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hasanhh

lRl vs. USA

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l was reading the "demonstrations in lran" thread and decided to do some searching.

lMO, 90+% of the 'material' on the Net is hype and garbage.

So why is the US so adamant about lRl ?

As a preface, about 20 years ago some nutcase perpetrated a 'terrorist' attack in Belgium. A radio commentator asked, "Why Belgium? What do Belgians do? Belg?"

Similarly here. What do the lranians do?

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Well it mainly has to do with Iran's approach towards Israel and the Gulf States. They are both red lines to Washington and therefore Iran is seen as an expansionist threat.

Since the revolution, Iran has been calling for the downing of "corrupt and oppressive" regimes, and that in turn caused a backlash from the Gulf States against Iran.

There may also be economic interests from American banks, American oil companies and the military industrial complex that likes to cause fear and paranoia about Iran so that it can sell its weapons.

But Iran has never been consistent in its anti-US policy, as brother @Abu Hadi tried to claim. If it did it wouldn't have been on America's side in invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq. When there is mutual interest, they will collaborate.

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7 hours ago, Hameedeh said:

The topic title should be USA vs Iran. :shifty: They are the ones putting debilitating sanctions on Iran.

Hmmmmm ... Quranically lncorrect

Ayats 42:39-42  

So, since lRl is defending itself against shameless, self-righteous, threatening, evilgelical arrogance with Congressionally funded subversive activities; l believe my choice of title is 'correct', as Allah-s.w.t. knows best.

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The main reason is Iran's defiance to US domination.  This serves as an example for other nations and it cannot be tolerated.  Iran doesn't pose a major threat to US or Israel in the sense they publicy complain about.  No one in Israel or Washington actually thinks Iran would ever attack them but the threat of a good example is a real one.

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On 6/26/2018 at 11:40 PM, hasanhh said:

l was reading the "demonstrations in lran" thread and decided to do some searching.

lMO, 90+% of the 'material' on the Net is hype and garbage.

So why is the US so adamant about lRl ?

As a preface, about 20 years ago some nutcase perpetrated a 'terrorist' attack in Belgium. A radio commentator asked, "Why Belgium? What do Belgians do? Belg?"

Similarly here. What do the lranians do?

it really surprises me you still dont know...

 

its simple.. Iran supports Palestine, hizbullah and a continued threat to israel

as long as they are a resistance they are an enemy

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45 minutes ago, abuhaydar said:

it really surprises me you still dont know...

 

its simple.. Iran supports Palestine, hizbullah and a continued threat to israel

as long as they are a resistance they are an enemy

Thirty and forty years ago, this countering-policy attempted to balance the US' forced creation of the GCC.

Then 20+ years ago, this support filled a vacuum left by the nefarious, ideological exclusion by the US of other groups.

Oversimplified l know.

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The US anti-Iran rhetoric is driven by the two strongest lobbying groups in the US - namely Israel (AIPAC) and Saudi.

That is the simplest explanation. There is obviously a lot more too it.

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Zionism is the biggest cancer of the world, I believe.
Shia are the most important enemy of the Zionists, the evil rulers of the world in this time.
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11 hours ago, abuhaydar said:

it really surprises me you still dont know...

 

its simple.. Iran supports Palestine, hizbullah and a continued threat to israel

as long as they are a resistance they are an enemy

Israel but it is not only Israel which is controlled by the Zionist cancer, but (almost) all capitals of the world.
Financial, Media, Politics, Academia.
I don't think we should devote our lifes to fight against such an evil empire as our only main goal. But we should realize such facts, especially in regards to our Imam (AJTF)

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22July18

lRGC Soldiers Killed Along lraqi Border

 

https://www.dw.com/en/iranian-revolutionary-guard-soldiers-killed-in-attack-along-iraqi-border/a-44772872 

The article says that lRl and lraq have failed to coordinate border security.

OPINE: l would not wait on lraq. lRl can set up its own Audio-Visual Surveillance -as any EW capability lRl has can be easily manipulated by the US- and isolated Area Denial operations. The border is porous because any patrol can be seen and monitored and infiltrators can be sent a "coast is clear" at any appropriate time.

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Iran's biggest problem is that Israel and Saudi consider Iran to be their enemy.

Israel because Iran stands up to it.

Saudi because of the shia thing and the Arab vs. Ajam thing.

Saudi and Israel happen to have the 2 strongest lobbying groups in the US. 

Unfortunately US domestic and foreign policy is dictated by lobbying groups and the Saudi+Israel lobby push heavily against Iran.

That is the main problem.

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https://twitter.com/the_ruhi/status/1021090381570760704?s=21

 

https://twitter.com/iran/status/1021109317037182981?s=21

 

#StopMeddlingInIran

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Imam Khamenei: Talks with US 'useless' but should continue with EU

http://en.abna24.com/news/iran/imam-khamenei-talks-with-us-useless-but-should-continue-with-eu_902494.html

July 21, 2018 - 4:30 PM News Code : 902494 Source : PressTVLink: 
Imam Khamenei: Talks with US 'useless' but should continue with EU
 

Leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei says talks with the US are "useless," adding while negotiations with the Europeans should continue, Iran should not count much on their package of proposals. 

(AhlulBayt News Agency) - Leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei says talks with the US are "useless," adding while negotiations with the Europeans should continue, Iran should not count much on their package of proposals. 

Pres. Rouhani: Intimidation makes us more united; we'll definitely defeat US

 

July 22, 2018 - 4:11 PM News Code : 902617 Source : President.irLink: 
Pres. Rouhani: Intimidation makes us more united; we'll definitely defeat US
 

President of the Islamic Republic of Iran Dr Hassan Rouhani made explicit remarks against Trump at the meeting of the heads of Iranian missions abroad, saying: "Iran's power is deterrent and we have no fight or war with anybody but the enemies must understand well that war with Iran is the mother of all wars and peace with Iran is the mother of all peace. We have never been intimidated and will respond threat with threat". 

http://en.abna24.com/news/iran/pres-rouhani-intimidation-makes-us-more-united-well-definitely-defeat-us_902617.html

US pressures make Iranian nation more united: Judiciary Chief

July 22, 2018 - 6:23 PM News Code : 902639 Source : tasnimLink: 
US pressures make Iranian nation more united: Judiciary Chief
 

Iranian Judiciary Chief Ayatollah Sadeq Amoli Larijani praised President Hassan Rouhani for his remarks on Sunday about US hostilities, and said Washington’s pressures against Tehran have strengthened the Iranian nation’s unity. 

(AhlulBayt News Agency) - Iranian Judiciary Chief Ayatollah Sadeq Amoli Larijani praised President Hassan Rouhani for his remarks on Sunday about US hostilities, and said Washington’s pressures against Tehran have strengthened the Iranian nation’s unity. 

http://en.abna24.com/news/iran/us-pressures-make-iranian-nation-more-united-judiciary-chief_902639.html

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It makes me very nervous that this kind of inflammatory rhetoric is being used, especially by Trump. He needs to stay off social media. 

(Rouhani needs to tone it back as well)

Obviously, we all know that Israel wants  a conflict, but Iran cannot proceed recklessly here, and make the world think it has imperialist objectives in the Middle East (taking control of Yemen for instance). 

 

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@Silas

Poor Yemen, how is Iran taking over it?

What evidence do you have?  The people defending Yemen are Yemenis, not Iranians.

The crap is going to hit the fan real soon.  Dump can't intimidate Iran. 

Iran has always been there for the moustad3feen downtrodden people.  Speaks out against injustices in Palestine, South Africa, the Kurds of Iraq.

Everyday it is something new with Dump, I think this is going to be the opportunity where the world will be introduced to Shia Islam and Imam Mahdi by the foolishness of this clown.

Al Qaed was right, we are happy to see the hypocrisy mask finally removed and showing the world how truly America is.

Let them make one false move and see what is going to come at them.

Khaybar Khaybar ya Kufar Jaish Mohammad wa 3li al itisaar.

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Iran has been accused of arming the Houthi rebels in Yemen, and engaging in a proxy-war against Saudi Arabia (just as it has been accused of doing the same with Hezbollah against Israel)

This is a very dangerous game that no nation should be engaged in, including the US. 

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Ok, then you said SA, who is funding them with arms.  I mean America is in every single conflict when it comes to arming any group with military weapons.  

Hundreds of thousands of Yemeni children have died and no one cares because they are not blonde and blue eyed.

Palestines were back in the limelight for a few days because Ahed al Tamami had the long curly blonde hair and blue eyes.  That's what roles in the media.   Not brown and black children.

They have every right to defend themselves.  This post is not directly at you @Silas this is for all the guests that come on here and read and want to know the other side of the story.

America has so much blood on her hands.  What a disgraceful country.

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36 minutes ago, Silas said:

Iran has been accused of arming the Houthi rebels in Yemen, and engaging in a proxy-war against Saudi Arabia (just as it has been accused of doing the same with Hezbollah against Israel)

The us media &Saudis say it for a long time but they can't do anything because they knowere that their claims are baseless &whiteout evidence even USA  &Israel couldn't prove anything by bringing remaimings of Yemenian missiles & Hezbollah Dromessage ,they just make them a joke for all of the world:grin:

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Laayla: I think everyone here, including myself, is completely against US proxy wars, interventionism, etc. 

The problem with Iran engaging in similar behavior is that it does not have the military, resources, or international support to do it, and it gives other nations a pretense, or excuse, to strike in retaliation.

Iran isn't going to defeat the US in some war --it has a 14 billion dollar military budget. The US has a 660 billion dollar military budget, countless more planes and ships, more troops, and nukes.

Any talk of war with the US is just craziness. How many people in Iran would want that? I suspect very few.

I support normalizing relations with Iran, lifting the sanctions, etc., but Iran needs to make some concessions as well--war would be a total disaster, and would greatly strengthen the position of Israel and Saudi Arabia.

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4 hours ago, shiasoldier786 said:

Anyone see Trumps tweet to Rouhan

Yeah ,and currently iranians from all groups even anti Regime groups except MEK are very active for joking him with posting images of Captured American Navy's & trending #StopMeddlingInIran in twitter & Instagram 

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3 minutes ago, Silas said:

support normalizing relations with Iran, lifting the sanctions, etc., but Iran needs to make some concessions as well

Thanks ,but Trump destroyed everything, we don't war with any country unless they attack us in recent days a kurdish separatist group in the name of Pejak that supports by USA martyred 11 SUNNI &shia soldiers in Iranian borders

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14 hours ago, Silas said:

Laayla: I think everyone here, including myself, is completely against US proxy wars, interventionism, etc. 

The problem with Iran engaging in similar behavior is that it does not have the military, resources, or international support to do it, and it gives other nations a pretense, or excuse, to strike in retaliation.

Iran isn't going to defeat the US in some war --it has a 14 billion dollar military budget. The US has a 660 billion dollar military budget, countless more planes and ships, more troops, and nukes.

Any talk of war with the US is just craziness. How many people in Iran would want that? I suspect very few.

I support normalizing relations with Iran, lifting the sanctions, etc., but Iran needs to make some concessions as well--war would be a total disaster, and would greatly strengthen the position of Israel and Saudi Arabia.

I see, you look at figures.  But I look at eman, faith.

Read about the Battle of Badr.

Read about the July war of 2006

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America cannot do a damn thing against us- Imam Khomeini 

It was true than, and it is true now.

Silas- the US may be spending hundreds of billions on their military- yet they still havent even been able to defeat a few thousand ill armed Taliban fighters in Afganistan after 17 years. They are cowards.

What did they do after Iran took over the US embassy in 79? Nothing. What did they do after the barracks explosion in Lebanon? Nothing 

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US administration only understands language of force: Iranian DM

http://en.abna24.com/news/iran/us-administration-only-understands-language-of-force-iranian-dm_902782.html

July 23, 2018 - 6:38 PM News Code : 902782 Source : FNALink: 
US administration only understands language of force: Iranian DM
 

Iranian Defense Minister Brigadier General Amir Hatami blasted US President Donald Trump administration's threats and pressures against Iran, stressing that the White House just understands the language of force.
 

AhlulBayt News Agency (ABNA): Iranian Defense Minister Brigadier General Amir Hatami blasted US President Donald Trump administration's threats and pressures against Iran, stressing that the White House just understands the language of force.

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On ‎7‎/‎23‎/‎2018 at 8:19 AM, shiasoldier786 said:

Anyone see Trumps tweet to Rouhani 

 

ln a speech before the VFW Convention Tuesday, the 24th, Trump "walked this back".  https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/24/trump-iran-deal-737313 

On ‎7‎/‎23‎/‎2018 at 11:42 AM, Silas said:

Iran has been accused of arming the Houthi rebels in Yemen, and engaging in a proxy-war against Saudi Arabia (just as it has been accused of doing the same with Hezbollah against Israel)

This is a very dangerous game that no nation should be engaged in, including the US. 

The Houthis captured their weapons and missiles in their initial advance towards Aden. See American news reports. All the garbage about lranian arming the Houthis was Big Mother lying again.

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2 hours ago, hasanhh said:

Trump "walked this back"

Salam it because both Iranian & Anti trump Americans bombards his tweeter account after Sunday , Trump & his group promised to AIPAC & Israel to overthrown Iran Regime till end July but they failed until now so they expand it to the end of summer  , if Iran Regime can stand until end of summer they will lose their credit from Isreal .

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Pres. Rouhani: US baseless threats not worthy of response

July 25, 2018 - 4:37 PM News Code : 903016 Source : President.irLink: 
Pres. Rouhani: US baseless threats not worthy of response
 

President Rouhani emphasised that empty, baseless threats of some rulers in the United States are not worth responding, and added: "We must respond to them in action". 

AhlulBayt News Agency (ABNA):President Rouhani emphasised that empty, baseless threats of some rulers in the United States are not worth responding, and added: "We must respond to them in action". 

http://en.abna24.com/news/iran/pres-rouhani-us-baseless-threats-not-worthy-of-response_903016.html

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