Toronto Van Attack

[Abu Hadi]

https://globalnews.ca/news/4161785/pedestrians-hit-white-van-toronto/

Hope the guy wasn't muslim. 

Anyone have more info. I have friends who live in the area. Trying to call them. 

[Ibn Al-Shahid]

Look at the language being used,

Incident instead of 'Attack'

'Suspect' instead of 'Terrorist'

Most likely isn't Muslim.

[forte]

The driver was Alek Minassian from Richmond Hill. https://everipedia.org/wiki/alek-minassian/

[Abu Hadi]

Its being called an attack but not a terrorist attack, and the guy isn't being called a terrorist. If he was muslim, the RMP would already be rounding people up. BTW, almost the exact same thing happened in New York a few months back. A guy mowing down people in a van while they were walking on the sidewalk. It was called an act of Terrorism, press conferences, etc. 

In what New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio called a "cowardly act of terror," a man driving a rental truck struck and killed eight people on a bike path Tuesday afternoon.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/dead-truck-plows-people-york-city-cowardly-act/story?id=50842052

People on the right think that all terrorism is done by muslims, because it is only when the perpetrator is a muslim is it called 'terrorism', even if a non muslim does the exact same act. Weird. 

Edited April 23, 2018 by Abu Hadi

[King]

Have to give the cop credit for not shooting the guy.  If this was in the US the suspect would have been shot 200 times.

[Reza]

47 minutes ago, Ibn Al-Shahid said:

Most likely isn't Muslim.

Guess Trump has to find another topic to tweet about instead. 

[Hameedeh]

From the video that @King posted, the "suspect" wanted the policeman to shoot him "in the head".  This looks like a premeditated attack and murder of innocent pedestrians. Such carnage by the van driver killing people. This is horrible!

[Qa'im]

It seems like the guy was a frustrated incel (involuntary celibate) "getting back at society" for his lack of a love life.

[Zurushkan]

This was facebook.

https://i.imgur.com/6gEPEXi.png

[Ashvazdanghe]

this is an Iranian currency exchange in name of Tehran in yellow banner near place of van attack it's a bit suspicious. 

 

[Abu Hadi]

the picture posted from his facebook account shows that he had a political motivation, yet no metion of the 'T' word at all. 

Edited April 24, 2018 by Abu Hadi

[Haji 2003]

8 hours ago, Qa'im said:

It seems like the guy was a frustrated incel (involuntary celibate) "getting back at society" for his lack of a love life.

He was also in IT.

That could have contributed to the lack of a love life.

[Mansur Bakhtiari]

A van mowed down pedestrians in North York which is in the northern part of Toronto. Knowing the area it's almost like a second downtown and would be even busier considering how good the weather was, but some deranged individual decided to take out his anger over his own problems on these innocent people. The latest reports say 10 dead and 15 injured.

https://www.straight.com/news/1063001/toronto-mass-murder-suspect-alek-minassian-declared-incel-rebellion-and-praised

[Abu Hadi]

And, as expected, not a peep out of Trump

[Wahdat]

12 hours ago, Qa'im said:

It seems like the guy was a frustrated incel (involuntary celibate) "getting back at society" for his lack of a love life.

Now his whole life is going to be involuntary and in cell...folks in prison are not going to be easy on him.

Edited April 24, 2018 by Wahdat

[Wahdat]

14 hours ago, King said:

Have to give the cop credit for not shooting the guy.  If this was in the US the suspect would have been shot 200 times.

This officer should be given a promotion for doing everything peacefully and all by himself....something 20 American cops would be unable to do.

[Enlightened Follower]

9 hours ago, Mansur Bakhtiari said:

A van mowed down pedestrians in North York which is in the northern part of Toronto. Knowing the area it's almost like a second downtown and would be even busier considering how good the weather was, but some deranged individual decided to take out his anger over his own problems on these innocent people. The latest reports say 10 dead and 15 injured.

https://www.straight.com/news/1063001/toronto-mass-murder-suspect-alek-minassian-declared-incel-rebellion-and-praised

I have commented on this exact problem occurring in Western societies and men who are incels(involuntarily celibate) or sexually frustrated being the vast portion of shooters or perpetrators of violence:

http://www.shiachat.com/forum/topic/235056994-men-in-the-west-are-becoming-feminized/

[Enlightened Follower]

FYI, Chad is a guy in his prime who gets all the attention from women, Stacy is the female equivalent who gets all the attention from men. Both of these archetypes have high SMV or sexual market value.

[Mansur Bakhtiari]

14 hours ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

this is an Iranian currency exchange in name of Tehran in yellow banner near place of van attack it's a bit suspicious.  

I've been there, North York is an area with a lot of Iranians which is why you see Farsi billboards and stores everywhere. Tehranto.

[Panzerwaffe]

Salafi idiots and the sunni imperialist Muslims are still the biggest threat to western countries,  I agree with Trump we should ban their migration 

Can shias imagine what a nightmare Canada will be if it's majority sunni Muslim?

Only place we can practice our rituals without fear is in godless western secular countries so let's not support more of these radical Muslims coming in from Syria and other places , hope Assad takes care of all radicals before they infect other societies 

[Ashvazdanghe]

2 hours ago, Panzerwaffe said:

Salafi idiots and the sunni imperialist Muslims are still the biggest threat to western countries,  I agree with Trump we should ban their migration 

Can shias imagine what a nightmare Canada will be if it's majority sunni Muslim?

Only place we can practice our rituals without fear is in godless western secular countries so let's not support more of these radical Muslims coming in from Syria and other places , hope Assad takes care of all radicals before they infect other societies 

Ttrump ban just causes problem for Shia & moderate Sunni Muslims but Salafis & Wahabists don’t suffer from this issue most of them are from KSA & Egypt but they can freely travel to USA .

[Panzerwaffe]

^ most moderate Sunnis in USA are potential radicals 

I meet these hijabis every day , don't know anything about religion or it's history they suffer identity crisis so hide behind. hijab  and beard 

[Mansur Bakhtiari]

Oh wow banning entry for Iranians (90% shia) and Iraqis (60% shia) really cracks down on Sunni terrorism. 

[Ashvazdanghe]

26 minutes ago, Panzerwaffe said:

^ most moderate Sunnis in USA are potential radicals 

I meet these hijabis every day , don't know anything about religion or it's history they suffer identity crisis so hide behind. hijab  and beard 

It’s sadly true & it’s a common syndrome among them  , this is because Sunnis always are trying to ignore Islamic history or they have a false Image of past Golden age that created by radicals because if Sunnis teach Truely about Islamic history most of them will abonden their beliefs & will join to shia Islam.

[Hameedeh]

The Twitter account that was posted above was not the suspect's account, so it was removed. 

[ShiaChat Mod]

Facebook Canada spokesperson said today that the suspect's Facebook account has been deleted.

[Hameedeh]

53 minutes ago, ShiaChat Mod said:

Facebook Canada spokesperson said today that the suspect's Facebook account has been deleted.

If the suspect's Facebook account will be evidence against himself in a court proceeding or a trial, the account is probably hidden from from view but authorities are studying it.

[Abu Hadi]

This is from Buzzfeed  regarding his twitter account.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/amberjamieson/toronto-van-attack-victims-women?utm_term=.ah4VZn2v4B#.ceeXmLrP0z

From what I have read so far, there seems to be a consensus that he was active in some anti-women hate group. I never heard of this group before yesterday. 

[hasanhh]

5 hours ago, Abu Hadi said:

This is from Buzzfeed  regarding his twitter account.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/amberjamieson/toronto-van-attack-victims-women?utm_term=.ah4VZn2v4B#.ceeXmLrP0z

From what I have read so far, there seems to be a consensus that he was active in some anti-women hate group. I never heard of this group before yesterday. 

l never heard of "lncel" either.

lncel = "involuntary celibacy"

After l read about the "Heaven's Gate" nutcases returning a telescope because they thought something was wrong with it (they couldn't see the spaceship behind a comet), l became more convinced than ever that way too many people are basically disturbed.

[Haji 2003]

Quote

The message has brought new-found attention to the so-called incel movement, one of the stranger offshoots of the “alt right”, and led to calls for the attack to be recognised as an act of far-right terrorism.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/apr/25/what-is-incel-movement-toronto-van-attack-suspect

[Don'tMakeAس]

2 hours ago, Haji 2003 said:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/apr/25/what-is-incel-movement-toronto-van-attack-suspect

Terrorism, maybe.

But the 'alt-right' label is what I'm more critical of -- everything I've read about this guy points to the fact that he was autistic, disturbed, and definetely should not have been able to rent a van. I have a hard time believing anyone who'd openly brag about being an incel would be accepted by the alt-right, and the two movements' shared misogynism seems coincidental at best.

[Silas]

I haven't seen any evidence that this guy was part of the Alt-Right, but he was certainly involved with these manosphere / MRA groups and had serious issues with women.

Some of those manosphere guys gravitate to radical right-wing politics such as the Alt-Right, but I would say it is a pretty small percentage. 

[ShiaChat Mod]

Definitely he hated women and if he had not committed this crime people would have thought the Incel Rebellion post on Facebook was just a joke. To link this criminal guy with a political agenda seems a bit of a stretch, but if it makes the Alt-Right look worse, I'm okay with that. 

[Enlightened Follower]

22 minutes ago, Silas said:

I haven't seen any evidence that this guy was part of the Alt-Right, but he was certainly involved with these manosphere / MRA groups and had serious issues with women.

Some of those manosphere guys gravitate to radical right-wing politics such as the Alt-Right, but I would say it is a pretty small percentage. 

MRAs are typically non violent, incels on the other hand have had no contact with women and are sexually frustrated.

[Abu Hadi]

What I don't understand about this movement is (or maybe I'm understanding it wrong) is that if their goal is to get women to sleep with them, aren't they making it less likely for that to happen by

1) Acting like extreme weirdos that no women would ever want to be around and in the case of this guy

2) Actually decreasing the population of women by running them over as they walk down the street. 

My heart goes out to all the brothers and sisters in the GTA who were affected by this senseless tragedy. May Allah(s.w.a) help them and give them comfort in this time of extreme senselessness.