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16.5% Sadr 54 seats 14% PMF (Ameri) 47 seats13% Abadi 42 seats8% Maliki 26 seats7% KDP (Kurds) 24 seats6% Allawi 21 seats6% Hakim 19 seats5.5% PUK (Kurds) 18 seats 165 seats needed to form a govt

Sadrs Mahdi Army had slaughtered thousands of sunnis. Funny how he is considered non sectarian all of a sudden. Maybe because he has taken a few million from Saudi Arabia? 

I hope the people of Iraq will throw out these shaytans once and for all, all the suffering and chaos they have caused to the people there, its crazy that they are still allowed to walk in their land.

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37 minutes ago, IbnSina said:

Wow, thats very different from what I have heard. Whats al-Sadrs policy towards house of saudi?

Well, he's the favoured candidate of the US and the West in general. Go figure, they hated him most just a few years ago.

He's aligned with the Iraqi Communist Party, apparently, and is running on a platform of nationalism, secularism (kinda) and anti-corruption. Hopefully, he'll make good on those anti-corruption promises.

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1 minute ago, Khadim uz Zahra said:

Well, he's the favoured candidate of the US and the West in general. Go figure, they hated him most just a few years ago.

He's aligned with the Iraqi Communist Party, apparently, and is running on a platform of nationalism, secularism (kinda) and anti-corruption. Hopefully, he'll make good on those anti-corruption promises.

From my understanding he is closer to the saudis than the other shia options.

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Just now, IbnSina said:

From my understanding he is closer to the saudis than the other shia options.

I dunno how pro-Saudi he is. He is, after all, the nephew of Ayatollah Baqr al-Sadr and the son of Mohammed Sadiq al-Sadr. He also fought the US during the Iraqi invasion. The US seems to be looking forward to his winning because of his more secular pitch but I can't imagine he has changed so much that he would be pro-Saudi in any way.

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2 minutes ago, Khadim uz Zahra said:

I dunno how pro-Saudi he is. He is, after all, the nephew of Ayatollah Baqr al-Sadr and the son of Mohammed Sadiq al-Sadr. He also fought the US during the Iraqi invasion. The US seems to be looking forward to his winning because of his more secular pitch but I can't imagine he has changed so much that he would be pro-Saudi in any way.

Salam the actions of his great grand father & father is something which they done but he looks like the black ship of this line as Shirazis 

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20 minutes ago, Shi3i_jadeed said:

Interesting development.  What's the problem with Iraqis not wanting to be under the thumb of Iran? Iraq is not part of Iran... 

Nobody but the enemies of shia have claimed that Iraq is part of Iran, because they know how to manipulate people.

Better if shia nations stick together obviously.

I think Sadr will play on the peoples feeling of "arab belonging" instead of the better and more righteous alternative of "shia belonging".

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10 hours ago, Shi3i_jadeed said:

Interesting development.  What's the problem with Iraqis not wanting to be under the thumb of Iran? Iraq is not part of Iran... 

Can you cite me instances where Iran has dictated Iraq to do one thing or another?

If it wasnt for Iranian support, the shias would have been crushed by sunni extremists. So instead of appreciating this support, they are calling it interference?

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10 hours ago, Hamodiii said:

Why do people hate maliki? Only cause he agreed upon the death of saddam? If you hate saddam, you should love him? :/

Here is an interesting article from 2014.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/a-letter-from-sistani-turned-the-tide-against-iraqs-leader/2014/08/13/3b3426cf-60ee-4856-ad26-d01a9c6cc9c3_story.html

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11 hours ago, Shi3i_jadeed said:

Interesting development.  What's the problem with Iraqis not wanting to be under the thumb of Iran? Iraq is not part of Iran... 

Maybe one day inshallah. 

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More about Sadrs victory

Sadr looking to exclude the parties most aligned to Iran- Hashd & Maliki

 

Saudis first to congratulate him

As Imam Khomeini said, the day America (saudi being its puppet) praises us, is the day we must mourn. 

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Looks like House of Saud are happy.  

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May. 15, 2018 | 12:05 AM

Sadr takes surprise lead in Iraq polls

 

BAGHDAD: Nationalist religious scholar Moqtada al-Sadr, a longtime adversary of the United States, led in Iraq’s parliamentary election with more than half the votes counted Monday, the electoral commission said, in a surprise turn of fortune for the Shiite leader.

In the first election since Daesh (ISIS) was defeated in the country, Shiite militia chief Hadi al-Amiri’s bloc, which is backed by Iran, was in second place, while Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi, once seen as the front-runner, trailed in third position.

The preliminary results were based on a count of more than 95 percent of the votes cast in 10 of Iraq’s 18 provinces.

Unlike Abadi, a rare ally of both the United States and Iran, Sadr is an opponent of both of the countries, which have wielded influence in Iraq since a U.S.-led invasion toppled Sunni dictator Saddam Hussein in 2003 and ushered the Shiite majority to power.

Sadr has led two uprisings against U.S. forces in Iraq and is one of the few Shiite leaders to distance himself from Iran.

Despite the election setback, Abadi might still be granted a second term in office by Parliament and he called on all political blocs Monday to respect the results, suggesting he was willing to work with Sadr to form a government.

“We are ready to work and cooperate in forming the strongest government for Iraq, free of corruption,” Abadi said in a live televised address. Corruption has been the top of Sadr’s agenda for several years.

Projecting himself as a Iraqi nationalist, Sadr has a zealous following among the young, poor and dispossessed, but he had been sidelined by influential Iranian-backed figures. He cannot become prime minister as he did not run in the election, though his apparent victory puts him in a position to pick someone for the job.

But even then his bloc might not necessarily form the next government, since whoever wins the most seats must negotiate a coalition government in order to have a majority in Parliament. The government should be formed within 90 days of the official results.

Saturday’s election is the first since the defeat of Daesh, with the capture of its de facto capital Mosul, last year.

The group overran a third of Iraq in 2014.

Turnout was 44.52 percent with 92 percent of votes counted, the Independent High Electoral Commission said – significantly lower than in previous elections.

Sadr and Amiri both came in first in four of the 10 provinces where votes were counted, but the scholar’s bloc won significantly more votes in the capital, Baghdad, which has the highest number of seats.

A document provided to Reuters by a candidate in Baghdad that was also circulating among journalists and analysts showed results from all 18 provinces.

Reuters could not independently verify the document’s authenticity but the results showed Sadr had won the nationwide popular vote, with more than 1.3 million votes, and gained 54 of 329 seats in Parliament.

He was followed by Amiri with more than 1.2 million votes, translating into 47 seats, and Abadi with more than 1 million votes and 42 seats, according to calculations made by Reuters based on the document. Ex-Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, a close ally of Iran like Amiri, came in fourth with 25 seats.

Winning the largest number of seats does not automatically guarantee that Sadr will be able to hand-pick a prime minister.

The other winning blocs would have to agree on the nomination.

In a 2010 election, Vice President Ayad Allawi’s group won the largest number of seats, albeit with a narrow margin, but he was blocked from becoming prime minister for which he blamed Tehran.

And a similar fate could befall Sadr. Iran has publicly stated it would not allow his bloc to govern and may try to form a governing coalition between its allies, Amiri and Maliki.

“We will not allow liberals and communists to govern in Iraq,” Ali Akbar Velayati, top adviser to Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, said in February.

His statement, which sparked criticism by Iraqi figures, was referring to the electoral alliance between Sadr, the Iraqi Communist Party and other secular groups who joined protests organized by Sadr in 2016 to press the government to see through a move to stem endemic corruption.

Iraqi Communist Party Secretary General Raed Fahmy told Reuters the vote in favor of the Sadrist list, backed by his group, “is a clear message that we must have balanced relations with all [foreign countries] based on noninterference in Iraq’s internal affairs.”

“Everybody is welcome to provide support to Iraq, but not at the expense of its sovereignty and independence,” he added.

During the campaign, frustrated Iraqis of all shades complained about their political elite’s systematic patronage, bad governance and corruption, saying they didn’t receive any benefits of their country’s oil wealth.

“The importance of this vote is that it is a clear message that the people wants to change the system of governance which has produced corruption and weakened state institutions,” Fahmy said.

“It is a message to provide services to the people, health and education, and to reduce social disparities.”

Iraq has been ranked among the world’s most corrupt countries, with high unemployment, rife poverty, weak public institutions and bad services despite high oil revenues for many years.

Endemic corruption has eaten at the government’s financial resources.

Fahmy told his party’s website Abadi was “closer” to Sadr’s block than the other main contenders.

Sadr derives much of his authority from his family. Sadr’s father, highly respected Grand Ayatollah Mohammad Sadeq al-Sadr, was murdered in 1999 for defying Saddam Hussein. His father’s cousin, Mohammad Baqir, was killed by Saddam in 1980.

Celebrations erupted on the streets of Baghdad after the commission’s announcement, with thousands of Sadr’s supporters singing, chanting, dancing and setting off fireworks while carrying his picture and waving Iraqi flags.

Many of his supporters chanted “Iran out.”

“Iraq is rich, the country doesn’t need Iran, it can stand on its feet and be prosperous it just need good management,” said Mohammad Sadeq, a trader in the city of Hilla who voted for Sadr’s list.

Whoever wins the election will have to contend with the fallout from U.S. President Donald Trump’s decision to quit Iran’s nuclear deal, a move Iraqis fear could turn their country into a theatre of conflict between Washington and Tehran.

Abadi, a British-educated engineer who came to power four years ago after Daesh seized a third of Iraq’s territory, received U.S. military support for Iraq’s army to defeat the Sunni militant group even as he gave free rein to Iran to back Shiite militias fighting on the same side.

If Parliament does grant him a second term, Abadi will remain under pressure to maintain the balancing act between Washington and Tehran despite their tensions over the nuclear accord.

 
 
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23 hours ago, Laayla said:

He cannot become prime minister as he did not run in the election, though his apparent victory puts him in a position to pick someone for the job.

Well that’s anticlimactic. 

So instead of Sadr strutting the stage, it will be some unknown technocrat he picks?

Will it turn into a Trumpesque revolving door of nobodies as PM?

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On 5/14/2018 at 6:26 PM, Abu Nur said:

So Sadr choose Saudis instead of Iran...okeyy.

Does anyone else remember that Sadr was recently in Saudi Arabia? There were pics here at ShiaChat of the meeting and people were speculating why he would meet with them. 

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Just now, Hameedeh said:

Does anyone else remember that Sadr was recently in Saudi Arabia? There were pics here at ShiaChat of the meeting and people were speculating why he would meet with them. 

Yes he did that. It seems that he want to have good relationship with Saudi-Arabia and Iraqi Sunnis.

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On 5/14/2018 at 5:34 PM, shiasoldier786 said:

More about Sadrs victory

Sadr looking to exclude the parties most aligned to Iran- Hashd & Maliki

Saudis first to congratulate him

As Imam Khomeini said, the day America (saudi being its puppet) praises us, is the day we must mourn. 

Salam bro! hope you are doing fine..

We shouldn't play in the hands of enemies (Saudis..gulf little monnafiqeen) and western trouble makers..

Congratulation to Sadr and his supporters for winning some extra seats than other parties...

Remember Bush backed by Europe and Saudi/Gulf states invaded Iraq removed Saddam? What was next?

Next, very secular Shias like Alawi and ex-Baathists who cared less for Saddam should have came to power and oppress Shias and act anti-Iran  (that plan failed)

Then, second step was to unite all Baathists, Sunni Ikhwans, and a few secular Shias to take power ( that plan failed too and Tariq Hashemi ran away) this time Turkey was involved too.

Then, finally they play extreme sectarian cards and tried to bring groups like ISIS to power but mainly control them by ex-Baathists, so once Shia government in Baghdad falls, and borders are secured, then they remove ISIS elements and install a puppet Sunni (possibly an ex-Baathist) as a new dictator for years to come... just like Sisi in Egypt who will run forever and control everything. (ONCE AGAIN THAT PLAN FAILED TOO)

Now, Saudis been trying the last card for the past few years, to buy Shia parties, personalities, once invite Hakim to king's palace, once Sadr, offer aids and support, speak of Arabism and unity and other BS stories (because they know that they already lost many times, so they want to at least try to keep Iran out or at least limit Iran's influence)

But the answer is clear, they will fail again.. .. by 'they' I mean Saudis and western states, don't ignore the fact that Saudis/UAE will not act and will not play this last card without the permission of their masters in the west.

I hope Sadr and all other groups whom Saudis are interested in will make billions of dollars out of these little monafiqeen and then kick their [edit]... And hopefully the new PM will ask all western forces to leave Iraq for good and limit them to diplomats in their embassies.

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20 hours ago, zionismdestroyer said:

its good to have better relation for world Peace With everyone and he did also say that it will not effect relations with Iran

Salam the good point is that Shia are power state after many years at Iraq although it has Sadr weaker connection with Iran ,also it lets Iran to call his advisors to Iran for avoiding more conflict in region & Iraqis have to cope with their choice as it always before reappearance of Imam Mahdi (aj) it was predicted that Syria & Iraq would face to more troubles from enemies of Imam Mahdi (aj) which by backing Iranian advisers to Iran ,Iran will lesser suffer from problems in region.   

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On 5/16/2018 at 10:27 AM, zionismdestroyer said:

its good to have better relation for world Peace With everyone and he did also say that it will not effect relations with Iran

death to Wahhabism, Zionism ; cancers

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Interestingly, since the declaration of the results, there's a barrage of tweets from Sadr trash-talking Iran, but not a single word in condemnation of the Saudis (la)- who sent the Daesh(la) and whose leaders called those hogs 'revolutionaries'.
Is it just me, or is someone else also finding it odd...?

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Not bad results. I preferred Al-Abadi but if Sadr keeps his promises, then insha Allah we will succeed. Anything is better than Al-Maliki or Al-Ameri, who have failed the Iraqi people time and time again.

I don't know why you people are angry the Iraqi people don't want to be involved in regional issues and conflicts, that's because we have been the centre of these conflicts. Since 1991 our country hasn't had a break, we had the worst sanctions ever implemented on a country, then we had the war which killed possibly upward of a million people, and the terrorism that came with it/after it. All we want now is to get rid of sectarianism, and have security and economic prosperity.

Iraq doesn't belong to any regional axis or bloc, in this country we have too much diversity to be in one - (Sunni, Shi'a, Arab, Kurd, Turkmen) - so we have to achieve national unity and be completely independent.

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