Any knowledgeable members? Niyyat Questions...

[068722073]

Salaam, 

 

A few weeks ago I read somewhere that one should specify in namaz whether it's an "a'da" or "qadha" prayer. Normally, my niyyat for prayers is as follows:

I verbally or mentally say, "I pray ____ namaz, ___ rakats, wajib qurbatan ilallah",

and if I need to pray qadha (sadly), I would just add the word "qadha" before the word "wajib".

But now, I also add "a'da" before the word "wajib" for prayers that are being offered during the right time...Is this necessary when you know you're reading the namaz during the right time?

 

Recently, I read some texts of past scholars such as Imam Khomeini that indicated that niyyat is just a natural and like an in-built phenomenon occurring before performing any voluntary action, and that it's impossible for any voluntary action to even occur without a niyyat (https://www.al-islam.org/adab-as-salat-disciplines-of-prayer-second-revised-edition-imam-khomeini/section-three-secret-niyyah#chapter-1-truth-niyyah-worship). Also, on Ayatollah Sistani's website it says that, "It is not, however, necessary that he should make the niyyat pass through his mind, or should, for example, utter: "I am offering four Rak'ats of Zuhr prayers Qurbatan ila-llah." ".

I encourage you to visit the link Al-Islam.Org link I sent in this paragraph, the reading is not too long.

 

Looking at this information, does this mean that one can just walk up to the musallah, instantly say the takbir, and then start the namaz??? If it's not possible to perform any voluntary action without niyyat, and if Ayatollah Sistani says that one doesn't need to pass it through his mind, then what even is niyyat? How is niyyat performed?  Do I need to WILLFULLY try to perform the niyyat? If niyyat is a natural and automatic phenomenon, why are we always told to make sure to “do” niyyat, without niyyat namaz is void...etc ?. What does it mean to"do" it? Why is the importance of the “performance” of niyyat stressed so much, as if expecting us to make some conscious willful effort to do something...I don’t get what Ayatollah Sistani means by saying that it’s not necessary to pass it through your mind, how else do you do it then? It's always emphasized about how niyyat is an essential component of namaz, it is a rukn of namaz and all, and one can't pray without it. But how exactly is it done? (I know that when one is doing prayer, it shouldn't be to showoff or some other bad reason like that, it should be completely for the pleasure of Allah)... I think for now I’ll be sticking to the “verbal” or “conscious willful thought” approach to niyyat...

 

If any knowledgeable brothers or sisters could explain and clarify this matter it would be great.

[Ashvazdanghe]

On 2/11/2018 at 5:30 AM, 068722073 said:

Looking at this information, does this mean that one can just walk up to the musallah, instantly say the takbir, and then start the namaz??? If it's not possible to perform any voluntary action without niyyat, and if Ayatollah Sistani says that one doesn't need to pass it through his mind, then what even is niyyat? How is niyyat performed?  Do I need to WILLFULLY try to perform the niyyat? If niyyat is a natural and automatic phenomenon, why are we always told to make sure to “do” niyyat, without niyyat namaz is void...etc ?.

 It means that you must know what is main goal for example if somebody ask you which Namaz you done can explain it it was dhuhr or Asr Prayer.

[realizm]

On 11/02/2018 at 3:00 AM, 068722073 said:

Salaam, 

 

A few weeks ago I read somewhere that one should specify in namaz whether it's an "a'da" or "qadha" prayer. Normally, my niyyat for prayers is as follows:

I verbally or mentally say, "I pray ____ namaz, ___ rakats, wajib qurbatan ilallah",

and if I need to pray qadha (sadly), I would just add the word "qadha" before the word "wajib".

But now, I also add "a'da" before the word "wajib" for prayers that are being offered during the right time...Is this necessary when you know you're reading the namaz during the right time?

 

Recently, I read some texts of past scholars such as Imam Khomeini that indicated that niyyat is just a natural and like an in-built phenomenon occurring before performing any voluntary action, and that it's impossible for any voluntary action to even occur without a niyyat (https://www.al-islam.org/adab-as-salat-disciplines-of-prayer-second-revised-edition-imam-khomeini/section-three-secret-niyyah#chapter-1-truth-niyyah-worship). Also, on Ayatollah Sistani's website it says that, "It is not, however, necessary that he should make the niyyat pass through his mind, or should, for example, utter: "I am offering four Rak'ats of Zuhr prayers Qurbatan ila-llah." ".

I encourage you to visit the link Al-Islam.Org link I sent in this paragraph, the reading is not too long.

 

Looking at this information, does this mean that one can just walk up to the musallah, instantly say the takbir, and then start the namaz??? If it's not possible to perform any voluntary action without niyyat, and if Ayatollah Sistani says that one doesn't need to pass it through his mind, then what even is niyyat? How is niyyat performed?  Do I need to WILLFULLY try to perform the niyyat? If niyyat is a natural and automatic phenomenon, why are we always told to make sure to “do” niyyat, without niyyat namaz is void...etc ?. What does it mean to"do" it? Why is the importance of the “performance” of niyyat stressed so much, as if expecting us to make some conscious willful effort to do something...I don’t get what Ayatollah Sistani means by saying that it’s not necessary to pass it through your mind, how else do you do it then? It's always emphasized about how niyyat is an essential component of namaz, it is a rukn of namaz and all, and one can't pray without it. But how exactly is it done? (I know that when one is doing prayer, it shouldn't be to showoff or some other bad reason like that, it should be completely for the pleasure of Allah)... I think for now I’ll be sticking to the “verbal” or “conscious willful thought” approach to niyyat...

 

If any knowledgeable brothers or sisters could explain and clarify this matter it would be great.

Not necessary to have intention on adha. Only qadha.

 

[068722073]

thx for the comments

[Haimid]

34 minutes ago, 068722073 said:

thx for the comments

Niyat: if someone asks you: what are you doing? (in case when you're praying) you say: im praying. see? thats Niyyat. no need to whisper or say it.