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Another False Flag Chemical Attack In Syria

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13 hours ago, TheSpectator said:

I'm sorry, but what?

So Russia, NOT AMERICA, is trying to take the middle-east...

America, who have gone into Iraq for "nuclear weapons" and are still there to THIS DAY, despite none being found???

America, who, despite promising no more American boots on Syrian soil back in 2013, ARE STILL THERE???

America, who basically have the Saudis on a leash?

America, who support Israel, the country which kills Arabs on nearly a daily basis?

The world is blind...

BOTH America AND Russia want to control major areas of the Middle-East

Don't trade the devil you know with the devil you don't know. Putin's efforts against the Jihadists are simply to keep them away from his naval base in Syria --he doesn't care about what happens to the victims of ISIS. He might be concerned if fundamentalist violence were to spill over into Russia, but that is about it.

He isn't some kind of ally, and he isn't reliable. 

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On ‎4‎/‎8‎/‎2018 at 2:54 PM, JermainTaylor said:

No point reasoning here. Their heads are in the sand and they will blame anyone but Assad and are deluded. In fact even if they knew Assad did it, they wil support him.

It is blantantly obvious why this is and it sad that a vast section of this sect are terrorist sympathisers...

**Bahrain protest quelled (c.90 or so dead)

Shiachat:- unspeakable.. horrible crime!! Ya Fatima!

**Syrian protests quelled with massacre (death count massive)

Shiachat:- bro this is a plot by the zionists and the west.

**Yemen foreigin intervention by Saudi and airstrikes

Shiachat:- oh the inhumanity!!! These sick wahabis are dping airstrikes and intervening in foreign lands!! Ya Hussain!!

**Russian airstrikes and Iranian intervention in Syria.

Shiachat: roarr, the lions of Ali in Iran are saving us from the terrorist syrian rebels .Praise Russia!!

**Baathist tyrant in Iraq, Saddam Hussein

Shiachat: lanat on this dog!! Horrible man, ya Zainab

**Baathist tyrant in Syria, Bashar Al Assad

Shiachat: What a glorious lion! May the imams bless him...

I can keep going on but this is the pathetic nature of the people you are dealing with.

If no point? Then why you bothered to reason?

How easily you compare Bahrain, Iraq with Syria? How many thousand Shia ISIS, Nusra terrorist, and 10s of other terrorist organizations can you name in Bahrain or Iraq?

Syria! Except Assad and Muhalim, the government, army, local police and what not is filled and full of Sunnis, Christians, Druze and others..

Bahrain: not a single Shia is appointed to anything, not even a local police.

Saddam's Iraq: all the government was controlled by murtad-Saddam and his family from Tikrit with the exception of Tariq Aziz (a Christian) who was Mr. nobody anyways.

After Saddam, and before Saddam, Shia scholars called all Sunnis their brothers and freedom for all.. including Ayt. Sistani the powerful Shia scholar in the world.

While in Syria the opposition (all of them including the moderates) called for mass-murdering the entire Shias, Alawites, Christians, Druze and what not. Called for destruction of the entire Syrian history and they did destroy them and massacred ppl once they took control over any province. While in Iraq it was again the Saddamists and ISIS who declared sectarian war even though they were the very tiny minority.

In Syria more than 80,000 foreign fighters (non-Syrians) entered for Jihad and beheaded locals including tens of thousands of Sunni soldiers, police, and Sunni civilians..

Where in Bahrain we did not see a single pistol or a 'single' non-Bahraini Shia that entered for Jihad and same with Iraq.

You just close your eyes and compare things and say things that makes you look like a fool, nothing else.... all the Sunni-extremist logic and reasons! You can destroy the world, massacre ppl from Libya to Afghanistan, oppress ppl for centuries from Saudi to Pakistan, and at the end of the day others blamed for supporting Baathist Assad against a bunch of criminal, gangs, Zionist paid terrorists, and groups like ISIS, Nusra, Jaishul Islam and all other sh...tt.... I never supported Assad and I did not care for him much, just like Sisi, or Gaddafi, or Abdullah Saleh.. but in this war that started back in 2011, any sane person should and MUST wish that he wins against mass-murderers, criminals, Wahabi-terrorists who has nothing except declaring death and destruction of the world and what not...

I hope all the rebels (monster terrorists) and all those who support them in their war  in Syria will be cooked by Assad and all his allies.

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If you are more worried and concerned about an Assad airbase being bombed then civilians being gassed, bombed and slaughtered as demonstrated over the last 7 years, you need to have a long hard look at yourself.

Think of that as you viciously self flagellate during Matam at an ancient atrocity and how your willing to overlook and support the tyrant of your time today simple because of sectarian bias. How the alleged tyrant of that ancient time also had people in his ranks like you justifying his acts and denying his atrocities like you are....

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11 hours ago, Silas said:

BOTH America AND Russia want to control major areas of the Middle-East

Don't trade the devil you know with the devil you don't know. Putin's efforts against the Jihadists are simply to keep them away from his naval base in Syria --he doesn't care about what happens to the victims of ISIS. He might be concerned if fundamentalist violence were to spill over into Russia, but that is about it.

He isn't some kind of ally, and he isn't reliable. 

Hi it has a story in shia history that during Abbasides ,Sheikh Tusi (ra)  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaykh_Tusi  used Timur forces https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timur  to destroy them.

http://en.wikishia.net/view/Al-Shaykh_al-Tusi

https://www.al-islam.org/person/shaykh-tusi

http://www.iric.org/tabid/112/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/411/Biography-of-Shiekh-Tusi.aspx

http://www.shiavault.com/books/portraits-of-youths-in-quran-and-the-history-of-islam/chapters/42-shaykh-tusi

Sheikh Tusi biography

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1 hour ago, JermainTaylor said:

If you are more worried and concerned about an Assad airbase being bombed then civilians being gassed, bombed and slaughtered as demonstrated over the last 7 years, you need to have a long hard look at yourself.

Think of that as you viciously self flagellate during Matam at an ancient atrocity and how your willing to overlook and support the tyrant of your time today simple because of sectarian bias. How the alleged tyrant of that ancient time also had people in his ranks like you justifying his acts and denying his atrocities like you are....

Salam some people are martyred ,if you care about them & among them are Iranians that I think, it will make you happy.:angry:

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16 hours ago, Silas said:

 

This is Putin's long game: after Syria and Iran become virtual puppet states of Russia, he then rolls the tanks into those nations. The US won't respond, because Iran and Syria are technically "enemies" of the west (propaganda). The UN will protest, but no action will be taken, and the Iranian people will then have to live under the boot of a violent, expansionist, nuclear power. Russia will corner the world's oil market, gain permanent access to ports in the Persian Gulf and Mediterranean Sea. 

One thing is pretty clear. Assad didn't know about this CW attack --but Putin isn't asking Assad for permission to do anything. 

Iran is working with a guy who is literally the Devil (engages in terrorism abroad by poisoning people with nerve gas and Polonium, invades his neighbors, throws political dissidents into prison, makes people vanish ...), and it will suffer the same fate that Austria and Hungary did in WWII -annexation by force.

Although I don't trust Putin and don't think he is a 'good guy', I also disagree that this is his ultimate objective. He is a realist, he knows that Russia has never been able to conquer Iran(although they have tried many times) even at the height of the power of the Soviet Union. Also, none of the Arabic countries have been physically occupied by Russia, in modern history, or I think ever. Putin would like the expand the 'sphere of influence' of Russia in this area, and I think he has already done that, at least in Syria. But he knows that if he pushes it too far it will backfire on him as has happened with past Russian leaders. 

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28 minutes ago, Abu Hadi said:

Although I don't trust Putin and don't think he is a 'good guy', I also disagree that this is his ultimate objective. He is a realist, he knows that Russia has never been able to conquer Iran(although they have tried many times) even at the height of the power of the Soviet Union. Also, none of the Arabic countries have been physically occupied by Russia, in modern history, or I think ever. Putin would like the expand the 'sphere of influence' of Russia in this area, and I think he has already done that, at least in Syria. But he knows that if he pushes it too far it will backfire on him as has happened with past Russian leaders. 

Even fifty years ago in Russian history class, Russia has always looked to Persia as an outlet/seaport to the lndian Ocean. Iran granted them access last year. So why conquer?

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Fake News: the Water Hoses

So the BBC is again running the staged videos of White Helmets hosing down people who have been 'victims' of the alleged chemical attack.

Wait !   What is wrong here?  Water pressure in a war zone?

So, looking up some info:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wazGRAE0rlw   dated 22October17.  Please note at 43" that this contaminated water -from a pump- is unsafe to bathe in.

And from last year, https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/03/syria-jets-deliberately-hit-damascus-water-supply-170314110322695.html date 14March17

So how do these White Helmets have uncontaminated water under pressure?

Another report l read-over, Medicins sans Frontiers, said there is no chlorine for what water they can get.

Search Terms Used: "water supply" + eastern Ghouta

 

Edited by hasanhh

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13 hours ago, Sumerian said:

Trump will make a decision on striking Syria in the next 48 hours. Reports of US battleships moving closer to Syrian mainland. 

Watch WW3 unfold based on white helmets biased reports and a clown in charge of the US.

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49 minutes ago, IbnSina said:

Watch WW3 unfold based on white helmets biased reports and a clown in charge of the US.

could be.. to those that think russia is evil...russia is actually the only reason the west havent launched a full scale attack on syria yet. the same media that demonizes Assad demonizes Putin.. hes been accussed of everything until now, as usual with no proof. RT launches an investigation and asks questions.. no one wants to answer... they put their fingers in their ears and wail like little kids "putin is a monster" 

the russian poisoning case makes as much sense as the chemical attack.. 

 

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1 hour ago, IbnSina said:

Watch WW3 unfold based on white helmets biased reports and a clown in charge of the US.

I doubt it. US will not deliberately launch WW3(it could happen by accident though) as long as government is still stable and economy is still good. Besides Trump, who will probably be gone in a few months or at most a year, both these things are still true. Something like WW3 would be such a catastrophic event, the US Govt knows that they are just as much at risk from this of losing their power as Iran is. They want to keep things at a steady state, interrupted by catastrophes that they can control.  Maybe a few missiles will be launched, like last time, then it will be over. But I might be wrong, we'll have to wait and see. 

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Easy now. West say Assad most likely  lounched the chemical attac. Russia and Assad say Jaish al Islam did this, or they faked an attac. So far nothing has been prooved. Russia has now agreed that OPCW will investigate. Maybe this will clear things up.

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2 hours ago, hasanhh said:

ven fifty years ago in Russian history class, Russia has always looked to Persia as an outlet/seaport to the lndian Ocean. Iran granted them access last year. So why conquer

Russians prefer brute force to politics at that time Britain was controlling south of Iran for supporting their territory at India so they were trying to avoid conflict with each other.

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I don't think Assad launched the CW attack. It makes no sense for him to do it.

The possibilities include

1. The rebels staging the attack to force US and UN involvement in Syria

2. Israel engineering the attack in an effort to get the US to remove Assad

3. Putin ordering the attack through his proxies to force a US response in order to convince countries in the region that they need "Russian Protection"

 

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