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I just want to ask is subliminal haram because Subliminal communications are messages beamed directly to the subconscious mind. What I mean here is I rely on my subconscious mind not jin or black magic involve  whatsoever... Does is still considered haram

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Salam as I know there is nothing said about it in Shia Islam fiqh so can be in Category of Mubah that means you can do it until you understand it is not permissible thus it needs more discussion & description to understand in what way it used and after that we can have more information about that to find out its rule

Wajib -- obligatory, necessary, incumbent. An act which must be performed. You will be rewarded for performing it and punished for neglecting it, e.g., the daily prayers, the fasting of Ramadhan.

Ihtiyat wajib -- precautionarily obligatory. Its significance is the same as that of wajib with the difference that in the problems where a mujtahid says it is "precautionarily obligatory", one has the option of leaving his taqlid (following) in this particular problem and following the rulings of the second-best mujtahid in that problem.

Haram -- forbidden, prohibited. It is necessary to abstain from the acts which are haram. If someone performs a haram act, he will be punished, e.g., eating pork.

Sunnat, Mustahab -- recommendable, desirable. The acts whose neglect is not punished, but whose performance is rewarded, e.g., the call for prayers (adhan).

Makruh -- reprehensible, disliked. The acts whose performance is not punished, but whose avoidance is rewarded, e.g., eating in the state of janabat.

Ja'iz, Halal, Mubah -- permitted, allowed, lawful, legal. The acts or the thing which are permitted and lawful. There is no reward for performing it and no punishment for neglecting it, e.g., drinking tea. Mubah is exclusively used for lawful things, not for permitted actions.

https://www.al-Islam.org/articles/taqlid-meaning-and-reality-Sayyid-Muhammad-Rizvi

http://en.wikishia.net/view/Mubah

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"Subliminal communications"? 

 

Subliminal messages in music (if that's what you mean) was a hysterical American Christian-led hoax around the time Rock music was becoming popular. Basically, these pastors were listening to albums with the needle on backwards on their record player and alleged that they were "hearing backwards messages" and their results were hilariously silly. 

Then skip after it makes the news, then lots of Rock bands (and Metal bands) decided to record their speak backwards and put them in songs to spite the American Christian pastors.

 

In reality though, everything we interact with effects us on some psychological level. Advertisement is probably the most perpetually successful form of "subliminal messaging" there is. They tell you to buy something because they tell you that you need it and now they've just gotten $50 in their cash register. Advertising through youtube, google etc as well is rampant. And in the modern Occultist sense (like Chaos Magick) it is indeed a form of Magick, literally (of course, in Chaos Magick they believe that Magic is only a psychological thing and that everything is relative, lol)

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Check out the subliminal messages from hip hop music in America beamed live right into the minds of Negroes in South Africa:

  • wasting money in clubs and I mean blowing thousands in American styled hip hop clubs, buying expensive booze like Ciroc and Bellvedeure and Moet etc etc you get the picture right
  • African girls, well some, a whole lot of some girls especially from uneducated backgrounds look down on their own natural African hair so they buy weaves and make themselves up to look like the kardashians and Beyonce Rihaana blah blah etc etc you get the picture
  • guys will, like hip hop moguls like in america, you know, Jay-Z, Puff Daddy drake lil wayne etc etc you get it, always front like pretend they have money when they don’t because they want to "smash" the hottest looking barbie doll girls like girls who go all out to look like ummmm Nicki Minaj thats right, so all most negro stupid punks do is waste money they don’t have
  • drive the latest german sports cars, even when you should be fixing your house or going to buy a house or even look after your damn kids, these negroes will blow money they don’t have to drive the latest german cars like your BMW'S AND benzes etc etc you get it
  • smash girls, thats all there is to it, smash girls
  • turn respectable African chicks into sex objects, have no respect for them just treat them like trash
  • girls, a whole lot of em, from a young age are now whores, just like them African American chicks

speak with an American hip hop accent though america is not in Africa. these are some of the consequences of the subliminal messages from African-America. African-Americans with their hip hop have actually become agents of American imperialism. ITS CALLED cultural imperialism and it is wrecking moral havoc in my country so 

YESSSSSSSS! IT IS HARAM!

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52 minutes ago, Gabenowa said:

Check out the subliminal messages from hip hop music in America beamed live right into the minds of Negroes in South Africa:

  • wasting money in clubs and I mean blowing thousands in American styled hip hop clubs, buying expensive booze like Ciroc and Bellvedeure and Moet etc etc you get the picture right
  • African girls, well some, a whole lot of some girls especially from uneducated backgrounds look down on their own natural African hair so they buy weaves and make themselves up to look like the kardashians and Beyonce Rihaana blah blah etc etc you get the picture
  • guys will, like hip hop moguls like in america, you know, Jay-Z, Puff Daddy drake lil wayne etc etc you get it, always front like pretend they have money when they don’t because they want to "smash" the hottest looking barbie doll girls like girls who go all out to look like ummmm Nicki Minaj thats right, so all most negro stupid punks do is waste money they don’t have
  • drive the latest german sports cars, even when you should be fixing your house or going to buy a house or even look after your damn kids, these negroes will blow money they don’t have to drive the latest german cars like your BMW'S AND benzes etc etc you get it
  • smash girls, thats all there is to it, smash girls
  • turn respectable African chicks into sex objects, have no respect for them just treat them like trash
  • girls, a whole lot of em, from a young age are now whores, just like them African American chicks

speak with an American hip hop accent though america is not in Africa. these are some of the consequences of the subliminal messages from African-America. African-Americans with their hip hop have actually become agents of American imperialism. ITS CALLED cultural imperialism and it is wrecking moral havoc in my country so 

YESSSSSSSS! IT IS HARAM!

 

True, corporate pop music is full of downright GARBAGE. It all represents the consumerist, capitalist ideal; literally to the extent that it is beyond being propaganda. There is a find line between art (which music is meant to be) and propaganda, and you're spot on there. 

There are many other aspects like relativism, sexism and others that factor in too. It's the embodiment of the status quo tho. (kinda like Atheistic Satanism, right?)

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16 minutes ago, HakimPtsid said:

 

True, corporate pop music is full of downright GARBAGE. It all represents the consumerist, capitalist ideal; literally to the extent that it is beyond being propaganda. There is a find line between art (which music is meant to be) and propaganda, and you're spot on there. 

There are many other aspects like relativism, sexism and others that factor in too. It's the embodiment of the status quo tho. (kinda like Atheistic Satanism, right?)

You sound like a graduate of a Masters in Arts or something like that. Funny thing, hip hop music didnt start like that. It started as the voice of the ghetto even though "gangsta hip hop" like Snoop Dogg in his original days was not kind to women but it was not what it became today. Hip hop got hijacked by those Jews on corporate music labels. They all Jews amazing fact. Men like Jimmy Iovine and Lyor Cohen (an Israeli), all Jews who sell this garbage and keep most of the profits to themselves. it doesnt sound like Atheistic Satanism, it is Atheistic Satanism. rapping about killing people or spraying people with AK-47'S actually inspires lost souls to do exactly that.

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1 hour ago, Gabenowa said:

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You sound like a graduate of a Masters in Arts or something like that. Funny thing, hip hop music didnt start like that. It started as the voice of the ghetto even though "gangsta hip hop" like Snoop Dogg in his original days was not kind to women but it was not what it became today. Hip hop got hijacked by those Jews on corporate music labels. They all Jews amazing fact. Men like Jimmy Iovine and Lyor Cohen (an Israeli), all Jews who sell this garbage and keep most of the profits to themselves. it doesnt sound like Atheistic Satanism, it is Atheistic Satanism. rapping about killing people or spraying people with AK-47'S actually inspires lost souls to do exactly that.

Yep, I am aware of the more genuine beginnings of hip hop.

My comment extends into pop music in general (the "mainstream"), it's an echo chamber of: "buy this" and customers just stupidly buying it. The "buy this" mentality of ideas and ideologies can and will naturally extend to violence and sadistic acts - absolutely. Yet music is capable of so much bigger and better things than that. :(

The weirdest thing with Western Culture is that it started with flirting with taboos but as time goes on, the taboo becomes something that makes it's way into the household and then your parents (or even kids) are listening to it. After a while, people become desensitized to the point were they loose touch with reality with real life stuff. (not to say that everyone becomes extremists but it does effect your ability of empathy around these topics, often satirizing violence, rape etc)

Music, whether mainstream or not, tends to have the ability to most openly display the detritus of society. Sometimes it works in a productive and artistic way, but in the case of my previous paragraph and your comment - it can become a fashionable commodity - were people would rather hear about terrible things than make a change to those terrible things. Aka, perpetuating already rampant problems.

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4 hours ago, Ejaz said:

Salam 

pls watch shaykh hamza Yusuf 4 good videos of subliminal messages in media. 

http://subliminalmanipulation.blogspot.com/

it goes very deep :censored:

This is the white man. This is what he does!

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