Man commits suicide inside Grand Mosque of Mecca

[Beyond]

https://www.dailysabah.com/mideast/2018/06/09/man-commits-suicide-inside-grand-mosque-of-mecca-next-to-kaaba

[realizm]

I am not even surprised the man was french. 

[notme]

That's very strange, but it seems suicide is all the rage these days. I wonder what mental illness the poor man suffered, that this seemed a good idea at the time. 

[Dreamcatcher]

4 hours ago, realizm said:

I am not even surprised the man was french.  

Why? Are the French more suicidal than other nationalities?

[realizm]

20 hours ago, Dreamcatcher said:

Why? Are the French more suicidal than other nationalities?

He was a french 26 year old convert.

Many youngsters are confused and mislead here. 

[notme]

1 hour ago, realizm said:

He was a french 26 year old convert.

Many youngsters are confused and mislead here. 

26 years old is not a youngster! He clearly was confused and misled though. I think the question was why French more than others.

[Chaotic Muslem]

USA suicide:

https://www.cdc.gov/vitalsigns/suicide/index.html

France suicide:

https://www.thelocal.fr/20180206/in-france-a-person-commits-suicide-every-hour-so-what-needs-to-be-done

Both countries re plagued with the ill mental health of its citizens. It is still very shocking that he decided to commit suicide in holy mosque in holy month. As if he is testifying that he disbelieve in God's mercy and God's might and power to change situations. 

I am not underestimating the amount of pressure that was upon the man that lead to such fate, on the contrary, I am saying that if we do not stick togather with those going under stressful times, gave them ears at least, we are pushing them to the despair ourselves.

[Ashvazdanghe]

On 6/10/2018 at 12:32 PM, Chaotic Muslem said:

I am not underestimating the amount of pressure that was upon the man that lead to such fate, on the contrary, I am saying that if we do not stick togather with those going under stressful times, gave them ears at least, we are pushing them to the despair ourselves.

Some Sunni groups think if they die in anyway inside holy mosque of Mecca will go to Paradise probably he thought the same & killed himself for a one way ticket to paradise.

[realizm]

On 6/10/2018 at 11:21 AM, notme said:

26 years old is not a youngster! He clearly was confused and misled though. I think the question was why French more than others.

I might not get the meaning of youngster correctly, to me it is around 20, probably his age when he 'converted'.

[ali_fatheroforphans]

We need to talk to people more. Imagine if someone welcomed this guy (not saying that no one did), and maybe it could of prevented him committing suicide. Our words have the power to heal people. We should always be nice to others - we never know who will commit suicide. 

[Ashvazdanghe]

On 6/10/2018 at 7:39 PM, ali_fatheroforphans said:

We need to talk to people more. Imagine if someone welcomed this guy (not saying that no one did), and maybe it could of prevented him committing suicide. Our words have the power to heal people. We should always be nice to others - we never know who will commit suicide. 

A number of East Asian Muslims believe that death in Mecca is something that brings man close to his Lord.

According to Saudi security officials, the site of the incident is immediately surrounded by the Red Crescent so that they can save the person, but the person who is acting is immediately dead.

The suicide operation was carried out yesterday by one of the Muslims in East Asia. The exact cause of suicide has not been determined, but some East Asian Muslims believe that death in Sacred Mecca and Shrine Sharif is something that brings man closer to the Lord and causes the savior and their forgiveness.

http://sana.af/other/انتحار-و-خودکشی-در-خانه-خدا/

[Ashvazdanghe]

Mourning Iraqi father jumps to his death during Hajj

August 25-2018     01:36 PM

From KSA News sources it claimed as a suicide but some people said that he killed by a Wahhabi because of saying 'Labbayk Ya Hussain ' that the Wahhabi throw him down from up floor which caused his death Allah knows best.

A still taken from video, shot at the scene of the incident, Mecca, Aug. 24, 2018. (Photo: Al Arabiya)

The death of two Iraqi pilgrims in the Holy Land

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5/8/2018 17:33:00

ShareThe Iraqi Haj mission announced on Sunday the death of a pilgrim from the holy province of Kerbala and a pilgrim from the province of Kirkuk in Mecca.

https://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/saudi-arabia/iraqi-pilgrim-commits-suicide-in-grand-mosque-1.2270489

https://www.pukmedia.com/EN/EN_Direje.aspx?Jimare=44000

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/features/2018/08/25/This-is-why-Iraqi-pilgrim-committed-suicide-in-Mecca.html

http://www.kurdistan24.net/en/news/9132e693-dca5-4f4d-a9a5-186d1d6bda51

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1787684/9-iraqi-pilgrim-commits-suicide-makkahs-grand-mosque/

[Zulfiqar1472]

There are previous cases of sucide in Makkah and are of similar nature.

Lanat Allah ala Adae Ajmaeen 

[Ashvazdanghe]

According to local media, Haidari was repeating in high tone a prayer known among the Shiites, mentioning in it the name of Iraqi religious leader Muqtada al-Sadr before he committed suicide, throwing himself from the rooftop to the ground floor of the Grand Mosque.

http://article19.ma/en/index.php/2018/08/26/details-emerge-following-suicide-of-iraqi-hajj-pilgrim-in-mecca-video/

[Carlzone]

1 hour ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

According to local media, Haidari was repeating in high tone a prayer known among the Shiites, mentioning in it the name of Iraqi religious leader Muqtada al-Sadr before he committed suicide, throwing himself from the rooftop to the ground floor of the Grand Mosque.

http://article19.ma/en/index.php/2018/08/26/details-emerge-following-suicide-of-iraqi-hajj-pilgrim-in-mecca-video/

Did he really commit suicide or was he killed? 

I don't believe any unreliable media. 

To me it seems unlikely that one would commit suicide in Mecka when you are taking care of your own mother. 

Why didn't he kill himself earlier when his son died? The worst period is immediately when someone dies, not months afterwards. Why kill himself in Mecka? Why not in Iraq? 

I'm not saying he didn't commit suicide, but things are not crystal clear here.