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What can you do in Heaven? (Jannah/Paradise)

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1 hour ago, Son of Placid said:

If Hoor Al-Een is as intoxicating as fine wine, you may as well have the wine to go with her. You better be in the best of form if you have to satisfy 72 of them while drinking wine. If that sounds like a problem then you may have to curb your good deeds as that seems to lead to even more virgins. Jesus got an extra 40 for standing in the rain. Are these perpetual virgins, or do you only get one run?  Then what? 

The 72 comes from sunni view not shia Islam view in Quran says you can marry there as this world with virgin woman but real 72 comes from companions of Imam hussain (as) that they have high ranking between martyres & most about f them will return at end time to help Imam Mahdi(aj) & in some sources said that Imam hussain (as) will back to the this world to rule after Imam Mahdi (aj) that he will revenge of bloodshed of Imam hussain (as) but in Sunni sources they converted it to 72 virgin in Paradise.

also Imam hussain (as) had a Christian slave in name of “Jon”or “John” that didn’t left him & matyred as a Christian & buried beside of Imam hussain (as)

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@Son of Placid thank you for your comment for giving a description of the Christian view, as well as mentioning something i had been wondering about for a long time-the 72 virgins deal. I knew it came from Sunni sources, but didnt know they derived it from Imam Husseins(AS) companions, so also thank you to @Ashvazdanghe for clearing that up for me. 

W/s

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9 hours ago, shia farm girl said:

@Son of Placid thank you for your comment for giving a description of the Christian view, as well as mentioning something i had been wondering about for a long time-the 72 virgins deal. I knew it came from Sunni sources, but didnt know they derived it from Imam Husseins(AS) companions, so also thank you to @Ashvazdanghe for clearing that up for me. 

W/s

I must admit, I also knew the 72 virgins was a Sunni thing but it's always fun to bring up. This is the first time I've heard of it's origin. I still don't see the connection. I can tell you, Christians would be pretty ticked if Muslims got all the virgins and they all got the big eyed helpers.

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On 1/31/2018 at 3:59 PM, shia farm girl said:

Salaamun aleikum, i have read and heard various ideas as well. I have heard the soul is sexless, that gender (male/female) is a function of being a human and is a necessity for procreation while we are in the physical human state, but in Jannah, there wont be a need for such a thing in the exact way we know it here. That our experience with our mates will be of a different type and quality than what we know here.I dont know how true this is, but ive heard it from well known scholars.

Salam, You are right.

If we have complete happiness in heaven in every way, there should be no need of an additional pleasure that we experience in this world.

Thus it is completely understandable that there would be no sex or drugs in heaven.

Our relations with people around us and with our friends and partners will be based on friendship.

But then, many questions do arise.

For example, will any undeserving people go to heaven?

God will have to draw the line somewhere.

But where?

It is not conceivable that everyone will be forgiven and end up in heaven..   

Is it possible that there are many different types of heavens - depending on how good you are?.

It is hardly possible that a prophet and a borderline believer would be in the same heaven.

Or that the likes of Yazid and the borderline disbeliever will be in the same hell.  

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On 2/3/2018 at 2:21 PM, IloveImamHussain said:

Salam, You are right.

If we have complete happiness in heaven in every way, there should be no need of an additional pleasure that we experience in this world.

Thus it is completely understandable that there would be no sex or drugs in heaven.

Our relations with people around us and with our friends and partners will be based on friendship.

But then, many questions do arise.

For example, will any undeserving people go to heaven?

God will have to draw the line somewhere.

But where?

It is not conceivable that everyone will be forgiven and end up in heaven..   

Is it possible that there are many different types of heavens - depending on how good you are?.

It is hardly possible that a prophet and a borderline believer would be in the same heaven.

Or that the likes of Yazid and the borderline disbeliever will be in the same hell.  

Really good question. I was hoping you'd have answers. I'm glad I don't have to make those decisions.

There is reference to "The least of heaven" more than once in the NT. On the surface it would seem heaven would be divided into classes, but as you say, this doesn't seem a proper interpretation. 

In the book of Hebrews it says "it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment." which doesn't leave any room for a purgatory, yet that is a belief derived from the same book. 

Paul's letters contain him speaking out against sins, especially those that will keep you out of heaven. Can be seen condensed list here.

40 years ago it was all a panic, but I think it's safe to say we will not see the end times, more than likely judgement day will come to us. 

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The attempt to download the condensed list failed.

Tried 4 times. 

Is the problem with my computer or with my Internet?

But don't worry, I know that my sins are so numerous that paper will run out and the ink will dry up before they can be fully written down.

Therefore I am relying entirely on God's mercy.

But I still don't understand why everyone with a pass ( 51% - 100%) should go to the same heaven.

Or everyone with a fail (0% - 49%) should all share the same hell. 

And what will happen to those on the border, who neither passed nor failed, but managed to get more than 49% but less then 51%? 

My feeling is that there is a lot more to it than our scholars and our books tell us. 

Only God knows the answers while, thanks to the Internet, we argue endlessly over nothing. 

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31 minutes ago, IloveImamHussain said:

The attempt to download the condensed list failed.

Tried 4 times. 

Is the problem with my computer or with my Internet?

You might be having a problem with your device. I downloaded it in one second. After you click on the link and the pdf opens, click on the down-pointing arrow. A box will open to show which location you want to save it, e.g., Desktop, Recent Places, Documents, Downloads, etc. See the image:

download pdf.jpg

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if we sunni love ahle bayt and all the rightly guided caliphs do you shia think we will enter paradisr

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On 1/31/2018 at 1:59 PM, shia farm girl said:

Salaamun aleikum, i have read and heard various ideas as well. I have heard the soul is sexless, that gender (male/female) is a function of being a human and is a necessity for procreation while we are in the physical human state, but in Jannah, there wont be a need for such a thing in the exact way we know it here. That our experience with our mates will be of a different type and quality than what we know here.I dont know how true this is, but ive heard it from well known scholars.

I have also heard that out of Allahs mercy for us, that in Jannah, He will wipe our "memory" in such a way that we will not feel at loss or miss the relations we have had in the dunya that wont make it to Jannah. Barzakh is different, in the sense that we can still feel regret for things we shoulda coulda woulda done, but didnt do. This ayat points to us experiencing regret in Barzakh-I have heard this particular ayat disected and any confusion lies in  the translation of the word that is usually translated in english to "paradise". In the actuall Jannah, there will be no regret or suffering, otherwise it wouldnt be Jannah, lol, so Barzakh must be what is being refered to here: 

This is very close to what Biblical texts explains. Barzakh is not a term I'm familiar with. 

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On 2/1/2018 at 6:20 AM, Sumerian said:

That's why their will be Hoor Al-Een, for example.

If I recall, the only description in the Quran for these hoor al een is "large eyes". The rest is pure imagination. All the way to 72 of em, all intoxicating as a fine wine, doin the 7 veil dance. There's almost the feeling that every sin averted on earth is rewarded by that same sin in heaven. There is nothing Bible nor Quran says they will be sexual beings, It's more possible they will look like what's stored in area 51. The Bible describes them as helpers, nothing more. Apparently, if you play your cards right you can get more than 72. Jesus got an extra 40 for standing in the rain. There should be a list on how to gain extra virgins somewhere. There might even be special Duas. 

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3 hours ago, Guest man said:

if we sunni love ahle bayt and all the rightly guided caliphs do you shia think we will enter paradisr

Even if a rockreally loves them will be resurrect with Ahlul-Bayt  (as) but I can't hold love of both side because I don't have two hearts in my chest.:grin:

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3 hours ago, Son of Placid said:

This is very close to what Biblical texts explains. Barzakh is not a term I'm familiar with. 

Barzakh is basically an intermediary realm souls go to after death, and remain there until Judgement Day. Once we enter Barzakh, our actions from this physical world will manifest in their spiritual form there, the good AND the bad.  Our good deeds manifest in enjoyable, positive ways, and our bad deeds in bad, negative ways. I guess it could be considered similar to purgatory. 

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