iran's tech as outdated or limited to mainly missiles. For them, Israel being defeated by Hezbollah in 2006 is perplexing, or for that matter, Saudis not being able to defeated the Yemenis through complete air superiority. 

Iran's economy and military are designed for long term war against the US. The current economic problems are artificial, as the westernized forces in charge of government and parliament, are following an agenda of trying to force the regime to accept continuing negotiations with the west (missile, regional power, islamic culture), through paralyzing the economy. The infrastructure to shift the economy to a "war time" resistance economy exists and can be put into place once the situation arises. 

US, on the other hand, is incapable of a continuous 6 month+ warfare, with energy export from middle east being cut off. Hence, why they have never attacked Iran (as they can manufacture an excuse or escalation) and are focusing on proxy and economic warfare. They have already lost the proxy warfare through the jihadis and their best chance currently is economic warfare through the westernized forces in Iran. But how long will that last?

 

We could ‘destroy all US bases in region & create hell for Zionist regime’ – Iranian commander

https://www.rt.com/news/418430-iran-israel-hell-zionist/

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1 hour ago, Shiawarrior313 said:

Where are those planes going to come from, when Iran has destroyed all their military bases, aircraft carriers in the region. Your American worship is strong and make too many assumptions on the greatness of their military and weakness of Iran, which you have little knowledge of. In key areas Iran is within the latest technologies and capable of taking out US planes. Taking down the American spy plane is an example of surprising the enemy with technology Iran is not expected to have. If they can detect stealth, they can take them down.

If you want to consider ramifications of war, Iran will take out all energy exports in the region, closing down strait of Hormoz and Bab-el-Mandeb in Yemen. Destroying oil pipelines from Arab countries and so forth. That's 2/3 of the world's energy supplies. 

United states is incapable of extended warfare beyond the initial bombing runs, Iran however is fully capable of going all the way. 

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/opinion-parsi-war-with-iran_us_5abd46fde4b055e50acc2e82

American worship? Don't you dare accuse me of that. America invaded and destroyed my country and my people. I hate them more than anyone. I don't want the same to happen in yours. The death of one mu'min is a catastrophe.

The planes come from their aircraft carriers or even continental USA via air refueling. And you act like it is a given Iran will destroy US bases. They can cut off the world's oil (btw US keeps a strategic reserve for a reason) but that will make the world hate Iran even more and push the US to further escalation. Stop acting like this is Dragon Ball Z.

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1 hour ago, Sumerian said:

American worship? Don't you dare accuse me of that. America invaded and destroyed my country and my people. I hate them more than anyone. I don't want the same to happen in yours. The death of one mu'min is a catastrophe.

The planes come from their aircraft carriers or even continental USA via air refueling. And you act like it is a given Iran will destroy US bases. They can cut off the world's oil (btw US keeps a strategic reserve for a reason) but that will make the world hate Iran even more and push the US to further escalation. Stop acting like this is Dragon Ball Z.

Glad you see the Americans as what they are. However, you're overestimating their capabilities.

When it comes to believers vs non believers, there is always the aspect of supernatural. Battle of Badr, 313 vs 1000+ is a good example. There was quite a bit of that with Hezbollah vs Israel in 2006 as well, as well as Iran-Iraq war. When an army has god on their side, they gain the most by understanding how god intervenes on their behalf, and strategizes with that understanding. In Iraq-Iraq war, the Iranians would carry on operations which normally have very little chance of success but succeed regardless by calling the operation "ya Fatemeh Zahra" or something similar. Or, they would call the name of ahlulbait and just drive through mortar shells with confidence without being damaged. That war was Soviet Union + US + 80 others supporting Sadam with unlimited budget and weaponry against post revolution Iran.

Regarding the perception of war, the world is already against the US and they will see the US as the aggressor, both in the US and outside. One thing the westerners cannot handle, is hardship. There is a reason why Israel always sues for peace after x amount of days after Palestinian resistance fires missiles at them. Hence their wars are known by the number of days the fight: 8 day war, 51 days war, 33 days war... Cutting off 2/3 of world energy will have a devastating effect on world economy that will force the US to back down. Military response will not be able to start up the energy transfer, since they will not be able to stop Iran's missile, just as Israel was unable to stop Hezbollah's missiles. Thats the advantage of asymmetric warfare.

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@Shiawarrior313

Brother, please stop giving away Shia secrets of war.  :verryhappy:

 

@baradar_jackson

I don't expect the Iranians to negotiate with Dump after they left the JCPOA deal.  The twitter post is distasteful and shows arrogance and love for bloodshed.  They are gloating about a historical event in pride.  I hope Kim Jong-un finds out about this tweet.  I wonder why he changed his position with Dump.

2:20

"Nobody has the guts again to attack us."

 

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13 hours ago, baradar_jackson said:

A lot can be gleaned from little things. Look at this post from the official twitter account of the US department of defence:

 

Now compare that image with the image the Shi'a idealize:

23 hours ago, repenter said:

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A bomber compared to a about-to-be-murdered grunt.

So who is going to "win" ?  The side that has people blown out of the air, or the side that has people blown off the ground ?

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9 minutes ago, hasanhh said:

Now compare that image with the image the Shi'a idealize:

A bomber compared to a about-to-be-murdered grunt.

So who is going to "win" ?  The side that has people blown out of the air, or the side that has people blown off the ground ?

oh yee of little faith

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1 hour ago, hasanhh said:

So who is going to "win" ?  The side that has people blown out of the air, or the side that has people blown off the ground ?

We can answer in kind. Thousands of missiles for thousand of sorties. Though, they wont be able to have any additional sorties beyond their initial. Thousands of sorties in short span of time means having air bases beyond Aircraft carriers. How can they when all their military bases within 2000km are destroyed within the first hour? We're not north Korea. 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/iranian-commander-100000-missiles-ready-to-annihilate-israel/

https://thediplomat.com/2013/06/irans-carrier-killer-missile-improves-accuracy/

https://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/iran-blows-up-gigantic-u-s-carrier-mock-up-during-nava-1688057598

It comes back to, if they could, they would have in the last 40 years. 

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4 minutes ago, Shiawarrior313 said:

We can answer in kind. Thousands of missiles for thousand of sorties. Though, they wont be able to have any additional sorties beyond their initial. Thousands of sorties in short span of time means having air bases beyond Aircraft carriers. How can they when all their military bases within 2000km are destroyed within the first hour? We're not north Korea. 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/iranian-commander-100000-missiles-ready-to-annihilate-israel/

https://thediplomat.com/2013/06/irans-carrier-killer-missile-improves-accuracy/

https://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/iran-blows-up-gigantic-u-s-carrier-mock-up-during-nava-1688057598

It comes back to, if they could, they would have in the last 40 years. 

:hahaha:  "l cannot express enough laughter."

Over a decade ago, after lRl fielded its rocket torpedoes, the USNavy changed their forecast from "a minimum of one carrier battle group" lost to "the fleet". By about three years later, due to 'changes', the loss prediction was returned to the former.

Also, to answer "how can they", remember that a B-52 can be anywhere in the World in 12 hours or less; as advertised in 2008 when Adm. Fallon resigned, everything is "already in their starting blocks" (plus things added since then) ready to excute "they are ants. When the time comes we will crush them" (Fallon's words)'; the GCC will comply with Washington's Wishes; lsrael is not a significant factor in any such invasion; . . .

plus, how does their 'plan' go when the missiles are suppressed and destroyed first?

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- السيد نصرالله: وجود أحمق في البيت الأبيض يعني بداية الفرج.

 

- الإمام الخامنئي: اليوم الذي ستصلون في القدس ليس ببعيد.

- السيد نصرالله: يوم الحرب الكبرى في المنطقة قادم، وهو اليوم الذي سنصلي فيه في القدس.

- الحاج قاسم سليماني لترامب : قد تبدأ أنت الحرب ولكن نحن من سينهيها.

- الشيخ بناهيان: كونوا مستعدين، إن شيئاً ما سيحدث عما قريب، أحدهم آتي. 

- الشيخ شفيق جرادي: إن الأرض تتحضر وتترونق وتزدهر لعرس استقبال القائد العظيم من آل محمد(عج).

Bismehe Ta3ala 

Assalam Alikum sister 

@Pearl178

If you have time, please translate 

Top leaders or sheikhs who commented on the next war.

M3 Salamah, Fe Amin Allah 

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Top 10 Countries that are impossible to Invade. 

Guess which number Iran is ? 

I think Trump should watch this video before he makes any decisions. FYI, this was made by  a secular Westerner

 

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12 hours ago, hasanhh said:

plus, how does their 'plan' go when the missiles are suppressed and destroyed first?

 How did destroying Hezbollahs missiles or suppressing them work out for them in 2006? The resistance movement knows how to keep its missiles safe and firing. Your ignorance and western worship is baffling, backed up by nothing but propaganda. How many sorties can the US do from beyond 2000+km? The US with all its support for Israel/Saudis and jihadi groups cant even defeat Iran's proxy influence, let alone taking on Iran.

 I suppose in your mind, Israel defeated Hezbollah in 3 days just as analysts predicted and is now enjoying the greater Israel dream. 

Iran: No need to extend 2,000km ballistic missile range

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/10/iran-extend-2000km-ballistic-missile-range-171031135651513.html

Again, if they could, they would have. Think about it for a bit and let it sink in.

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Its worth noting that US has around 50k+ personal in middle east, easily within missile range and capabilities of Iran. How much casualties can the US sustain? 

https://www.presstv.com/DetailFr/2018/01/30/550726/How-many-military-bases-US-has-in-Middle-East

This is also worth a read:

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War With Iran Won’t Be Iraq All Over Again. It’ll Be Much Worse.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/opinion-parsi-war-with-iran_us_5abd46fde4b055e50acc2e82

Here is a rand report, placing Iran among China and Russia as nations where military intervention is not feasible and "coercion" should be employed in dealing with them.

https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/research_reports/RR1000/RR1000/RAND_RR1000.pdf

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5 hours ago, Shiawarrior313 said:

How did destroying Hezbollahs missiles or suppressing them work out for them in 2006?

Be careful about 'tactical transplants'. 

The air raid on Taranto was not lost on the Japanese, but it was on the US. (Yeah, l know, over simplified.)

Weapons and how they are employed evolve constantly.

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Trump Goes full Caps lock on Iran | the daily show with with Trevor Noah

https://youtu.be/KZ755HYSGno

‏توییت ‎@Bisimchiimedia را بررسی کنید: https://twitter.com/Bisimchiimedia/status/1025610960357269504?s=09

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2 hours ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

Trump Goes full Caps lock on Iran | the daily show with with Trevor Noah

https://youtu.be/KZ755HYSGno

‏توییت ‎@Bisimchiimedia را بررسی کنید: https://twitter.com/Bisimchiimedia/status/1025610960357269504?s=09

These videos, as others, do not play in the US or l cannot upload the other.

So what does he say?

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9 hours ago, hasanhh said:

These videos, as others, do not play in the US or l cannot upload the other.

So what does he say?

These videos make a joke about trump as a sycophant boyfriend that his mode & taugh changes everyday 

because he brokes deal with Iran but now says he is ready for renegotiation without any prerequisites but now Iran rejects his offer , & leader of North Korea fooled  him in their negotiations & Iran must follow North Korea way.

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Germany On-board:  Another "the War is (almost) On'  media pump as Germany 'debates' military conscription.

Article:  https://www.dw.com/en/as-us-prepares-sanctions-iran-arrests-former-forex-bass-after-currency-collapse/a-44962768 

Video:  https://www.dw.com/en/iran-from-theocracy-to-regional-superpower/av-44954268   Notes:

For @shadow_of_light  At 8'15"  this is the kind of "in English" l referred to using.

Fundamental Cue:   18'   "Never Again"

24'    ???? Speaker being Unclear or Off-the-Wall 150,000 missiles in Yemen is a threat to KSA

Your Opinion: 39'45" that the lRGC will determine the 'next ruler of lran'.

 

OPINE:  The film begins with inaccurate and worn-out history "notes", but then continues as a more informative film, but not very declarative.

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IRGC confirms naval drill in Persian Gulf waters

http://en.abna24.com/news/iran/irgc-confirms-naval-drill-in-persian-gulf-waters_904373.html

August 5, 2018 - 7:42 PM News Code : 904373 Source : TasnimLink: 
IRGC confirms naval drill in Persian Gulf waters
 

The spokesman for the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) confirmed recent reports about the forces’ naval exercise in the Persian Gulf waters in southern Iran and said it was part of the IRGC’s routine drills. 

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Pronounced in shameless, self-righteous arrogance:

lran needs "Enormous Change"

https://www.npr.org/2018/08/06/635890908/pompeo-iran-needs-enormous-change-to-reverse-reimposed-u-s-sanctions 

Of course, this is said by an Ayatollah Hater who calls the mullahs "hypocritical holy men" (as if a mullah is the same as a pagan guru)

Deleted by NYT but also here: http://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2018/jul/23/pompeo-criticizes-iranian-ayatollahs-20/

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Just about like 2008

l was rummaging around some old notes and found some  lRl vs. USA material.

Comparing those with current news -a full decade later-  here is what l found

1]Then:  China and Japan buy/need a lot of lranian oil.

Now: China, Japan and Turkey need a lot of lranian oil and gas (Turkey and US currently at odds)

2]Then: lran imports gasoline from Singapore.

Now: lran used Singapore's banking services and built its own refinery since then.

3]Then: China is a major investor in lRl.

Now: China continues as an investor plus Belt & Road projects.

4]Then: The GCC was not happy about the Bush's activities.

Now: the Gulf countries are 'with' the US.

5]Then: lraq needs lRl stability influences

Now: lraq needs lRl stability influences.

6]Then: China and Japan said they will not go along with sanctions.

Now: China, Japan and lndia say they will not go along with sanctions.

7]Then: the US complains about lRl missiles and "going nuclear"

Now: the US complains about lRl missiles and "nuclear program".

NOTE: lRl has chosen missile program for the same reasons as the Soviets did in the 1950s ---they cannot expect to compete with American aircraft technology and ground costs.

8] Then: lRl 'turned its attention to Central Asia'

Now: With those relationships already in place, as a DeutscheWelle guest commentator said, lRl "is acting like the adult in the room" and also reaching out to the EU.

9] Then: the Bushies wanted 'regime change'

Now:  apparently, 'regime change' is not on the American agenda according to John Bolton and an uncited BBC "source".

10] Then: Defense Secretary Gates said a war with lRl will be "disastrous". (Compare with the Fallon remarks above -ed.)

Now:  "We just lost a carrier battle group" --USNavy assessment after revising its initial oplan in the last few years.

 

Proposal:  Trump said he wants to negotiate. OK. Here is "How":

Do it on Twitter. The Donald likes that format, the lranians use it (l heard) (or can get it) and this way everyone can keep abreast and informed about the negotiations.

l personally will like to read these.

 

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On 8/5/2018 at 7:03 AM, Ashvazdanghe said:

These videos make a joke about trump as a sycophant boyfriend that his mode & taugh changes everyday 

because he brokes deal with Iran but now says he is ready for renegotiation without any prerequisites but now Iran rejects his offer , & leader of North Korea fooled  him in their negotiations & Iran must follow North Korea way.

What everyone needs to understand is that Trump's actions vis a via Iran are dictated to him by Israel and Netanyahu. These are not his own thoughts. Probably he, himself, doesn't care at all about Iran one way or another. So this whole thing with North Korea and now the offer of negotiations with Iran is most likely a trap, and the leadership in Iran has already figured this out. 

The thing with North Korea, and now letting them get away with still developing nuclear weapons, is a false signal to Iran that, 'If you negotiate with us, we will overlook your nuclear activities and your economy will improve, like what is happening with North Koread'. But Iran is not North Korea. North Korea is not a strategic threat to Israel, so they don't care much what they do. Iran is a threat to the Zionists. So Israel is hoping Iran will 'take the bait' and negotiate directly with the US. Then they will have an excuse for Trump to say 'Iran violated a 'verbal' agreement they had with me', and noone knows what that verbal agreement is, but it will give him an excuse to rally his supporters against Iran. So the Zionists are using North Korea to set up Iran. That is why I think it is wise for Iran not to negotiate or have any sort of contact with Trump the Zionists who are pushing him. If they talk, they are not talking in good faith. They are only talking with the end goal to rally people against Iran. That should be clear by now. 

Also, Pompeo already stated clearly that sanctions will not be lifted unless Iran let's the US dictate their foreign policy, as it was done under Shah(la). I don't think Iran is willing to do this. So there's no point in talking. 

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On 7/30/2018 at 9:24 PM, Abu Hadi said:

Top 10 Countries that are impossible to Invade. 

Guess which number Iran is ? 

I think Trump should watch this video before he makes any decisions. FYI, this was made by  a secular Westerner

 

Didn't watch but hopefully that video mentions the Millennium Challenge

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Challenge_2002

tldr; US Navy holds drill between "Blue and Red", Red being obviously Iran. The first day the "Red team" destroyed 16 Vessels including an Aircraft Carrier with a kill count of something like 20,000 sailors. So what do they do? They neuter the "Red team" with all these conditions in order to assure a Blue team victory

"After the war game was restarted, its participants were forced to follow a script drafted to ensure a Blue Force victory. Among other rules imposed by this script, Red Force was ordered to turn on their anti-aircraft radar in order for them to be destroyed, and was not allowed to shoot down any of the aircraft bringing Blue Force troops ashore.[2] Van Riper also claimed that exercise officials denied him the opportunity to use his own tactics and ideas against Blue Force, and that they also ordered Red Force not to use certain weapons systems against Blue Force and even ordered the location of Red Force units to be revealed.[3]"

Literally destroyed in their own challenge so they neuter the red team and make certain conditions to ensure their own victory and validate themselves.

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War on Iran began with all cap tweet 

https://youtu.be/XBxFW2dnvuY

New sanctions kick in Trump declares (trade)  war on Iran ... and EU!

https://youtu.be/Y0bgIZuxwdI

Edited by Ashvazdanghe

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My theory is that Imam Mahdi (ATFS) is providing his guidance to the Islamic Republic and its leaders, they may make mistakes as they are human, but their aims are true.

No other country on earth has so many rich and powerful blood thirsty countries frothing at the mouth to attack and destroy economically, socially, militarily and politically.

 

An article by an Emirati writer:

■ Saudi Arabia paid 54 billion dollars to overthrow Saddam Hussein 


■ Iraq became an ally of Iran 


■ A few years later
Saudi Arabia paid billions of dollars to bring down the Lebanese Hezbollah.


■ Three quarters of Lebanon became an ally of Iran.


■ Saudi Arabia paid billions to overthrow Erdogan


■ Turkey became an ally of Iran.


■ Saudi Arabia paid billions against plot on Qatar 


■ Qatar turned to Iran 


■ Saudi Arabia paid billions to drop the supporters of God in Yemen


■ Three quarters of Yemen became an ally of Iran 


■ Saudi Arabia paid billions to America to drop the agreement on the Iranian nuclear file  ■ European countries became an ally of Iran

■ Easy to teach animals Piano playing and teach birds to speak but difficult to teach some Arabs politics.

Somebody on the Iranian side knows 4-D chess and are amazing at it.

Now Saudi Arabia is giving billions to Israel and the USA to attack Iran, very soon they will see the outcome of that as well!!

and now Saudis are on the verge of bankruptcy. 

Makr wa Makr-Ullah , inallah Kharul Makayreen. 

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My theory is that Imam Mahdi (ATFS) is providing his guidance to the Islamic Republic and its leaders, they may make mistakes as they are human, but their aims are true.

No other country on earth has so many rich and powerful blood thirsty countries frothing at the mouth to attack and destroy economically, socially, militarily and politically.

 

Here is actual Military Analyst giving his analysis of a Iran vs Anglo-zionist conflict could look like.

https://thesaker.is/anglozionist-attack-options-against-iran/

It was truly eye opening and very informative. 

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To all my doom/gloom brothers and sisters, understand that there is massive western propaganda to make the USA seem invincible, and the Pentagon pays billions of dollars to convince the world of that finality ; thru movies, think tanks, and fake news.

please see pentagon sponsored movies: 

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-04/heres-410-movies-made-under-direct-influence-and-supervision-department-defense

The reality is quite different. 

Remember back to the early phases of the afghan war, i was in the USA and was amazed there were thousands of sorties and still the US troops did very little other than egg afghan militias to attack the Taliban. In fact  one the strategic targets had been hit, there were forced start hitting wedding parties and other soft targets to inflict pain. 

Similarly in Iraq, after military and other high value tragets had been destroyed, they were again forced to bomb civilians and civilian infrastructure again to inflict pain. They lost, and lost quite badly...whenever there was prolonged resistance and guerilla tactics. 

The loss of life while tragic and heart breaking, is only depressing if we have a focused worldly calculus, and don't believe in the Hussaini mission and a redefining of success. 

US troops are not made to fight long wars, they like shock and awe and lightning quick battles, anything long and drawn out is usually a failure, and then they try another "surge" to win again. 

I will let a US Marine Military intelligence officer whose predictions on Afghanistan and Iraq were dead on, explain it again. ( He was so accurate that trumped up charges were levelled at him to silence him)

https://www.globalresearch.ca/three-reasons-why-fire-and-fury-wont-work-with-iran/5649870

Have faith in Allah, the prophet and his progeny and help from our hidden saviour.

There have been multiple times in history where a numerically superior and militarily superior force lost to a less opponent or ore correctly failed to defeat, which considering the odds is a definite win. 

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