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Another False Flag Chemical Attack In Syria

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0600 GMT   US denies it executed a missile strike on the Syrian gov't airbase at Homs.

Homs is on the French invasion route into Syria.

As yet, no reports on who is claiming responsibility.

Guess who?

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8 hours ago, kirtc said:

if Sayyed Khamanei or Sayyed Hassan told me, then I would believe it. only people I trust.

Hahaha

This is exactly what I meant when I said many of the pro Assad shi'ite contingent cannot be reasoned with! How can any reasonable person debate someone of this mindset?

"Its all conspiricies brooo. Watch da Arrivals on youuutube enet! The freemasons are behind it fam"

Pathetic

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1 hour ago, JermainTaylor said:

Hahaha

This is exactly what I meant when I said many of the pro Assad shi'ite contingent cannot be reasoned with! How can any reasonable person debate someone of this mindset?

"Its all conspiricies brooo. Watch da Arrivals on youuutube enet! The freemasons are behind it fam"

Pathetic

fear leads to hate, hate leads to anger..

im sorry you have no leaders to look up to.. actually its your own fault you are so lost.. God opens the eyes of who he wills.. 

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Observing it with a skeptical perspective, it would definitely give US/Nato a justifiable option under United Nations R2P (Responsibility to Protect), which they have abused (e.g. Libya - when R2P allows only peacekeeping forces under humanitarian intervention when a group of people are facing genocide, mass murder, or similar reasons, instead Nato abused it for regime change with pushed military power and arming rebels). The US I think are on a monopoly of attempted regime changes at the moment - now that the situation is becoming more stable in Syria and they didn't get that regime change with Assad, the 'convenient incident' of a chemical weapons attack would open more possibilities for them.

 

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7 minutes ago, TheGreenWanderer said:

Observing it with a skeptical perspective, it would definitely give US/Nato a justifiable option under United Nations R2P (Responsibility to Protect), which they have abused (e.g. Libya - when R2P allows only peacekeeping forces under humanitarian intervention when a group of people are facing genocide, mass murder, or similar reasons, instead Nato abused it for regime change with pushed military power and arming rebels). The US I think are on a monopoly of attempted regime changes at the moment - now that the situation is becoming more stable in Syria and they didn't get that regime change with Assad, the 'convenient incident' of a chemical weapons attack would open more possibilities for them.

 

I think actually the chemical attack after statement of US soldier leaving Syria (for example news https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-syria-toops-u-s-leaving-very-soon/) does not give alibi for US attacking Syria with chemical weapon, but give the reason (to people who do not understand of what happening in Syria) that there are certain entity who do it which is control or uncontrol by US government. The possibility of chemical attack is not militarily timely proper by Syrian Army as human pursues who are the perpetrator.

 

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8 hours ago, Qa'im said:

Unf,,,,

First question:

Disregarding previous battles, would you say with regarding to Douma and the actual situation surrounding Douma, it is reasonable to think that the government had to use CW in this instance?

Second question:

When many respected scholars, such as seyyed Nasrullah and seyyed Khamenei do not condemn the government for the use of chemical weapons, but even further than that, deny the accusations. Would you say that they are ignorant and corrupt? 

They, unlike you behind a screen, have people working for them on the ground in Syria that directly report to them with actual eye witness information. Do you think such details that journalist "Eliot Higgins" in the UK give are more accurate and truthful or the details given by the respected leader of Hizbollah and one of the most respect and major marjas in the world ayatollah Khamenei that they get from their soldiers and intelligence services on the ground who have fear for Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى?

Third question:

Where do you think I, as an individual, should rank your opinion in the instance that it is opposite to their opinion? Or rather, what kind of merits do you have of geopolitical matters and warfare in general that would override the truthfulness and the fear of Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى of these leaders and disqualify their statements?

 

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Also interesting to observe, for those who care to observe:

https://www.jta.org/2018/04/01/news-opinion/us-blocks-un-security-council-resolution-calling-investigation-gaza-border-violence

The US would block a resolution calling for an investigation of the killing of Palestinians but would be the first one to condemn and call for military actions against the Syrians when people are killed.

What interests does each nation have in this situation and in the case of the US government, have they ever justified their own invasions throughout history?

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the chemical attack supposedly killed 100.. i would just hire an american teenager, give him an AR and some pills and he would do more than that. 

here is a tiny group of people, lets nuke em...

honestly, biased or not. the story doesnt have any logic. and those who are denying the conspiracy are showing their bias by going with the less logical story.

and again people... shia of ahul beyt.. Allah did not leave us without a light on earth.. this is not just a freeforall deathmatch randomly taking sides.

reflect on the stance you take. understand that you stand side by side with your enemy, your proof is from that same enemy.. yet you ignore the one who is obediant to Allah.. the one who says he is a servant of the Imam. these men would be the first to speak out against Assad if he used chemical weapons.

I know some of you are only saying what you heard from your parents or family... Not everyone is vigilant, do not just assume your family is right.

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Russian general Staff warning couple of weeks ago regarding daesh militants preparing to use CW against the civilians under their areas to justify further US involvement:

 

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/militants-in-east-ghouta-planning-chemical-weapons-attack-to-blame-govt-russian-general-staff/

http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/03/17/555774/US-training-Syria-militants-for-false-flag-chemical-attacks-Russian-cmdr

https://sana.sy/en/?p=130327

 

 

 

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26 minutes ago, IbnSina said:

Next step:

Cleaning south Damascus of daesh rebels, sorry I meant to say "peaceful and democratic freedom fighters":

Yes the next battle will be at Mukhayamat Yarmouk, which is right next to the town where the shrine of Sayeda Zaynab (as) is located. That area is mostly Palestinians, and consists of both nusra and Isis militants. 

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Here is another theory:

Vladimir Putin wants to take control of major portions of the Middle-East, as this is part of a larger, expansionist policy that Russia has been following (the Urkraine for instance)

When the US attacks ME countries with missiles, drones, or even ground troops, it convinces those countries that Russia's help is needed to protect them. In the case of Syria, Putin could very well have ordered the CW attack in an effort to invoke an American response. Assad and Iran then become convinced that having tens of thousands of Russian troops in the region is necessary to hold back "American aggression". It also forces Iran into making large concessions on trade to Russia, cooperating with that country on foreign policy matters, etc.

This is Putin's long game: after Syria and Iran become virtual puppet states of Russia, he then rolls the tanks into those nations. The US won't respond, because Iran and Syria are technically "enemies" of the west (propaganda). The UN will protest, but no action will be taken, and the Iranian people will then have to live under the boot of a violent, expansionist, nuclear power. Russia will corner the world's oil market, gain permanent access to ports in the Persian Gulf and Mediterranean Sea. 

One thing is pretty clear. Assad didn't know about this CW attack --but Putin isn't asking Assad for permission to do anything. 

Iran is working with a guy who is literally the Devil (engages in terrorism abroad by poisoning people with nerve gas and Polonium, invades his neighbors, throws political dissidents into prison, makes people vanish ...), and it will suffer the same fate that Austria and Hungary did in WWII -annexation by force.

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58 minutes ago, Silas said:

Iran is working with a guy who is literally the Devil (engages in terrorism abroad by poisoning people with nerve gas and Polonium, invades his neighbors, throws political dissidents into prison, makes people vanish ...), and it will suffer the same fate that Austria and Hungary did in WWII -annexation by force.

you also believe the poisoning accusations... palm to face*

Russians are the only sensible non muslims in this whole mess.. they are acting as a counterweight for the USA... are you also living in the US or do you get your news on purpose from dumb sources?

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6 minutes ago, kirtc said:

you also believe the poisoning accusations... palm to face*

Russians are the only sensible non muslims in this whole mess.. they are acting as a counterweight for the USA... are you also living in the US or do you get your news on purpose from dumb sources?

So Putin's propaganda machine has reached into some far corners I see ....

The only thing sensible about Putin is his policy of putting his own interests ahead of everyone else. When he poisoned those guys, he did it in such a way as to make sure everyone understood he was behind it. Street criminals don't run around with Polonium or Russian-created nerve toxins. He was sending a message. 

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3 hours ago, Silas said:

Vladimir Putin wants to take control of major portions of the Middle-East

I'm sorry, but what?

So Russia, NOT AMERICA, is trying to take the middle-east...

America, who have gone into Iraq for "nuclear weapons" and are still there to THIS DAY, despite none being found???

America, who, despite promising no more American boots on Syrian soil back in 2013, ARE STILL THERE???

America, who basically have the Saudis on a leash?

America, who support Israel, the country which kills Arabs on nearly a daily basis?

The world is blind...

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2 hours ago, Silas said:

So Putin's propaganda machine has reached into some far corners I see ....

The only thing sensible about Putin is his policy of putting his own interests ahead of everyone else. When he poisoned those guys, he did it in such a way as to make sure everyone understood he was behind it. Street criminals don't run around with Polonium or Russian-created nerve toxins. He was sending a message. 

Putin's interest lies in the extermination of the Jihadists, so does Russia's, so does Syria's, so does that of the seven year old girl from Aleppo, so does yours, and more broadly that of humanity. So may the force be with him. You are the only johnny that puts mass media's interest before your own by touting whatever bone they throw your way. 

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20 minutes ago, Wahdat said:

Putin's interest lies in the extermination of the Jihadists, so does Russia's, so does Syria's, so does that of the seven year old girl from Aleppo, so does yours, and more broadly that of humanity. So may the force be with him. You are the only johnny that puts mass media's interest before your own by touting whatever bone they throw your way. 

he aint the only one sadly.. there are more shias than I hoped that parrot zio news narratives.

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28 minutes ago, Wahdat said:

Putin's interest lies in the extermination of the Jihadists, so does Russia's, so does Syria's, so does that of the seven year old girl from Aleppo, so does yours, and more broadly that of humanity. So may the force be with him. You are the only johnny that puts mass media's interest before your own by touting whatever bone they throw your way. 

Salam in case of Russian policy we must act with high caution because Putin  acts based on Russia interest not shia Islam totally fortunately their interest currently same as us.

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13 hours ago, TheSpectator said:

I'm sorry, but what?

So Russia, NOT AMERICA, is trying to take the middle-east...

America, who have gone into Iraq for "nuclear weapons" and are still there to THIS DAY, despite none being found???

America, who, despite promising no more American boots on Syrian soil back in 2013, ARE STILL THERE???

America, who basically have the Saudis on a leash?

America, who support Israel, the country which kills Arabs on nearly a daily basis?

The world is blind...

BOTH America AND Russia want to control major areas of the Middle-East

Don't trade the devil you know with the devil you don't know. Putin's efforts against the Jihadists are simply to keep them away from his naval base in Syria --he doesn't care about what happens to the victims of ISIS. He might be concerned if fundamentalist violence were to spill over into Russia, but that is about it.

He isn't some kind of ally, and he isn't reliable. 

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On ‎4‎/‎8‎/‎2018 at 2:54 PM, JermainTaylor said:

No point reasoning here. Their heads are in the sand and they will blame anyone but Assad and are deluded. In fact even if they knew Assad did it, they wil support him.

It is blantantly obvious why this is and it sad that a vast section of this sect are terrorist sympathisers...

**Bahrain protest quelled (c.90 or so dead)

Shiachat:- unspeakable.. horrible crime!! Ya Fatima!

**Syrian protests quelled with massacre (death count massive)

Shiachat:- bro this is a plot by the zionists and the west.

**Yemen foreigin intervention by Saudi and airstrikes

Shiachat:- oh the inhumanity!!! These sick wahabis are dping airstrikes and intervening in foreign lands!! Ya Hussain!!

**Russian airstrikes and Iranian intervention in Syria.

Shiachat: roarr, the lions of Ali in Iran are saving us from the terrorist syrian rebels .Praise Russia!!

**Baathist tyrant in Iraq, Saddam Hussein

Shiachat: lanat on this dog!! Horrible man, ya Zainab

**Baathist tyrant in Syria, Bashar Al Assad

Shiachat: What a glorious lion! May the imams bless him...

I can keep going on but this is the pathetic nature of the people you are dealing with.

If no point? Then why you bothered to reason?

How easily you compare Bahrain, Iraq with Syria? How many thousand Shia ISIS, Nusra terrorist, and 10s of other terrorist organizations can you name in Bahrain or Iraq?

Syria! Except Assad and Muhalim, the government, army, local police and what not is filled and full of Sunnis, Christians, Druze and others..

Bahrain: not a single Shia is appointed to anything, not even a local police.

Saddam's Iraq: all the government was controlled by murtad-Saddam and his family from Tikrit with the exception of Tariq Aziz (a Christian) who was Mr. nobody anyways.

After Saddam, and before Saddam, Shia scholars called all Sunnis their brothers and freedom for all.. including Ayt. Sistani the powerful Shia scholar in the world.

While in Syria the opposition (all of them including the moderates) called for mass-murdering the entire Shias, Alawites, Christians, Druze and what not. Called for destruction of the entire Syrian history and they did destroy them and massacred ppl once they took control over any province. While in Iraq it was again the Saddamists and ISIS who declared sectarian war even though they were the very tiny minority.

In Syria more than 80,000 foreign fighters (non-Syrians) entered for Jihad and beheaded locals including tens of thousands of Sunni soldiers, police, and Sunni civilians..

Where in Bahrain we did not see a single pistol or a 'single' non-Bahraini Shia that entered for Jihad and same with Iraq.

You just close your eyes and compare things and say things that makes you look like a fool, nothing else.... all the Sunni-extremist logic and reasons! You can destroy the world, massacre ppl from Libya to Afghanistan, oppress ppl for centuries from Saudi to Pakistan, and at the end of the day others blamed for supporting Baathist Assad against a bunch of criminal, gangs, Zionist paid terrorists, and groups like ISIS, Nusra, Jaishul Islam and all other sh...tt.... I never supported Assad and I did not care for him much, just like Sisi, or Gaddafi, or Abdullah Saleh.. but in this war that started back in 2011, any sane person should and MUST wish that he wins against mass-murderers, criminals, Wahabi-terrorists who has nothing except declaring death and destruction of the world and what not...

I hope all the rebels (monster terrorists) and all those who support them in their war  in Syria will be cooked by Assad and all his allies.

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If you are more worried and concerned about an Assad airbase being bombed then civilians being gassed, bombed and slaughtered as demonstrated over the last 7 years, you need to have a long hard look at yourself.

Think of that as you viciously self flagellate during Matam at an ancient atrocity and how your willing to overlook and support the tyrant of your time today simple because of sectarian bias. How the alleged tyrant of that ancient time also had people in his ranks like you justifying his acts and denying his atrocities like you are....

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11 hours ago, Silas said:

BOTH America AND Russia want to control major areas of the Middle-East

Don't trade the devil you know with the devil you don't know. Putin's efforts against the Jihadists are simply to keep them away from his naval base in Syria --he doesn't care about what happens to the victims of ISIS. He might be concerned if fundamentalist violence were to spill over into Russia, but that is about it.

He isn't some kind of ally, and he isn't reliable. 

Hi it has a story in shia history that during Abbasides ,Sheikh Tusi (ra)  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaykh_Tusi  used Timur forces https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timur  to destroy them.

http://en.wikishia.net/view/Al-Shaykh_al-Tusi

https://www.al-islam.org/person/shaykh-tusi

http://www.iric.org/tabid/112/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/411/Biography-of-Shiekh-Tusi.aspx

http://www.shiavault.com/books/portraits-of-youths-in-quran-and-the-history-of-islam/chapters/42-shaykh-tusi

Sheikh Tusi biography

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1 hour ago, JermainTaylor said:

If you are more worried and concerned about an Assad airbase being bombed then civilians being gassed, bombed and slaughtered as demonstrated over the last 7 years, you need to have a long hard look at yourself.

Think of that as you viciously self flagellate during Matam at an ancient atrocity and how your willing to overlook and support the tyrant of your time today simple because of sectarian bias. How the alleged tyrant of that ancient time also had people in his ranks like you justifying his acts and denying his atrocities like you are....

Salam some people are martyred ,if you care about them & among them are Iranians that I think, it will make you happy.:angry:

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16 hours ago, Silas said:

 

This is Putin's long game: after Syria and Iran become virtual puppet states of Russia, he then rolls the tanks into those nations. The US won't respond, because Iran and Syria are technically "enemies" of the west (propaganda). The UN will protest, but no action will be taken, and the Iranian people will then have to live under the boot of a violent, expansionist, nuclear power. Russia will corner the world's oil market, gain permanent access to ports in the Persian Gulf and Mediterranean Sea. 

One thing is pretty clear. Assad didn't know about this CW attack --but Putin isn't asking Assad for permission to do anything. 

Iran is working with a guy who is literally the Devil (engages in terrorism abroad by poisoning people with nerve gas and Polonium, invades his neighbors, throws political dissidents into prison, makes people vanish ...), and it will suffer the same fate that Austria and Hungary did in WWII -annexation by force.

Although I don't trust Putin and don't think he is a 'good guy', I also disagree that this is his ultimate objective. He is a realist, he knows that Russia has never been able to conquer Iran(although they have tried many times) even at the height of the power of the Soviet Union. Also, none of the Arabic countries have been physically occupied by Russia, in modern history, or I think ever. Putin would like the expand the 'sphere of influence' of Russia in this area, and I think he has already done that, at least in Syria. But he knows that if he pushes it too far it will backfire on him as has happened with past Russian leaders. 

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28 minutes ago, Abu Hadi said:

Although I don't trust Putin and don't think he is a 'good guy', I also disagree that this is his ultimate objective. He is a realist, he knows that Russia has never been able to conquer Iran(although they have tried many times) even at the height of the power of the Soviet Union. Also, none of the Arabic countries have been physically occupied by Russia, in modern history, or I think ever. Putin would like the expand the 'sphere of influence' of Russia in this area, and I think he has already done that, at least in Syria. But he knows that if he pushes it too far it will backfire on him as has happened with past Russian leaders. 

Even fifty years ago in Russian history class, Russia has always looked to Persia as an outlet/seaport to the lndian Ocean. Iran granted them access last year. So why conquer?

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Fake News: the Water Hoses

So the BBC is again running the staged videos of White Helmets hosing down people who have been 'victims' of the alleged chemical attack.

Wait !   What is wrong here?  Water pressure in a war zone?

So, looking up some info:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wazGRAE0rlw   dated 22October17.  Please note at 43" that this contaminated water -from a pump- is unsafe to bathe in.

And from last year, https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/03/syria-jets-deliberately-hit-damascus-water-supply-170314110322695.html date 14March17

So how do these White Helmets have uncontaminated water under pressure?

Another report l read-over, Medicins sans Frontiers, said there is no chlorine for what water they can get.

Search Terms Used: "water supply" + eastern Ghouta

 

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13 hours ago, Sumerian said:

Trump will make a decision on striking Syria in the next 48 hours. Reports of US battleships moving closer to Syrian mainland. 

Watch WW3 unfold based on white helmets biased reports and a clown in charge of the US.

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49 minutes ago, IbnSina said:

Watch WW3 unfold based on white helmets biased reports and a clown in charge of the US.

could be.. to those that think russia is evil...russia is actually the only reason the west havent launched a full scale attack on syria yet. the same media that demonizes Assad demonizes Putin.. hes been accussed of everything until now, as usual with no proof. RT launches an investigation and asks questions.. no one wants to answer... they put their fingers in their ears and wail like little kids "putin is a monster" 

the russian poisoning case makes as much sense as the chemical attack.. 

 

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