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Another False Flag Chemical Attack In Syria

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1 hour ago, IbnSina said:

Watch WW3 unfold based on white helmets biased reports and a clown in charge of the US.

I doubt it. US will not deliberately launch WW3(it could happen by accident though) as long as government is still stable and economy is still good. Besides Trump, who will probably be gone in a few months or at most a year, both these things are still true. Something like WW3 would be such a catastrophic event, the US Govt knows that they are just as much at risk from this of losing their power as Iran is. They want to keep things at a steady state, interrupted by catastrophes that they can control.  Maybe a few missiles will be launched, like last time, then it will be over. But I might be wrong, we'll have to wait and see. 

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Easy now. West say Assad most likely  lounched the chemical attac. Russia and Assad say Jaish al Islam did this, or they faked an attac. So far nothing has been prooved. Russia has now agreed that OPCW will investigate. Maybe this will clear things up.

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2 hours ago, hasanhh said:

ven fifty years ago in Russian history class, Russia has always looked to Persia as an outlet/seaport to the lndian Ocean. Iran granted them access last year. So why conquer

Russians prefer brute force to politics at that time Britain was controlling south of Iran for supporting their territory at India so they were trying to avoid conflict with each other.

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I don't think Assad launched the CW attack. It makes no sense for him to do it.

The possibilities include

1. The rebels staging the attack to force US and UN involvement in Syria

2. Israel engineering the attack in an effort to get the US to remove Assad

3. Putin ordering the attack through his proxies to force a US response in order to convince countries in the region that they need "Russian Protection"

 

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18 hours ago, kirtc said:

he aint the only one sadly.. there are more shias than I hoped that parrot zio news narratives.

It does not have anything to do with being shia or sunni or secular or.....guatemalan ....its about sanity and humanity....about the lives of millions and wellbeing of 100s of millions....so that super rich people take home bigger paychecks and bonuses.....while dingos and experts and anonymous sources perform their little ritualistic dances of righteousness and escape from burdens of being fools. 

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18 hours ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

Salam in case of Russian policy we must act with high caution because Putin  acts based on Russia interest not shia Islam totally fortunately their interest currently same as us.

I firmly believe that Iran is what is right with ME and Putin what is right with international relations..... 

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A word from Ron Paul regarding this event:

http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/04/10/558006/Neocons-not-Assad-behind-suspected-chemical-attack-Ron-Paul

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"Former US Congressman and political analyst Ron Paul says the claim that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad "is gassing his own people is a total nonsense,” adding that the American neoconservatives, who want a perpetual war in the Middle East, are probably behind the recent chemical weapons attack in Syria."

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17 hours ago, IbnSina said:

Watch WW3 unfold based on white helmets biased reports and a clown in charge of the US.

NHK (Japan) mid-day, 11April18   Pres Macron of France met with KSA Prince Salam on Tueday(the 10th). France says it will intervene in Syria after further consultation with UK and USA.

NHK reported that it is said KSA will provide support for this operation, although there was no 'official' confirmation of this.

l haven't check the web yet.

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clarifying

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Some Quick Readings from the Past, which applies to Current Events:

l couldn't find comparable images to the alleged canister of gas in today's (10-11April2018) news.

https://www.csmonitor.com/1982/0910/091078.html     --CCCP(Soviet) use of poison gases in Afghanistan.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-22307705 

http://chemicalweapons.cenmag.org/when-chemicals-became-weapons-of-war/   WW1, Fritz Harber, incredulity of German General Staff.

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On 4/11/2018 at 7:01 AM, Abu Hadi said:

Salam, 

It is possible. I have said this many times before, Israel will not accept defeat in Syria. They have way too much to lose. I don't know if you followed my posts before, but I was saying the Syrian war is actually specifically about not letting s-400 and s-300s reach Syria and Lebanon, because it will immensely remove the advantage Israel had in the past century of an unstoppable Airforce. This is their biggest fear and imo the reason of the Syrian war in essence. The "revolution" in Syria was not organic nor natural. It was cooked up in a lab and money was spent to get people moving. I know, I was working with them. Saudi money was buying weapons and hate long before it started in north Lebanon. 

Anyway, when the big guys like Sayyed Hassan and Imam Khamanei say that we are close to the time, I am not surprised that this might happen. We have been expecting a war this year, and actually some were saying that there was going to be a war this month between Israel and Lebanon, other saying it would be with Saudi. We have elections in 1 month and for the first time Lebanon might be ruled by parties that swing to the Iranian side which also is a big blow to the zionists. But they will not let it pass. 

Now on a more mystical note, there are many hadiths about the sufyani taking over damascus before the reappearance. All the hadith specifically mention it will happen on Rajab. But I dont see that happening this Rajab. 

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3 minutes ago, kirtc said:

Salam, 

It is possible. I have said this many times before, Israel will not accept defeat in Syria. They have way too much to lose. ...

l do not see or imagine what lsraeI has to gain by allowing the US to order them into this mess, nor what lsraeI has to "lose" by the status quo.

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On 4/11/2018 at 7:28 AM, hasanhh said:

l do not see or imagine what lsraeI has to gain by allowing the US to order them into this mess, nor what lsraeI has to "lose" by the status quo.

I cannot understand how you do not see that every action the USA does is actually done for Israel. How you fail to recognize that the people pulling the strings are all zionists. You think Trump makes decisions? He follows scripts given to him. Who writes the scripts? Why is USA in Syria? Why... is USA... in Syria? Why are they not in Uganda, Nigeria, Philippines... all have dictators. Nigerian boko haram kidnapped a whole school,, killing thousands.. did we see the USA send one commando to Nigeria? So why Syria? Have you not noticed everything the USA has done in the past 50 years is for the security and defense of Israel? Why do they hate Iran? What has Iran done to the USA? Name one attack from Iran to the USA? The USA is against Iran simply because Iran is against Israel. If the Israeli loving shah was still in power the USA would have no problem with Iran. Honestly me having to explain this to you feels to me like I have to talk to you like a small kid. These things are beyond obvious. 

What does Israel have to lose??? 

Do you think Israel doesnt know there will be a future war with Hizbullah and Iran? In the past decades Israel would just fly over, bomb us.. and smile.. and there was not a damn thing we can do about it.. They bombed Lebanese bridges, power plants, runways... every 2 or 3 years they would fly over, bomb a power plant, and just go... any UN resolutions? any International condemnation? none... we couldnt do anything. No air defense, no political leverage. Until today we suffer from, daily power cuts. But one thing Israel cannot do is attack us on land. in 2006 1 Hizbullah soldier alone took out 17 merkava tanks. He is a martyr now. Sounds fake yea, well what do you think we mean by there were miracles in the 2006 war. The Israelis pounded us with airstrikes for 1 month and then decided to do a land offensive. They couldn't pass an inch, suffered heavy losses and stopped the war. Now. if you go back just before the Syrian war, USA and Israel were trying to pressure Russia into not selling S-300s to Iran.. Russia held off at first and then decided to give Iran the S-300s... not a year later this mess started .Could it not be that Zionists realized the s-300s could be transferred from Iran to Hizbullah? Through where? the only land bridge is Syria... Would that not explain every time the terrorists suffered a loss in Syria, like madmen Israelis would bomb convoys and military caches in Syria? Do you not see how they are foaming at the mouths. The have enslaved the Saudis to send Isis and it failed. Now they are thinking of a plan B. This is plan B.

Did you not hear Sheikh Bhajat and AYt Khamanei say that Israel will be gone in the next decade? Do you not think we are in the time of the reappearance? How long do you think it is? How long do you think you can live in a world where a school teacher gets sued for a calling a boy "him". lol That is my own example. How long bro do you think it is before his reappearance?

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33 minutes ago, hasanhh said:

l do not see or imagine what lsraeI has to gain by allowing the US to order them into this mess, nor what lsraeI has to "lose" by the status quo.

Sorry I drifted... Israel is sending in all their slaves to fight their wars for them. But you dont even recognize that zionists control the world... I remember our early debates where you would just make fun of me because I would mention freemasons and illuminati.. I call them zionists, but they exist and they control every politician and business man in the west. And they work directly to bringing the dajjal's rule on earth(NWO). and so far they have done a pretty damn good job with so many shias here completely blind to their deception.

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Israel is trying to bait Iran to use Hezb in Lebanon to attack them so that they can have that same excuse and mantra of having to invade lebanon again like they did in 2006 when two of their soldiers were trespassing  and captured in Lebanon and what followed was a full scale war. 

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On 4/11/2018 at 7:56 AM, kirtc said:

I cannot understand how you do not see that every action the USA does is actually done for Israel. How you fail to recognize that the people pulling the strings are all ... (correction) Amerikan.

Sorry bro, you have it backwards.

When Likud was formed in '67 or '68, even in the papers -not just the universities where profs and ex-grad students who worked in gov't(State, CIA, etc)-- people knew it was a US gov't party even despite the Brooking's Institution links. An example? 1992. The Likud Party was promptly pushed to near extinction -down to 12 members- when the US "disciplined" it for "not keeping things under control" ( as Brzezinski and James Baker lll where laughing about on TV after Rabin was elected years later).

Few lsraeIi leaders have taken their own course when possible --such as Peres and Barak.

The US itself pushed the political myth you subscribe to as well as Zionism/lsraeI being the excuse for all the other countries problems.

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2 minutes ago, hasanhh said:

Sorry bro, you have it backwards.

When Likud was formed in '67 or '68, even in the papers -not just the universities where profs and ex-grad students who worked in gov't(State, CIA, etc)-- people knew it was a US gov't party even despite the Brooking's Institution links. An example? 1992. The Likud Party was promptly pushed to near extinction -down to 12 members- when the US "disciplined" it for "not keeping things under control" ( as Brzezinski and James Baker lll where laughing about on TV after Rabin was elected years later).

Few lsraeIi leaders have taken their own course when possible --such as Peres and Barak.

The US itself pushed the political myth you subscribe to as well as Zionism/lsraeI being the excuse for all the other countries problems.

well you didnt answer my question... why is the USA in Syria? Why not bring democracy to Jordan or Saudi? Why not fight boko haram in Nigeria?

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19 hours ago, kirtc said:

well you didnt answer my question... why is the USA in Syria? Why not bring democracy to Jordan or Saudi? Why not fight boko haram in Nigeria?

Obomba signed-off on that pipeline war. Trump is now dealing with the 'clean-up'.

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The sufyani is very near which means the imam is even closer! All that’s left is the zilzal(which is probably going to happen now if these countries attack) and the wall of the masjid to collapse!

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On 4/11/2018 at 7:01 AM, Abu Hadi said:

Why ?

As usual again and again (*), intelligent is not used, and the intelligent human does not have capability to know (insight and foresight) the situation on earth because the stupid human control the world with  their wishy washy wishful thinking to possess/take a grip on all world resources. So, human destruction is this stupid human responsibility, may be the one who is scared is the one who is in between stupid and inteligent human.:D

(*) I used to ask my friend what is different between human and animal ? I answer : Animal never fall/trap to the same hole but human do it again and again.

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Your arguments are so irrelevant and useless! While you people try and use your stupid biased brains, people are going to die by the thousands in this coming war! It’s time for all of us dumb Arabs, to unite don’t you think? I swear the world has a right to laugh at us Arabs because while we’re waiting for the imam to rise, all the Arab countries are going to war with each other... we actually deserve this.. bcuz we stand against each other instead of together.. sunnis vs Shias is just another victory for the world... the truth is, yes I believe the imam was born alrdy and will rise again and he’s the 12th imam.. but that doesn’t mean just bcuz I believe that, I should be killed or constantly in verbal fights (even online), bcuz of my belief.. if we put this drama behind us, there’s no telling what we’d achieve as a whole!!! 

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19 hours ago, kirtc said:

@hasanhh

at 0:14 is your answer from an american senator.

A who?

When SC was discussing "Future of the lran Deal", this 36 minute video was posted: 

In this she discusses lsraeI, the Brooking's Institution and other reasons why the professed support for lsraeI is a "cornerstone of Amerikan foreign policy".

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14 minutes ago, Abbas0 said:

Your arguments are so irrelevant and useless! While you people try and use your stupid biased brains, people are going to die by the thousands in this coming war! It’s time for all of us dumb Arabs, to unite don’t you think? I swear the world has a right to laugh at us Arabs because while we’re waiting for the imam to rise, all the Arab countries are going to war with each other... we actually deserve this.. bcuz we stand against each other instead of together.. sunnis vs Shias is just another victory for the world... the truth is, yes I believe the imam was born alrdy and will rise again and he’s the 12th imam.. but that doesn’t mean just bcuz I believe that, I should be killed or constantly in verbal fights (even online), bcuz of my belief.. if we put this drama behind us, there’s no telling what we’d achieve as a whole!!! 

It is better people using their stupid biased brains than people who never use their smart,intelligent unbiased brain.

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On 4/10/2018 at 7:58 PM, IbnSina said:

A word from Ron Paul regarding this event:

http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/04/10/558006/Neocons-not-Assad-behind-suspected-chemical-attack-Ron-Paul

"Former US Congressman and political analyst Ron Paul says the claim that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad "is gassing his own people is a total nonsense,” adding that the American neoconservatives, who want a perpetual war in the Middle East, are probably behind the recent chemical weapons attack in Syria."

"total nonsense" ?

Wed,11Apr18 PBS News Hour posted that Syria has 13+million "displaced persons"(people fleeing lS, et alii) and 6+ million refuges in other countries.

There is also well over a Million Dead. The population of Syria was ~18.4 Million.

Which raises the question: Who are they gassing?

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On 4/11/2018 at 8:00 AM, kirtc said:

Sorry I drifted... Israel is sending in all their slaves to fight their wars for them. But you dont even recognize that zionists control the world... I remember our early debates where you would just make fun of me because I would mention freemasons and illuminati.. I call them zionists, but they exist and they control every politician and business man in the west. And they work directly to bringing the dajjal's rule on earth(NWO). and so far they have done a pretty damn good job with so many shias here completely blind to their deception.

You believe Sayyed Hasan Nasrallah right?

Go to 1:50

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On 4/11/2018 at 7:01 AM, Abu Hadi said:

The US seems to be backed by many countries, such as Israel, France, UK, etc.
However, Iran has also vowed to stand with Syria, and Russia will also take this stance.

I'm sure the 'chemical' bomb isn't the main reason for this conflict. Trump is very eager about attacking Assad though, as he's made clear on his Twitter page. It is also obvious that he is threatening Russia with this immature tweet.

"Russia vows to shoot down any and all missiles fired at Syria. Get ready Russia, because they will be coming, nice and new and “smart!” You shouldn’t be partners with a Gas Killing Animal who kills his people and enjoys it!"

3:57 AM - 11 Apr 2018

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3 hours ago, hasanhh said:

"total nonsense" ?

Wed,11Apr18 PBS News Hour posted that Syria has 13+million "displaced persons"(people fleeing lS, et alii) and 6+ million refuges in other countries.

There is also well over a Million Dead. The population of Syria was ~18.4 Million.

Which raises the question: Who are they gassing?

There are refugees because there is war and chaos, it does not mean that the government are gassing their citizen. As you remember daesh(la) was ravaging the lands for years.

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On 4/12/2018 at 4:39 AM, Sumerian said:

You believe Sayyed Hasan Nasrallah right?

Go to 1:50

I disagree with the Sayyed on this... but we cpuld say the zionist lobby in the USA controls America for the defense of Israel. But it is 100% all about Israel.

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4 hours ago, kirtc said:

I disagree with the Sayyed on this... but we cpuld say the zionist lobby in the USA controls America for the defense of Israel. But it is 100% all about Israel.

There has been countless times US national interests have conflicted with what Israel wants and the US government has told Israel to back off.  It just so happens that most of the time their interests align.  A strong Israel in the middle east is very critical to US for all kinds of strategic reasons and it isn't just because of the Israel lobby.  Nasrallah is correct. 

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