Shia performs Salah on fire (Absurd and shocking)

[Intellectual Resistance]

As if we couldn't get more bizarre in what we do. Where is this and does anyone know why they are doing this?

[Mod Note: The video is from an anti-Shia youtube channel.]

Personal note: I was not aware the youtube channel was 'anti-Shia' this just came up when i was also browsing self-mutilation videos of Shias on Laylatul Qadr and other bizarre practises.Not surprising enemies of Shias would want to spread these despicable acts.

Edited June 8, 2018 by Hameedeh
Mod Note

[Ashvazdanghe]

34 minutes ago, Intellectual Resistance said:

As if we couldn't get more bizarre in what we do. Where is this and does anyone know why they are doing this?

This is not from any shia teachings , this is mostly infected by Hinduism .

Edited June 7, 2018 by Hameedeh
Long quote shortened in length.

[Intellectual Resistance]

2 minutes ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

This is not from any shia teachings , this is mostly infected by Hinduism .

How shocking. Are you surprised with the amount of sheer bizarre stupidity among Shias no-one takes us seriously?

[Ashvazdanghe]

2 minutes ago, Intellectual Resistance said:

How shocking. Are you surprised with the amount of sheer bizarre stupidity among Shias no-one takes us seriously?

Somehow it is mainly supports by Britain & Shirazi cult to make a bad & stupid image from Shia islam.

[Intellectual Resistance]

9 minutes ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

Somehow it is mainly supports by Britain & Shirazi cult to make a bad & stupid image from Shia islam.

I think also brother , stupidity and superstition exists among some Shias also. We are becoming a laughing stock. 

[786:)]

^^ the kinds of shia the video shows is what constitutes the majority of my community. Unfortunately, the culprit is the azadari subculture. The culture preaches that there is "no limitations in azadari". Such acts are a byproduct of that delusional belief.

[Intellectual Resistance]

2 minutes ago, 786:) said:

^^ the kinds of shia the video shows is what constitutes the majority of my community. Unfortunately, the culprit is the azadari subculture. The culture preaches that there is "no limitations in azadari". Such acts are a byproduct of that delusional belief.

My goodness. No wonder you're so disgusted and pushed to go onto - as i've said before, a bit too opposite- direction. I would not attend that centre and would go to another one that was Shia, else avoid it or leave early before the barbaric rituals started.

Have you ever seen someone praying on fire? 

Edited June 7, 2018 by Intellectual Resistance

[Haji 2003]

31 minutes ago, Intellectual Resistance said:

How shocking. Are you surprised with the amount of sheer bizarre stupidity among Shias no-one takes us seriously?

You can find misplaced piety everywhere, amongst Shias, Sunnis, amongst people of other religions and also atheists.

Your statement suggests that Shias have some sort of monopoly in this type of behaviour and that could perhaps be described as a 'misplaced generalisation'.

[Intellectual Resistance]

5 minutes ago, Haji 2003 said:

You can find misplaced piety everywhere, amongst Shias, Sunnis, amongst people of other religions and also atheists.

Your statement suggests that Shias have some sort of monopoly in this type of behaviour and that could perhaps be described as a 'misplaced generalisation'.

Between Shias and Sunnis, there is little doubt which group has within them the most bizarre customs. Self mutilation of babies, massive blades cutting into scalps and backs, walking on coal, praying on fire, rolling around and covering ones whole body in very thick mud.  One needs only google image 'Sunni Muslims' and 'Shia Muslims' before delving into their own research. We even beaten Christians to it, barring the strange types who self-harm. 

Atheists are lost, and even they are making fun of our self-mutilation rituals, which also gets universal disgust from Sunnis and most Christians. 

All i can say is, i take this very personally and it hurts and we more than most other groups are a universal laughing stock. 

Edited June 7, 2018 by Intellectual Resistance

[Sumerian]

3 hours ago, Intellectual Resistance said:

Between Shias and Sunnis, there is little doubt which group has within them the most bizarre customs. Self mutilation of babies, massive blades cutting into scalps and backs, walking on coal, praying on fire, rolling around and covering ones whole body in very thick mud.  One needs only google image 'Sunni Muslims' and 'Shia Muslims' before delving into their own research. We even beaten Christians to it, barring the strange types who self-harm. 

Atheists are lost, and even they are making fun of our self-mutilation rituals, which also gets universal disgust from Sunnis and most Christians. 

All i can say is, i take this very personally and it hurts and we more than most other groups are a universal laughing stock.  

I'd say the world is more concerned with "Sunni bizarre acts" than Shi'i ones. Take a look at the Middle East.

[Ahmed_516478]

What's the problem with this exactly? I mean I find it very odd and I personally wouldn't do something like this. Are you saying its haram? If so according to which maraji'? You need to stop caring so much about what kuffar and nawasib think of us, that's a sign of an inferiority complex. Dare I say you need a little bit of an American attitude. 

[Intellectual Resistance]

4 minutes ago, Sumerian said:

I'd say the world is more concerned with "Sunni bizarre acts" than Shi'i ones. Take a look at the Middle East.

Suicide bombing is totally different example. It's performed by 0.0001 percent if not less, of Sunnis and condemned by all their sects whole heartedly. You can't say the same about bizarre Shia rituals which are associated as a religious practise of the sect. 

[Intellectual Resistance]

5 minutes ago, Shi3i_jadeed said:

What's the problem with this exactly? I mean I find it very odd and I personally wouldn't do something like this. Are you saying its haram? If so according to which maraji'? You need to stop caring so much about what kuffar and nawasib think of us, that's a sign of an inferiority complex. Dare I say you need a little bit of an American attitude. 

Brother, i'm showing an inferiority complex by stating some acts are so far from rational behaviour, against our Fitrah in reason and sense, and by virtue of the act in and of itself brings ridicule to the Madhab in a manner which evokes universal disgust from Shia and non-Shia alike? It might be halal to bark like dogs and crawl around shrines as some do, but is that how we carry ourselves out as rational human beings?

Edited June 7, 2018 by Intellectual Resistance

[786:)]

24 minutes ago, Intellectual Resistance said:

My goodness. No wonder you're so disgusted and pushed to go onto - as i've said before, a bit too opposite- direction. I would not attend that centre and would go to another one that was Shia, else avoid it or leave early before the barbaric rituals started.

Have you ever seen someone praying on fire? 

I have not seen it personally, but I know of people who have performed this act in my community. Most of the Urdu centers here are azadari-heavy. Also, I have pressure from my parents to attend.

[Ahmed_516478]

1 minute ago, Intellectual Resistance said:

Brother, i'm showing an inferiority complex by stating some acts are so far from rational behaviour, against our Fitrah in reason and sense, and by virtue of the act in and of itself brings ridicule to the Madhab in a manner which evokes universal disgust from Shia and non-Shia alike? It might be halal to bark like dogs and crawl around shrines as some do, but is that how we carry ourselves out as rational human beings?

"...against our fitra in reason and sense..." doesn't really mean anything. Its just saying you don't like it. I wouldn't carry myself like that but so what? I said its a sign of an inferiority complex because this isn't the first time you go on about how this will make us look bad to others, like we have to conform our behaviors to what other people want. Look westerners see Islam itself as inherently disgusting just read about Islamic penal codes and a westerner will tell you that Islam is a totally barbaric religion. Like how adulterers are pelted with stones until they die and active homosexuals are killed according to the shariah, good luck getting any westerner to accept that isn't barbaric. I could go on and on about aspects of Islam non-Muslims will see as barbaric or disgusting.

[786:)]

16 minutes ago, Intellectual Resistance said:

Brother, i'm showing an inferiority complex by stating some acts are so far from rational behaviour, against our Fitrah in reason and sense, and by virtue of the act in and of itself brings ridicule to the Madhab in a manner which evokes universal disgust from Shia and non-Shia alike? It might be halal to bark like dogs and crawl around shrines as some do, but is that how we carry ourselves out as rational human beings?

People will defend these irrational acts simply because they fall under the category of "azadari". That word is the magic phrase to turn off everyone's brains. You see how the same people who find taraweeh to be from the devil (essentially a systematic approach to completing the Quran in the Holy Month) defend praying salah on fire.

This is the world we live in today...haha

[Reza]

1 hour ago, Intellectual Resistance said:

when i was also browsing self-mutilation videos of Shias on Laylatul Qadr and other bizarre practises.

God almighty...

[Intellectual Resistance]

22 minutes ago, Reza said:

God almighty...

It was a brief browsing to see what goes on in the 21st Night (martyrdom of Ali (as)). I wanted to know how depraved some communities can get, that they can perform such barbaric acts in these holy nights. You would think they would see sense. I take people hijacking my Madhab very personally. 

Edited June 7, 2018 by Intellectual Resistance

[Intellectual Resistance]

26 minutes ago, 786:) said:

People will defend these irrational acts simply because they fall under the category of "azadari". That word is the magic phrase to turn off everyone's brains. You see how the same people who find taraweeh to be from the devil (essentially a systematic approach to completing the Quran in the Holy Month) defend praying salah on fire.

This is the world we live in today...haha

I've been attacked and no-doubt will be attacked for this thread. But to speak out against this stupidity for the sake of Allah and the purity of message of Muhammed and ale Muhammed, i'll take it. They can rain down their personal attacks if they wish on me. This is bigger than you, me or anyone else. 

[Hameedeh]

According to Shaikh Murtaza Ansari & Shaikh Suduq, the best aamaal during this night is to acquire religious knowledge. 

[starlight]

1 hour ago, Intellectual Resistance said:

I was also browsing self-mutilation videos of Shias on Laylatul Qadr

So what's next ? 

Just curious,did you pre plan all this for the night of 23rd or these just descended upon you today?

[Intellectual Resistance]

1 hour ago, starlight said:

So what's next ? 

Just curious,did you pre plan all this for the night of 23rd or these just descended upon you today?

Think better of your brother. I am off to perform A'mals, and won't be on tonight. This was an incidental finding. 

Your issue should be with the Shias dragging the name of your Madhab through mud by acting in this manner and not me for bringing it to your attention. 

[Intellectual Resistance]

2 minutes ago, Hameedeh said:

According to Shaikh Murtaza Ansari & Shaikh Suduq, the best aamaal during this night is to acquire religious knowledge. 

Indeed. The night has just descended upon us here and i will not be responding until tomorrow. I recommend all users focus on what is more important this night and refrain from even being on Shiachat. 

[Haji 2003]

1 hour ago, Intellectual Resistance said:

Between Shias and Sunnis, there is little doubt which group has within them the most bizarre customs.

Non-Muslims living in the middle east find it quite strange, shirking even, when Sunnis go off on their five daily separate prayers. Sunni intolerance towards how others interpret and practice Islam is also bizarre.

And in this blessed month who can forget tarawih?

All examples of Sunnis trying to be pious, but misplaced from a Shia p.o.v.

[ali_fatheroforphans]

I think he wants to remind himself of Jahanam while praying. Anyway, I don't agree with this absurd behavior.

[Muslim2010]

50 minutes ago, starlight said:

So what's next ? 

Just curious,did you pre plan all this for the night of 23rd or these just descended upon you today?

Whatever was the case, it is mentioned such practices are mostly seen in lesser educated areas of subcontinent during the month of  Muharram not in Ramzan. The chanting of Ya Hussain can be listen in video clearly,

Though these provide a bad image to shias, but Sunnis are also following such practices because of rituals they carry out at the tombs and mazars

Edited June 7, 2018 by skyweb1987

[Ashvazdanghe]

Praying  (Namaz ) of a shia girl ,month of Ramadhan short clip  (God of all people )

https://youtu.be/eQdGX_9ttFg

[Haji 2003]

I think there's a bit of inconsistent taqiyya going on:

1 hour ago, Intellectual Resistance said:

Your issue should be with the Shias dragging the name of your Madhab

Compared to this

1 hour ago, Intellectual Resistance said:

I take people hijacking my Madhab very personally. 

[ShiaMan14]

5 hours ago, Intellectual Resistance said:

As if we couldn't get more bizarre in what we do. Where is this and does anyone know why they are doing this?

[Mod Note: The video is from an anti-Shia youtube channel.]

Personal note: I was not aware the youtube channel was 'anti-Shia' this just came up when i was also browsing self-mutilation videos of Shias on Laylatul Qadr and other bizarre practises.Not surprising enemies of Shias would want to spread these despicable acts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0KNrR6pKAI 

Posting this video just highlights your evilness. Instead of posting information on a variety of amaal that can be performed tonight, you search for bizarre videos to what end? What was the purpose? Furthermore, by posting this video, you are giving needless clicks to an anti-shia website. But then this is what is expected of you since you have a track record of doing this.

5 hours ago, Intellectual Resistance said:

How shocking. Are you surprised with the amount of sheer bizarre stupidity among Shias no-one takes us seriously?

Who doesn't takes us seriously? I need evidence, not fake hysteria.

5 hours ago, Intellectual Resistance said:

I think also brother , stupidity and superstition exists among some Shias also. We are becoming a laughing stock. 

You are already a laughing stock, don't confuse normal shias to be like you.

4 hours ago, 786:) said:

^^ the kinds of shia the video shows is what constitutes the majority of my community. Unfortunately, the culprit is the azadari subculture. The culture preaches that there is "no limitations in azadari". Such acts are a byproduct of that delusional belief.

Azadari...bad

Marajae...bad

Khums...bad

Internet stranger...good.

4 hours ago, Intellectual Resistance said:

Between Shias and Sunnis, there is little doubt which group has within them the most bizarre customs. Self mutilation of babies, massive blades cutting into scalps and backs, walking on coal, praying on fire, rolling around and covering ones whole body in very thick mud.  One needs only google image 'Sunni Muslims' and 'Shia Muslims' before delving into their own research. We even beaten Christians to it, barring the strange types who self-harm. 

Atheists are lost, and even they are making fun of our self-mutilation rituals, which also gets universal disgust from Sunnis and most Christians. 

All i can say is, i take this very personally and it hurts and we more than most other groups are a universal laughing stock. 

So I showed this video to a colleague (white American) who is well traveled and asked him to comment. His exact words, " I have seen the world enough to know all cultures have their own way of doing things. Looks like he is doing his thing without hurting anyone. More power to him"

Only you are the laughing stock. With each thread, you show yourself to be more and more anti-shia. I caught on pretty early, others are realizing it now.

4 hours ago, Shi3i_jadeed said:

What's the problem with this exactly? I mean I find it very odd and I personally wouldn't do something like this. Are you saying its haram? If so according to which maraji'? You need to stop caring so much about what kuffar and nawasib think of us, that's a sign of an inferiority complex. Dare I say you need a little bit of an American attitude. 

Exactly.

4 hours ago, Intellectual Resistance said:

Suicide bombing is totally different example. It's performed by 0.0001 percent if not less, of Sunnis and condemned by all their sects whole heartedly. You can't say the same about bizarre Shia rituals which are associated as a religious practise of the sect. 

Man praying on fire...bad

Suicide bombing...good because only a few thousand do it per year.

4 hours ago, Intellectual Resistance said:

Brother, i'm showing an inferiority complex by stating some acts are so far from rational behaviour, against our Fitrah in reason and sense, and by virtue of the act in and of itself brings ridicule to the Madhab in a manner which evokes universal disgust from Shia and non-Shia alike? It might be halal to bark like dogs and crawl around shrines as some do, but is that how we carry ourselves out as rational human beings?

You went hunting for anti-shia videos and posted something from an anti-shia site from 2 years ago...there is neither reason nor sense in this action.

3 hours ago, Intellectual Resistance said:

It was a brief browsing to see what goes on in the 21st Night (martyrdom of Ali (as)). I wanted to know how depraved some communities can get, that they can perform such barbaric acts in these holy nights. You would think they would see sense. I take people hijacking my Madhab very personally. 

So you post a video from 3.5 years ago and no idea what Islamic month it was shot in. How evil and deceitful of you.

3 hours ago, Intellectual Resistance said:

Think better of your brother. I am off to perform A'mals, and won't be on tonight. This was an incidental finding. 

Your issue should be with the Shias dragging the name of your Madhab through mud by acting in this manner and not me for bringing it to your attention. 

Yeah right. Make sure you only do amaals that the Prophet (saw). And no, the Prophet did not spend time on Google looking for ways to malign shias.

[ShiaMan14]

2 days ago, @Intellectual Resistance threw a tantrum at me before not defending him when he was wrong against a Sunni.

For the last 2 years and today, he has been trying to malign shias at every opportunity he gets.

Some shias do bizarre acts. More than a guy praying on fire, I find it bizarre that someone would spend time on Google trying to find "Shia crazy videos" to post on ShiaChat and then complain about being persecuted when no one other than 1 shia-hating person (  @786:)  ) defends him.

[Reza]

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