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Another False Flag Chemical Attack In Syria

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Times the US and Israel have disagreed;

1956- The US forced Israel to withdraw when it attacked Egypt with the help of Britain and France.

1970's OPEC crisis- At the time the Shah's Iran and Israel were close allies, the Saudis and the other Arab states were not so much. The US made a deal with Saudi Arabia where if the Saudis sold all their oil in dollars, and then deposited the proceeds in US bond markets, the US would guarantee Saudi security even against Israel. 

1980's- Iran/Iraq war, when Saddam fired scud missiles at Israel, the US prevented Israel from attacking because they had more of an interest in Iraq winning that war, Israel not so much. Israel on the other hand convinced the US not to impose harsher sanctions on Iran, because they felt it would've impeded Iran and helped Iraq.

2015- The JCPOA, which the US will now probably pull-out of because of this crazy administration, but most of the US government barring a few crazy republican senators like Cruz and Cotton is against pulling out of it even though Israel wants this. 

Israel has also wanted the US to do way more than it has done in Syria to contain Iran, there's no real US willingness to do so, they've been willing to fire few missiles at Assad, train fundamentalists and arm them but nothing beyond that, 2000 special ops forces is not going to contain Iran, Israel would love the US to do more and get more directly militarily entrenched, but it simply hasn't and I really doubt it is going to.

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The reason the US has not attacked yet is because Russia and now Iran just stood up and said "try it". 

Again you all are missing the main reason the USA is in Syria. We have established that it does not care about the Syrian people nor democracy... The oil theory is really dumb. They have all the oil in the world. You are admitting that it doesn't want Iranian influence in Syria... so how does Bashar al Assad or Iranian influence in Syria harm the USA as a country? It doesn't. These pose absolutely no threat to the USA. Bashar is not going to invade North Carolina. However this is a big threat to Israel, so the USA's actions in the middle east are serving Israel.. can it be any clearer than this? 

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28 minutes ago, kirtc said:

The reason the US has not attacked yet is because Russia and now Iran just stood up and said "try it". 

Again you all are missing the main reason the USA is in Syria. We have established that it does not care about the Syrian people nor democracy... The oil theory is really dumb. They have all the oil in the world. You are admitting that it doesn't want Iranian influence in Syria... so how does Bashar al Assad or Iranian influence in Syria harm the USA as a country? It doesn't. These pose absolutely no threat to the USA. Bashar is not going to invade North Carolina. However this is a big threat to Israel, so the USA's actions in the middle east are serving Israel.. can it be any clearer than this? 

You seem quite ignorant of US foreign policy.  Not a single credible person in the Pentagon believes Iran/Syria are a military threat to the US, they have published official studies admitting this much.

What the US is primarily concerned with is its sphere of influence and control.  Iran is a direct threat to US control in the middle east and has been for decades due to its loud defiance against US imperialism.  Israel is the most trust worthy ally in exerting this influence and Saudi Arabia is second so the US will goto lengths to support both these regimes.  Israel is basically the main US military base in that region.  Do Zionists have a say in US foreign policy?  Of course they do, but Israeli interest does not supersede US state/business interests, they just happen to mostly align.  As far as Syria is concerned, the US is opposed to nationalist independence, their whole foreign policy is designed to prevent it.  This is especially true if the state in question is allying with Iran/Russia. 

Edited by King

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41 minutes ago, kirtc said:

However this is a big threat to Israel, so the USA's actions in the middle east are serving Israel.. can it be any clearer than this? 

Israel collaborates with the US to be the regional hegemon though. This alliance goes back to 1967 when Israel proved to the US that it would be an important partner in containing and crushing Arab nationalism, which was closely allied with the Soviet union. In the 6-day war Israel defeated Egypt and Syria (both very close allies of the Soviet Union), so the US increasingly saw them as a military garrison in the region that they could use to fulfill their own interest without having to commit their own troops there. Just like Iran is no threat to the US, neither was Vietnam, nor is Cuba. Look at US policy since WW2, especially in Southeast Asia and Latin America, all the countries they invaded, governments they toppled, "rebels" they backed had to do with containing the Soviet Union, because it hindered US ability to control resources all over the world. They don't necessarily need those resources, just like they don't need middle eastern oil, but being in control of it allows you to be in a position of power, where you can determine oil prices. Why did they throw Saddam out of Kuwait? Because it was feared he might attack Saudi next and the thought of the US or one of its allies not being in control of oil production, which would impact wallstreet's profits was something they could not tolerate. Why did the CIA overthrow Lumumba in the DRC? Because the DRC has a vital resource, Cobalt which is used in every electronic device, and the ability to obtain this cheaply was important, on the other hand, a leader that would not sell-out his country to a foreign corporation could not be tolerated. 

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EGas attack propaganda

opinions

Evidence of False Flag

The plan to break up Syria (yellow flags)

Exposing lies about Syria

Lies of media

They don’t care about us ‘true white helmets agenda’

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@kirtc  Assad had all his chemicals surrendered to the OPCW which destroyed them aboard an off-shore ship. The UN after politically motivated delays said the first chemical attacks were done by rebels/opposition groups, who had captured chemicals from abandoned bases.

Which we already knew and posted somewhere on SC.

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19 minutes ago, Abbas0 said:

The strikes started in Syria officially by the US UK and France tonight 

:cry: Innaa lillahi Wa Innaa Ilayhi Raaji'oon. 

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Currently watching RT news - they have an interview with a doctor who has been identified in the hospital video used as 'evidence' and he refutes that it was a chemical attack.

It doesn't appear the US and allies had UN security council approval either - still trying to find more details to confirm this though and also about the chemical weapons investigation team that wasn't able to properly verify on the ground.

That would reveal it as an illegal attack according to international law and sovereignty as an act of war, based on unverified and nonfactual allegations.

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2 hours ago, TheGreenWanderer said:

Currently watching RT news - they have an interview with a doctor who has been identified in the hospital video used as 'evidence' and he refutes that it was a chemical attack.

It doesn't appear the US and allies had UN security council approval either - still trying to find more details to confirm this though and also about the chemical weapons investigation team that wasn't able to properly verify on the ground.

That would reveal it as an illegal attack according to international law and sovereignty as an act of war, based on unverified and nonfactual allegations.

its all a set up from a-z the people who gave the order for the chemical attack are the same people who gave the order for the air strike 

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We didn’t see  any patients with symptoms chemical’s attack hospital staff in Russian MoD video

https://youtu.be/sBmWe5FnSCc

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According to our sources, not western, 120-140 missiles were fired, over 70 of them were shot down. They didn't hit anything "significant" in the big picture of things. I guess the S-300 works like a charm. 

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2 hours ago, JermainTaylor said:

Check out @damuskus_’s Tweet:

Pfft this Sara is a reptilian NWO agent wahabi zionist trying to slander the name of the glorious Bashar...

hahahahaha... its ridiculous how you believe the dumbest stuff ever and call the truth lies..

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On 4/12/2018 at 12:11 PM, King said:

There has been countless times US national interests have conflicted with what Israel wants and the US government has told Israel to back off.  It just so happens that most of the time their interests align.  A strong Israel in the middle east is very critical to US for all kinds of strategic reasons and it isn't just because of the Israel lobby.  Nasrallah is correct. 

I believe its more like US draws the red line for the Israel and Israel for the US. But Israel has shown time and again that it does not care about the American red line. US on the other hand has been very accommodating. 

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Robert Fisk can't find any Doumians who experienced the gas attack:

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How could it be that Douma refugees who had reached camps in Turkey were already describing a gas attack which no-one in Douma today seemed to recall? 

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/syria-chemical-attack-gas-douma-robert-fisk-ghouta-damascus-a8307726.html

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21 minutes ago, Mansur Bakhtiari said:

I doubt the USA will go any further than these useless strikes because a full on war won't get Trump back in office.

But I am expecting him to do something stupid, or as he considers it 'statesman-like', nearer re-election time.

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On 4/20/2018 at 6:16 AM, Ashvazdanghe said:

The place of ‘Chemical Attack’ in Syria

https://youtu.be/y0pnzxOhr6o

The description under the video explains that the 'victims' of the 'chemical attack' were inside the hospital and getting water poured on their body. None of the people in the emergency room were wearing protective gear. Apparently the 'victims' were not suffering from 'chemical attack.' 

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Press TV correspondent Mohamad Ali has taken a tour of Duma hospital in Eastern Ghouta, the place of a ‘chemical attack’ that was the pretext of US, UK, and France airstrikes on Syria.

The comments by youtube viewers show that they agree the 'chemical attack' was a hoax, a justification for a military attack against the Syrian government. 

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Journalists find boy filmed in Douma chemical attack video

They Gave dates & cookies to children at Douma hospital

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How could anybody claim that an attack happened or not when the investigation is not over yet?

Honestly, I only bother with the reports of UN, independent organisations and (although to a far less degree) BBC news when it comes to controversial matters.  

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On 22/04/2018 at 2:27 AM, Hameedeh said:

The description under the video explains that the 'victims' of the 'chemical attack' were inside the hospital and getting water poured on their body. None of the people in the emergency room were wearing protective gear. Apparently the 'victims' were not suffering from 'chemical attack.' 

The comments by youtube viewers show that they agree the 'chemical attack' was a hoax, a justification for a military attack against the Syrian government. 

I wouldn't take base my information from a single video and its comments if I were you. The photographs and videos overall indicate that a chemical attack happened without a doubt as said by many experts. 

The question should be: Are they trustworthy? We don't know. Which is why there is an investigation now in Syria by an independent organisation. 

Someone quoted a video where a boy claims no attack happened. The issue is we have many other reports (e.g., eyewitnesses, photographs, videos etc.) that state or indicate otherwise.

Edited by Mark Enlightment

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25Apr18

l was watching another rerun of this last, alleged chlorine gas attack and wondered: What is in those inhalers?

l found that "generic" inhalers have albuterol sulfate, NaCI and H2SO4 as their primary ingredients.

So the White Helmets are adding an acid to lung tissue where hypochlorous acid is already present?  :ranting:"Errrrr....."

And children are more susceptible than adults.

Goto "Prehospital Management" and "Emergency Department Management" in https://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/mmg/mmg.asp?id=198&tid=36  and in both places, use of "bronchial sensitizing agents" create addition hazards.

And SC has another point of identifiable political fraud.

Postings like this is when l really miss @starlight.

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On 4/9/2018 at 10:06 PM, Silas said:

BOTH America AND Russia want to control major areas of the Middle-East

Don't trade the devil you know with the devil you don't know. Putin's efforts against the Jihadists are simply to keep them away from his naval base in Syria --he doesn't care about what happens to the victims of ISIS. He might be concerned if fundamentalist violence were to spill over into Russia, but that is about it.

He isn't some kind of ally, and he isn't reliable. 

I'm not arguing against you. Actually, I agree that every country looks out only for its own interest. Such is the way the world currently works.

I agree that people need to be wary of Russia's true intentions. However, at the moment at least, Russia looks a bit better than the USA.

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1 hour ago, Abu Hadi said:

White helmets evacuated to Israel

Pretty much tells you everything you need to know about this group

I think they will use them with  new title to attack Syria again.

Israel evacuates 422 white helmets and families as Syrian Army advances

 

Edited by Ashvazdanghe

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Israeli medicine found in militant field hospital in Quneitra / Pics

http://en.abna24.com/news/middle-east/israeli-medicine-found-in-militant-field-hospital-in-quneitra-pics_902794.html

July 23, 2018 - 7:46 PM News Code : 902794 Source : SANALink: 
Israeli medicine found in militant field hospital in Quneitra / Pics
 

Syrian authorities discovered a medicine depot and a field hospital left behind by terrorists in Nabaa al-Sakhar town, about 16 km to the southeast of Quneitra city. 

AhlulBayt News Agency (ABNA): Syrian authorities discovered a medicine depot and a field hospital left behind by terrorists in Nabaa al-Sakhar town, about 16 km to the southeast of Quneitra city. 

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