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Wahhabism :The school of Ibn Taymiyyah-Root of Terrorism

 

ISIS :sex slaves

ISIS :Islamic extremism

 

 

 

 

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Brother I know most of these Terrorists are Wahhabi Sunnis and Deobandi Sunnis but Brother, You cannot blame Shaikh-ul-Islam Taqi-ud-Deen Ahmad ibn Taymiyyah Hanbali رحمه الله (Allah have Mercy upon Him) & Shaikh-ul-Islam Muhammad Bin Abdul Wahaab Tameemi Hanbali رحمه الله (Allah have Mercy upon Him) for This Terrorism. All they wanted was to destroy Shirk & Terrorism which was widespread among Muslims.

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24 minutes ago, Shah Khan said:

Brother I know most of these Terrorists are Wahhabi Sunnis and Deobandi Sunnis but Brother, You cannot blame Shaikh-ul-Islam Taqi-ud-Deen Ahmad ibn Taymiyyah Hanbali رحمه الله (Allah have Mercy upon Him) & Shaikh-ul-Islam Muhammad Bin Abdul Wahaab Tameemi Hanbali رحمه الله (Allah have Mercy upon Him) for This Terrorism. All they wanted was to destroy Shirk & Terrorism which was widespread among Muslims.

Please tell us where this ideology is coming from then. Quran?

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14 minutes ago, Shah Khan said:

Brother I know most of these Terrorists are Wahhabi Sunnis and Deobandi Sunnis but Brother, You cannot blame Shaikh-ul-Islam Taqi-ud-Deen Ahmad ibn Taymiyyah Hanbali رحمه الله (Allah have Mercy upon Him) & Shaikh-ul-Islam Muhammad Bin Abdul Wahaab Tameemi Hanbali رحمه الله (Allah have Mercy upon Him) for This Terrorism. All they wanted was to destroy Shirk & Terrorism which was widespread among Muslims.

By creating more terrorism? I am afraid that I don't understand that logic.

 

 

Clearly people are admitting that there is a problem with the teachings of Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahhab.

https://www.al-islam.org/wahhabism-ayatullah-jafar-subhani

^Read this, it will explain what is wrong with Wahhabism and why.

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2 minutes ago, shiaman14 said:

Please tell us where this ideology is coming from then. Quran?

We are Ordered by Master Muhammad صلى الله عليه وعلى آله وسلم (May Allah Shower His Blessings upon Master Muhammad and His Ahlul-Bayt with Peace) to Destroy Shrines and Leave Innovations.

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Just now, Shah Khan said:

We are Ordered by Master Muhammad صلى الله عليه وعلى آله وسلم (May Allah Shower His Blessings upon Master Muhammad and His Ahlul-Bayt with Peace) to Destroy Shrines and Leave Innovations.

So what you are saying is that ISIS is following the Quran and Sunnah. Correct?

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6 minutes ago, Gaius I. Caesar said:

By creating more terrorism? I am afraid that I don't understand that logic.

 

 

Clearly people are admitting that there is a problem with the teachings of Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahhab.

https://www.al-islam.org/wahhabism-ayatullah-jafar-subhani

^Read this, it will explain what is wrong with Wahhabism and why.

Brother, Aren't there any Shia Terrorists?

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2 minutes ago, Shah Khan said:

NO! Brother, I think you are misinterpreting my Words. Although You 100% know what I am mentioning.

I don't what you mean. We know that ISIS are terrorists; brother @Ashvazdanghe said it was Ibn Taymiyah and Abdul Wahab. You are saying Prophet (saw) said to those things.

Please clarify based on whose teachings ISIS is doing (did) what the did.

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18 minutes ago, Gaius I. Caesar said:

Hardly, it is very rare. Shia terrorism is something that Faux News likes to believe in.

Assalam.

all the ISIS terrorist are Shia'a according to USA UK ISRAEL SAUDI UAE EMIRATE.

many wahhabies, instead of reading ibn Taymia books and ideas, they keep themselves busy with comics and hollywood movies, while they know nothing about him and while they didnt read his books. or maybe, they did and they just dont want to accept the truth.

this topic, imo, is an another useless topic, a complete waste of time. we dont even search the forum, and we open a same discussion about the subject.

Wassalam.

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https://www.al-islam.org/new-analysis-wahhabi-doctrines-muhammad-husayn-ibrahimi

 

A New Analysis of Wahhabi Doctrines

A text that examines fundamental Wahhabi beliefs in comparison to those of the Ahlus Sunnah and the Shi`ah. Topics discussed within include a summarized account of the life of Shaykh Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab, one of the prominent figures of this movement, and some of the major ideological issues in which Wahhabis deviate from mainstream Muslims (like Tawassul, Ziyarah, Ta'wil of the Qur'an, etc.).

 

 

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Nowadays either sunni muslims groups condemns wahabists&ISIS actions beside shia muslims.:h:discussion:

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33 minutes ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

Nowadays either sunni muslims groups condemns wahabists&ISIS actions beside shia muslims.:h:discussion:

you've No idea what they told us in Interrogation. one of them told a friend: what are you doing? are you praying?! i thou you're a jew.

anyway, maybe in private i tell you something, Enshallah.

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Cutting Somones Chest and bringing out his Liver then eating it, what kind of creature will do that? if animals do that, then it is because of their nature.

L.A Alayhem, and on their master and on Ibn Taymiah and ibn al-Wahab.

Rahmatullah ala Shohadae'ena, Assaberin Al-Muslemin LeAllahi Ta'ala. Rahmatullah Alaykom ya Abna'a Amir Al-Mo'ominin.

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Cutting Somones Chest and bringing out his Liver then eating it, what kind of creature will do that? if animals do that, then it is because of their nature.

L.A Alayhem, and on their master and on Ibn Taymiah and ibn al-Wahab.

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We were not taught this By Shaikh-ul-Islam Taqi-ud-Deen Ahmad ibn Taymiyyah Hanbali رحمه الله (Allah have Mercy upon Him) and Shaikh-ul-Islam Muhammad Bin Abdul Wahaab Tameemi Hanbali رحمه الله (Allah have Mercy upon Him). These People are ruining the name of these 2 Great Sunni Islamic Scholars in History. :( 

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5 minutes ago, Shah Khan said:

We were not taught this By Shaikh-ul-Islam Taqi-ud-Deen Ahmad ibn Taymiyyah Hanbali رحمه الله (Allah have Mercy upon Him) and Shaikh-ul-Islam Muhammad Bin Abdul Wahaab Tameemi Hanbali رحمه الله (Allah have Mercy upon Him). These People are ruining the name of these 2 Great Sunni Islamic Scholars in History. :( 

then you should read their books perfectly and carefully or move to an another country since Wahhabi countries wont let you know the truth and thanks to media they fill your eyes with lies only.

move here and we show you what kind of ideology and words they said/has about Shia'a. about Ali a.s and even about the prophet s.a.w.w, about a mother that can do something with his son. or when her husband isnt at home and what kind of things she can do in his absence.

sorry i've no interest to talk about such discussion as i mentioned above its a complete waste of time, so apologies me if didnt reply to you next time.

Wassalam.

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Just now, Haimid said:

then you should read their books perfectly and carefully or move to an another country since Wahhabi countries wont let you know the truth and thanks to media they fill your eyes with lies only.

Brother! Can you give a List of Wahhabi Countries? :)

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@Shah Khan I don't see how you could say this isn't from Ibn Taymiyyah. He gave verdicts that permitted the killing of rafidha (shia). The followers of Ibn Abdul-Wahab attacked the sunni ottoman empire, put a siege against the people of Mecca who they labled as "mushrikun", raided Ahsa and Karbala. Ibn Abdul-Wahab was the first to make an alliance with the saudi royal family which is why Saudi religious establishment is still controlled by the descendants of Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahab. Ottoman scholars also called the wahabis "khawarij". Its pretty clearly the same ideology when you study their history. 

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Mu’awiya s intention from sunni Islam view (Eng sub)

@Shah Khan brother did you know that Hadith about Najd & horns of Satan just came in Sunni Islam sources & in shia hadiths it doesn’t exist . Sorry for your disturbing by mentioning your masters but their doctrine causes current conflict between Wahabist country of KSA & already Malaysia that was famous for its religion tolerance nowadays becomes a Wahabi country day to day that their first act was banning of practicing of shia Islam at Malaysia by influence of Zakir Naik & KSA on them & currently Pakistan is not a safe place for shia muslims.:blush::sorry:

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7 hours ago, Shi3i_jadeed said:

@Shah Khan I don't see how you could say this isn't from Ibn Taymiyyah. He gave verdicts that permitted the killing of rafidha (shia). The followers of Ibn Abdul-Wahab attacked the sunni ottoman empire, put a siege against the people of Mecca who they labled as "mushrikun", raided Ahsa and Karbala. Ibn Abdul-Wahab was the first to make an alliance with the saudi royal family which is why Saudi religious establishment is still controlled by the descendants of Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahab. Ottoman scholars also called the wahabis "khawarij". Its pretty clearly the same ideology when you study their history. 

Yeah I read about Wahhabi History. They were backed up by British.

 

7 hours ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

Mu’awiya s intention from sunni Islam view (Eng sub)

@Shah Khan brother did you know that Hadith about Najd & horns of Satan just came in Sunni Islam sources & in shia hadiths it doesn’t exist . Sorry for your disturbing by mentioning your masters but their doctrine causes current conflict between Wahabist country of KSA & already Malaysia that was famous for its religion tolerance nowadays becomes a Wahabi country day to day that their first act was banning of practicing of shia Islam at Malaysia by influence of Zakir Naik & KSA on them & currently Pakistan is not a safe place for shia muslims.:blush::sorry:

JazaakAllah Brother for Love and Respect :). I know the Hadith Brother. Mainstream Sunnis refer this Hadith and say Najd is in Iraq.

And you know what the most Interesting part is? The Sunni Muslim Scholar you gave above, His name is Maulana Ishaq Bhatti Faisalabadi رحمه الله (Allah have Mercy upon Him) and he Himself Praise Shaikh-ul-Islam Taqi-ud-Deen Ahmad ibn Taymiyyah Hanbali رحمه الله (Allah have Mercy upon Him) & Shaikh-ul-Islam Muhammad Bin Abdul Wahaab Tameemi Hanbali رحمه الله (Allah have Mercy upon Him)  . :grin:

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Ok guys lets just respect the part 'Wahabi' in terms of its name and lets not name these shayateen as 'Wahabi' and why because Wahab is as you all know whose attribute :-).

The unfortunate part is because of Abdul Wahab these people got categorized into 'Wahabis'.

To shah khan brother

List of wahabi countries.

101% Saudia Arabic that laid its foundation because of Abdul Wahab.

They hate shia and call shias terrorists, okay khallas call us terrorists no problem.

Prophet(SAWW)'s grave is in masjid e nabawi and that's why the mosque its made so nicely and kept nicely and you are telling us shrines are haraam?

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2 hours ago, Shah Khan said:

JazaakAllah Brother for Love and Respect :). I know the Hadith Brother. Mainstream Sunnis refer this Hadith and say Najd is in Iraq.

Salam I heard it before but this is another fabrication that KSA Moftis were made to purify themselves .

Najd or Nejd (Arabic: نجد‎, Najd, Arabic pronunciation: [nad͡ʒd]) is a geographical central region of Saudi Arabia, alone accounting for almost a third of the population of the country.[1] Najd consists of modern administrative regions of Riyadh, Al-Qassim, and Ha'il. Unlike Hejaz, Najd is very remote and had largely avoided falling under foreign control.

 

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A view of the Tweig (Tuwaiq) Escarpment from the west. The Saudi capital Riyadh lies just beyond the horizon.
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Najd superimposed over the modern political divisions of Saudi Arabia
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Najd was the next step after Hijaz in the campaigns of the Nejd Expedition.

The Arabic word najd literally means "upland" and was once applied to a variety of regions within the Arabian Peninsula. However, the most famous of these was the central region of the Peninsula roughly bounded on the west by the mountains of the Hejaz and Yemen and to the east by the historical region of Eastern Arabia and the north by Iraq and Syria.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Najd

 

2 hours ago, Shah Khan said:

And you know what the most Interesting part is? The Sunni Muslim Scholar you gave above, His name is Maulana Ishaq Bhatti Faisalabadi رحمه الله (Allah have Mercy upon Him) and he Himself Praise Shaikh-ul-Islam Taqi-ud-Deen Ahmad ibn Taymiyyah Hanbali رحمه الله (Allah have Mercy upon Him) & Shaikh-ul-Islam Muhammad Bin Abdul Wahaab Tameemi Hanbali رحمه الله (Allah have Mercy upon Him) 

as you said before  its a good word from anybody.:grin:

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Al Azhar & wahhabism (disagreement or agreement)

 

disagreement

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Agreement

 

 

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On 2/17/2018 at 8:30 AM, Karbalai110 said:

Prophet(SAWW)'s grave is in masjid e nabawi and that's why the mosque its made so nicely and kept nicely and you are telling us shrines are haraam?

Master Muhammad صلى الله عليه وعلى آله وسلم (Peace Be upon Him) was already buried inside the house of Umhaat-ul-Momineen (Mother of Believers) Mother Aisha رضي الله عنها (May Allah Be Pleased with Her) Bint Abu Bakr رضي الله عنه (May Allah be Pleased with Him).

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35 minutes ago, Shah Khan said:

Master Muhammad صلى الله عليه وعلى آله وسلم (Peace Be upon Him) was already buried inside the house of Umhaat-ul-Momineen (Mother of Believers) Mother Aisha رضي الله عنها (May Allah Be Pleased with Her) Bint Abu Bakr رضي الله عنه (May Allah be Pleased with Him).

 currently house of Lady Khadija (sa) & Lady Fatima (sa)destroyed by KSA If you go in future to hajj it seems that you will go to Los Vegas not Mecca.

:keeporder:

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