How much does death scare you

[Jaffar_is_in_use]

Is death something you fear of. Before I feared of death and getting killed in an accident. But when I deeply think about it,. I don't fear death at all. If I die then I die and I have taken it in.

What are your views of death? And do you fear it. Do you do stuff sometimes to avoid stuff. Maybe for example not riding a roller coaster because you fear of falling of and dying or do you ride it and know with the possibility of dying. (I pick the second one)

The only part of death I fear is if I die before my mum dies and knowing how much she will grief.

[Islandsandmirrors]

Death scares me a little because I fear the Day of Judgement. 

[Hameedeh]

On 4/28/2018 at 3:50 PM, Jaffar_is_in_use said:

Is death something you fear of.

Death is not something I like to think about now, although I remember that when I was younger I created a topic called Angel of Death. 

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 أَوْلَىٰ لَكَ فَأَوْلَىٰ

Woe to you, and woe! [Holy Qur'an 75:34]

Awla laka faawla

[Wholehearted Shi'a]

Death doesn't scare me but the thought of having loved ones pass away makes me a little scared that I will be alone in this life. 

[Sisterfatima1]

Salam 

i think other things scare me more 

[Reza]

Let's not confuse the process of dying with the state of death itself. 

[Be Human First]

When i was young under 20s yes i was too scared of dying, and then with time, Alhumdolilah I'm ready to face it any time. Yes, there is a thought about loved ones and incomlpete tasks of life but eventually everything would fall in place, as Allah  has gifted us with Time and the Memory that helps in decreasing the intenstity of pain for near&dear ones. 

[Abu Nur]

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Woe to you, and woe! [Holy Qur'an 75:34]

Actually it is not two but four woes!

Woe to you, and woe!
Then woe to you, and woe! 75:34-35

These are actually very deep verses. God tell us by His infinite wisdom of the greatness loss humanity will get in both worlds. It is very sad.

Edited May 11, 2018 by Abu Nur

[starlight]

Not scared at all. I will be happy (inshAllah) when the time comes for the next leg of the journey. The only thing I really care about in this dunya are my children, who are still little and my old mother who needs looking after but as the Quran repeatedly says, children (and wealth) are 'zeenah' of this dunya only. The moment I leave this dunya my responsibilities towards my family would be over and the only thing that would be left behind would be my upbringing towards them which can either be a sadqa e jariyaah for me or otherwise depending on how i raise them.  I have trust in Allahسُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى that he will take care of my children even if I die when they are little because it's Him who ultimately takes care of all of His creations. I am merely a channel to bring some ease to my family. It's not beyond Him to create another channel, maybe someone even better than me if he so wishes. With these thoughts in my mind the prospect of even an early death does not disturb me.

[Gaius I. Caesar]

@Islandsandmirrors @Sisterfatima1  @Hameedeh @Reza  @Abu Nur @starlight

Is it wrong that I am not scared of dying?

Edited May 11, 2018 by Gaius I. Caesar

[Islandsandmirrors]

9 minutes ago, Gaius I. Caesar said:

@Islandsandmirrors @Sisterfatima1  @Hameedeh @Reza  @Abu Nur @starlight

Is it wrong that I am not scared of dying?

No, it’s not wrong, Gaius. You’re very blessed to feel that way, I’d say. 

[Sirius_Bright]

Death doesn't scare me. It's the grief my family will go through and facing Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى with all these sins. 

If you are informed that you are going to meet Imam Ali (a.s.), you'll rejoice not fear. 

[Gaius I. Caesar]

13 minutes ago, Sirius_Bright said:

It's the grief my family will go through and facing Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى with all these sins. 

That's very different from my views. I do not feel the same about my family, except for a very few.  This may sound selfish but I focus on me, not others; I have no control over them whatsoever.  I have become desensitized to goodbyes, I've accepted a long time ago that people come and go in life, whether it be a move or a funeral.

[Urwatul Wuthqa]

To not fear death, one must possess ma'arfah of nafs.

Otherwise, it is a very scary thing, catch us suddenly, completely camouflaged. If you see the person dyeing, you will fear it. It causes pain & suffocation to this material body. 

[Gaius I. Caesar]

18 minutes ago, Salsabeel said:

, one must possess ma'arfah of nafs.

What's that^

[Urwatul Wuthqa]

1 minute ago, Gaius I. Caesar said:

What's that^

inner-knowledge of self. 

Imam Ali (asws) has said: Man aa'rafa nafsah, faqad aa'rafa rabbah (The one who knows himself, knows Allah s.w.t) 

[Gaius I. Caesar]

Just now, Salsabeel said:

inner-knowledge of self. 

Imam Ali (asws) has said: Man aa'rafa nafsah, faqad aa'rafa rabbah (The one who knows himself, knows Allah s.w.t) 

I believe I know myself pretty well.

[Urwatul Wuthqa]

Just now, Gaius I. Caesar said:

I believe I know myself pretty well.

 Everyone believe that he knows himself but very few knows in reality. I do hope that you knows yourself by the grace of Almighty Lord & by the grace of the love of Ahlul Bayt (asws) you have in your heart. 

[Gaius I. Caesar]

Just now, Salsabeel said:

 Everyone believe that he knows himself but very few knows in reality. I do hope that you knows yourself by the grace of Almighty Lord & by the grace of the love of Ahlul Bayt (asws) you have in your heart. 

I know myself enough to the capabilities and limits of myself and that most of my limits are in the mind only. Just knowing this gives me more strength in my faith and gratefulness for Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى and Ahlulbayt (asws). What would that be considered?

[Urwatul Wuthqa]

3 minutes ago, Gaius I. Caesar said:

What would that be considered?

It is semi-ma'arfah.  
There is a long journey ahead brother. 

And I am well behind you brother...

Edited May 11, 2018 by Salsabeel

[Gaius I. Caesar]

1 minute ago, Salsabeel said:

It is semi-ma'arfah.

You know where I learned this? Through my experiences living with  cerebral palsy and recent experiences in college this semester.

3 minutes ago, Salsabeel said:

There is a long journey ahead brother. 

Insha'Allah

[starlight]

@Gaius I. Caesar To me not being scared of death means that one isn't attached to this dunya and feels prepared to face Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى to account for his deeds, which is a good thing.

[PureExistence1]

As salaamun aleikum, 

I have many different death related fears. I had a fiance that passed away from a brain aneurysm back in 2005 and it was a devastating event. We knew each other a year and a half when he died and it was really hard on me. Not a day goes by that i dont remember him-if this is how hard its been for me with him passing away,what can i expect when my parents die?? This TERRIFYS ME! They are both old, in there 70s and sick, so i feel it can happen any day, at any moment. It is horrible to wake up to this fear every morning and go to sleep thinking of it every night, but i am greatfull for each day they are still here.

Regarding my own death, i am scared that at the time it is to occur that i will panic, like a person who is drowning that grabs at anything they possibly can to save themself, but in the case of death, i think my problem will be that i will be terrified to let go of the only thing ive ever known, which is my life, and this physical world. We are told Jannah is this beautiful wonderful place where we will have everything and anything we could ever imagine, but in all reality, i havent experienced it yet-so far, it is only an idea ive heard people talk about from the mimbar and read about in the Quran and hadith, but it is not a memory or experience i have had, and for me, the attachment to what i have known and the memories i have are much stronger and "real" to me than something ive only heard about or imagined. I am afraid i will never see the sunset or sunrise again, never hear birds or the wind in the trees, or rain on the old tin roof of my barn,or frogs in the evening. I think of the different seasons as they come and go, when the hills turn green in the winter and spring, and when the fields turn gold in the summer and autumn. Even the smell of poison oak is sweet in the early spring, even though im deathly allergic to it...For some reason, i am scared to lose these things. I couldnt care less about leaving material wealth behind, but for some reason, i believe i will miss all these other things greatly, and having to detach from it will be painfull. This one thing im scared of. 

Another thing im afraid of is the condition my soul will be in in barzakh. That is where all my deeds, good and bad will manifest. All the behaviors i have ingrained in my soul will become apparent there and i will have to bear the consequences of them, good and bad, until Judgement, and a scary part of that is not really knowing what kind of consequences they will be. I have no idea whats ahead of me, so its fear of the unknown. What i DO know, is old ingrained habits, behaviors and hardwiring are extremelly difficult to change when theyve been reinforced for years and years, and this is the stuff i have to eradicate and free my soul of, in sha Allah, before i die, which only Allahسُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى knows when that will be. What if it happens before ive accomplished all this?!?! Yet another thing to be afraid of:/ 

Anyhow, these are my fears regarding death.

 

W/S

Edited May 11, 2018 by shia farm girl
Ommitted something/added something

[ireallywannaknow]

I've always feared pain. So I think about dying in a painful way and that scares me. The painful squeezing in the grave to purify me of my sins, and other painful processes before I'm allowed to enter jannah inshaAllah. 

As a matter of fact before I opened shiachat and read this topic, I was just thinking about the 3 Muslim students that got shot a few years ago in North Carolina and how scary and painful that must have been and it made me scared to die like that. 

In regards to other people dying I fear for my husband every day because he has epilepsy and I'm always afraid he will have a seizure while driving and die and I cant imagine life without him. 

May Allah have mercy on all of us. 

[EndTimesCodes]

Since recently... thinking of my Death... brings a Smile on my Face... i think of White Dress n Perfume and a Special Meeting... as if it would be a Day of Eid for me... i myself wonder a bit how this gradual change of view took place inside me... 

[Urwatul Wuthqa]

10 hours ago, ireallywannaknow said:

I've always feared pain.

The relationship of pain with us is very interesting. When we come in this world, we come by tasting the pain. As our ties with the luxury world of womb starts disconnecting & we start moving into the congested canal, that was the place where we have tasted the pain. When we come in this world, we start crying, seems like as we have disliked the change. 

If a person has not grasped or has not maintained strong relation with the "thaqalain" (i.e., Quran & Ahlul Bayt asws), he will going to dislike that change (at the time of death) too & feel greater degree of pain as well as fear. For his fear it would be sufficient when angels instead of giving glad tidings to him, says the opposite. 

Death has been mentioned as "Yaqeen" (certainty) in Quran. And when one becomes certain of his place in hereafter, it either produce the emotions like fear or happiness. 

[Abu Nur]

15 hours ago, Gaius I. Caesar said:

@Islandsandmirrors @Sisterfatima1  @Hameedeh @Reza  @Abu Nur @starlight

Is it wrong that I am not scared of dying?

Salaam Aleikum,

It is two state thing. Death should be loved more than life, but Resurrection is the one that we should fear the most. 

Imam al-Baqir [a] said, "None of you can attain the reality of faith until one has three characteristics:

(1) Death is more beloved to him than life.
(2) Poverty is more beloved to him than wealth.
(3) Illness is more beloved to him than good health.

The people said, "Who has these characteristics?"

The Imam replied, "All of you." Then he said, "What is more beloved to you, to die with our love, or to live with our hatred?"

A man replied, "By Allah, to die with your love is more beloved to us."

The Imam then said, "And it is the same with poverty and wealth, and illness and good health."

The man said, "Yes, by Allah."

أبي ـ رحمه‌الله ـ قال : حدثنا سعد بن عبد الله ، عن أحمد بن أبي عبد الله ، عن محمد ابن علي ، عن حارث بن الحسن الطحان ، عن إبراهيم بن عبد الله ، عن فضيل بن يسار ، عن أبي جعفر عليه‌السلام قال : لا يبلغ أحدكم حقيقة الايمان حتى يكون فيه ثلاث خصال حتى يكون الموت أحب إليه من الحياة ، والفقر أحب إليه من الغنى ، والمرض أحب إليه من الصحة. قلنا : ومن يكون كذلك؟ قال : كلكم ، ثم قال : أيما أحب إلى أحدكم يموت في حبنا أو يعيش في بغضنا؟ فقلت : نموت والله في حبكم أحب إلينا. قال : وكذلك الفقر والغنى والمرض والصحة. قلت : إي والله

(Ma`ani al-Akhbar)

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Even Imam Hasan (as) who is among the pure Five of Ahlulbait (as) is fearing the Day of Resurrection;

Imam Ridha’ (a.s.) has narrated from his father and grandfathers (a.s.) that Imam Hasan (a.s.) cried before his demise. He was asked, “O son of Messenger of Allah! Do you cry out of Allah’s fear while you had a lofty position before the Messenger of Allah (S), went to Hajj barefooted twenty times, and divided your wealth with the poor three times?!” Imam Hasan (a.s.) stated, “My crying is for two things; for fear of the Resurrection and for distance of the friends.” Biharul Anwar, Vol 43, p. 332.

That's is very scary.

[Sirius_Bright]

5 hours ago, Abu Nur said:

Imam Hasan (a.s.) stated, “My crying is for two things; for fear of the Resurrection

Not sure, but I don't think an infallible Imam would have that fear. It was probably a lesson for the people to fear for the ultimate day. This is similar to Imam (a.s.) asking forgiveness in supplications (like Dua Kumayl) even though he hasn't committed sin. 

[Sirius_Bright]

9 hours ago, Gaius I. Caesar said:

That's very different from my views. I do not feel the same about my family, except for a very few.  This may sound selfish but I focus on me, not others; I have no control over them whatsoever.  I have become desensitized to goodbyes, I've accepted a long time ago that people come and go in life, whether it be a move or a funeral.

To see a motionless body of a young son is the most difficult thing in the world for parents. Knowing what our parents will go through after our passing away from this temporary world is equally tragic for us. 

Second thing, I'm not sure how many of my prayers are accepted by Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى, and how many of good deeds are acknowledged by Him. How much severe penalties I have to face for the sins. 

However, intercession of Ahlulbait (ams) is hope for us shias and that is what makes it less scarier. 

[Urwatul Wuthqa]

1 hour ago, Sirius_Bright said:

Not sure, but I don't think an infallible Imam would have that fear

Surah Al-Anbiya, Verse 28:
يَعْلَمُ مَا بَيْنَ أَيْدِيهِمْ وَمَا خَلْفَهُمْ وَلَا يَشْفَعُونَ إِلَّا لِمَنِ ارْتَضَىٰ وَهُم مِّنْ خَشْيَتِهِ مُشْفِقُونَ

He knows what is before them and what is behind them, and they do not intercede except for him whom He approves and for fear of Him they tremble.
(English - Shakir)

Surah Al-Anbiya, Verse 49:
الَّذِينَ يَخْشَوْنَ رَبَّهُم بِالْغَيْبِ وَهُم مِّنَ السَّاعَةِ مُشْفِقُونَ

(For) those who fear their Lord in secret and they are fearful of the hour.
(English - Shakir)

[Abu Nur]

1 hour ago, Sirius_Bright said:

Not sure, but I don't think an infallible Imam would have that fear. It was probably a lesson for the people to fear for the ultimate day. This is similar to Imam (a.s.) asking forgiveness in supplications (like Dua Kumayl) even though he hasn't committed sin. 

They have fear of Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى and fear also for His day.

Edited May 11, 2018 by Abu Nur

[Urwatul Wuthqa]

9 minutes ago, Abu Nur said:

They have fear of Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى and fear also for His day.

And one more thing brother:

Surah Al-Maarij, Verse 27:
وَالَّذِينَ هُم مِّنْ عَذَابِ رَبِّهِم مُّشْفِقُونَ

And those who are fearful of the chastisement of their Lord--
(English - Shakir)

[Abu Nur]

1 minute ago, Salsabeel said:

And one more thing brother:

Surah Al-Maarij, Verse 27:
وَالَّذِينَ هُم مِّنْ عَذَابِ رَبِّهِم مُّشْفِقُونَ

And those who are fearful of the chastisement of their Lord--
(English - Shakir)

This is why Imam Husain (as) in Dua Arafa in last moment asked from Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى protection from Hell Fire, even when they have such a high position.

[Sirius_Bright]

25 minutes ago, Abu Nur said:

They have fear of Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى and fear also for His day.

I think you misunderstood me. Aimma (ams) fear Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى but they do not fear Day of Judgement like us fallibles do due to sin. If someone can provide clear hadith on the matter it would be better.

Anyways, further discussion on this would deviate the topic at hand.

[notme]

I don't fear death itself, but I do worry what will happen to my children and husband without me. I guess that's actually a kind of arrogance, to think of myself as critical to their quality of life. 

The purgatory will be hard, no doubt, but it's not eternal, so with that in mind I'm sure any believer can get through it.