Veteran Member ShiaMan14 Posted March 15, 2018 Veteran Member Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 Prove what came first (chicken or egg) Islamically. I will start off with chicken came first because the Quran says everything is created in pairs so the rooster and hen got together to lay the first egg. "And He it is Who spread out the earth and placed therein firm hills and flowing streams, and of all fruits He placed therein two spouses (male and female). He covereth the night with the day. Lo! herein verily are portents for people who take thought." - Qur'an 13:3 "Glory be to Him Who created all the sexual pairs, of that which the earth groweth, and of themselves, and of that which they know not!" - Qur'an 36:36 "He Who created all the pairs, and appointed for you ships and cattle whereupon ye ride." - Qur'an 43:12 "And all things We have created by pairs, that haply ye may reflect." - Qur'an 51:49 Kazemi, Hameedeh, SIAR14 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Ron_Burgundy Posted March 15, 2018 Advanced Member Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 Of course chicken. Hameedeh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators notme Posted March 15, 2018 Moderators Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 We actually can answer this without religion. Any egg which comes from a chicken is a chicken egg, therefore the chicken must have come first, though possibly (if it evolved) it may have come from an egg which was not a chicken egg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veteran Member ShiaMan14 Posted March 15, 2018 Author Veteran Member Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 minute ago, notme said: We actually can answer this without religion. Any egg which comes from a chicken is a chicken egg, therefore the chicken must have come first, though possibly (if it evolved) it may have come from an egg which was not a chicken egg. but I am looking for religious proof. So where did the chicken come from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators notme Posted March 15, 2018 Moderators Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 16 minutes ago, shiaman14 said: but I am looking for religious proof. So where did the chicken come from? From an evolutionary perspective, a chicken came from an "almost chicken" egg. The book of Genesis in the Bible says animals were created in pairs, then given the ability to reproduce. That's in agreement with what the Quran says, mentioned above. Hameedeh and ShiaMan14 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monad Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 The thought came first. Ibn Al-Shahid, PureExistence1 and Haji 2003 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veteran Member ShiaMan14 Posted March 15, 2018 Author Veteran Member Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 14 minutes ago, notme said: From an evolutionary perspective, a chicken came from an "almost chicken" egg. The book of Genesis in the Bible says animals were created in pairs, then given the ability to reproduce. That's in agreement with what the Quran says, mentioned above. I think we solved one of the oldest questions ever. Hameedeh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veteran Member AbuHope Posted March 15, 2018 Veteran Member Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 Which came first, the guy that wanted to eat the chicken or the guy that wanted to eat the egg? hasanhh, Hameedeh, ShiaMan14 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
repenter-gone4awhile Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 Aren't chicklets dependant on their mothers to survive? Both to keep the egg warm so it can grow inside.....and also when they are young chickens. So if the egg came first.....how did it survive? Hameedeh and Haji 2003 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veteran Member ShiaMan14 Posted March 15, 2018 Author Veteran Member Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, repenter said: Aren't chicklets dependant on their mothers to survive? Both to keep the egg warm so it can grow inside.....and also when they are young chickens. So if the egg came first.....how did it survive? good point Hameedeh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Annieboo Posted March 15, 2018 Advanced Member Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 CHICKEN!!! Hameedeh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veteran Member Ibn Al-Shahid Posted March 16, 2018 Veteran Member Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 3 hours ago, repenter said: Aren't chicklets dependant on their mothers to survive? Both to keep the egg warm so it can grow inside.....and also when they are young chickens. So if the egg came first.....how did it survive? From the less evolved parent. Have you seen this thing where the little ducklings started following a guy because he’s what they saw first? He became the papa duck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Administrators Reza Posted March 16, 2018 Forum Administrators Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 The first human wasn’t conceived in a human womb either. Right? Haji 2003 and hasanhh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veteran Member hasanhh Posted March 16, 2018 Veteran Member Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, shiaman14 said: but I am looking for religious proof. So where did the chicken come from? Kun fayakun. Al-Bari-s.w.t. Edited March 16, 2018 by hasanhh PureExistence1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veteran Member ShiaMan14 Posted March 16, 2018 Author Veteran Member Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 33 minutes ago, hasanhh said: Kun fayakun. Al-Bari-s.w.t. That could be said for the egg too hasanhh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veteran Member ShiaMan14 Posted March 16, 2018 Author Veteran Member Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, Mohammed-Mehdi said: If it was the egg or the chicken, what does it really matter? Omelette vs chicken tikka - big difference. repenter-gone4awhile, AbuHope, Akbar673 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Nitidum Posted March 16, 2018 Advanced Member Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 ‘The chicken came first, not the egg’, scientists prove http://metro.co.uk/2010/07/13/the-chicken-came-first-not-the-egg-scientists-prove-447738/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veteran Member ShiaMan14 Posted March 16, 2018 Author Veteran Member Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 52 minutes ago, Nitidum said: ‘The chicken came first, not the egg’, scientists prove http://metro.co.uk/2010/07/13/the-chicken-came-first-not-the-egg-scientists-prove-447738/ Science and Islam agreeing. Mashallah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators notme Posted March 16, 2018 Moderators Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 1 minute ago, shiaman14 said: Science and Islam agreeing. Mashallah. Science and Islam will always agree when both are fully understood. Nitidum 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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