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8:11 was “just for” remembrance of purification a night before battle of badr  , Not more than that!

33:33 is purification for always!

Edited by Arminmo

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This user @Follower of Ahlulbayt seems suspicious to me, if you look at all of his posts it's about differences between Shia and Sunni (mutah, infallibility, wives to be ahlulbait,..) 

He seems more like a sunni-intruder trying to prove sunnis point of view.

Even the username he is pretending to be is suspicious "follower of ahlulbayt" !!

If "mods" can put him under surveillance.

Look what he says here, "sahaba are pure!"

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1 hour ago, Arminmo said:

This user @Follower of Ahlulbayt seems suspicious to me, if you look at all of his posts it's about differences between Shia and Sunni (mutah, infallibility, wives to be ahlulbait,..) 

He seems more like a sunni-intruder trying to prove sunnis point of view.

Even the username he is pretending to be is suspicious "follower of ahlulbayt" !!

If "mods" can put him under surveillance.

Look what he says here, "sahaba are pure!"

http://www.shiachat.com/forum/topic/235056517-questions-about-the-verse-of-purification/?do=findComment&comment=3130148

no brother i am just asking some of the doubts i have come across

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1 hour ago, Arminmo said:

This user @Follower of Ahlulbayt seems suspicious to me, if you look at all of his posts it's about differences between Shia and Sunni (mutah, infallibility, wives to be ahlulbait,..) 

He seems more like a sunni-intruder trying to prove sunnis point of view.

Even the username he is pretending to be is suspicious "follower of ahlulbayt" !!

If "mods" can put him under surveillance.

Look what he says here, "sahaba are pure!"

http://www.shiachat.com/forum/topic/235056517-questions-about-the-verse-of-purification/?do=findComment&comment=3130148

Your observation seems quite valid, but we should permit him to continue with these threads as it is a part of healthy discussions for us ie the true followers of Ahl alabayt of the prophet saaw.

wasalam

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On 3/24/2018 at 4:16 PM, Salsabeel said:

It is not because of word "ankum" but because of words "innama" &  "yureedullah". The will mentioned in verse 33:33 is not the legislative will but an ontological will. 

https://www.al-islam.org/imamate-and-infallibility-imams-quran-ridha-kardan/chapter-6-imamate-quranic-verse-tatheer

Marvelous interpretation of "Inama" and "Yureed Allah" as mentioned in verse of purification.

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On 3/25/2018 at 2:27 AM, Qa'im said:

The narrations above indicate that the uncleanliness is any form of doubt in Allah. Meaning, the Ahl al-Bayt do not have doubts about their religion, and always choose to do good, without the influence of Satan (15:40). Remember that the verse uses the word "yureed", from the word "irada", meaning will or wish. Allah's irada in the Quran is that which He does and enacts right away without any need for contemplation or planning. So in 33:33, Allah says that He is actively staving off all doubts from the Ahl al-Bayt and purifying them thoroughly.

This verse is saying that Allah is constantly warding off evil and doubt from the Ahlul Bayt, for whenever Allah wills (irada) a thing, He merely says to it "be" and it is. The verse expresses a constant willingness of Allah to stave off all doubt so long that they exist.

Sorry for replying late to this

I don't see how you've come to the conclusion that just because doubts are kept away from the Ahl al-Bayt, this means that they will always do good? How have you come to that conclusion. 

Yes doubts are kept away from them, but what has that got to do with them being infallible and sinless? Many people today can claim that they have no doubts about Islam right? Does that they are infallible as well?

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You calling yourself infallible and Allahسُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى calling someone infallible are two completely different things bro. 

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On 10/1/2018 at 4:58 AM, Follower of Ahlulbayt said:

Sorry for replying late to this

I don't see how you've come to the conclusion that just because doubts are kept away from the Ahl al-Bayt, this means that they will always do good? How have you come to that conclusion. 

Yes doubts are kept away from them, but what has that got to do with them being infallible and sinless? Many people today can claim that they have no doubts about Islam right? Does that they are infallible as well?

If you have absolutely no doubt that touching a fire will burn you, then you will never choose to touch that fire.

Likewise, the Imams had complete faith in Allah, to the point where they knew the consequence of all sins. To them, committing a sin would be like eating a rotting piece of food on the road - there's no good reason to do it.

When people sin, the light of faith leaves their heart, and in that moment of sin they are not believers. The Imams never have any doubt or shakiness in their faith - they are mukhlas.

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