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Did Albert Einstein Communicate with Borujerdi?

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Salam Alaikum

Ok guys, this may sound odd but if you read on Albert Einstein, you'll find some people claim he was communicating with Ayatollah Borujerdi (ra), and learning about Shia Islam. Albert Einstein was an extremely intelligent and wise man, so it doesn't fascinate me that he was searching for the truth, or worried about his afterlife.

Now the thing is, many claim he was an atheist. I think he has his own quotes that support he doesn't believe in the afterlife.  However, if the grand Ayatollah wanted to keep this little communication a secret, because Einstein may have been assassinated, is there truly a possibility this occurred? Could it be that he changed his agnostic views, and turned towards Allah but kept it a secret?

I want to hear your opinions because this is very interesting.

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Ayatollah Boroujerdi's Controversy with Einstein According to His Child: Professor Hassabi was Interrelated / We Do not Know About Einstein Muslims
 
The Ayatullah Alawi Boroujerdi Office of the Ayatollah Ali Boroujerdi (Ghods-e Sara) Ayatollah Al-Ayazi has been interviewed with the following text:

Prophet Ayatollah Alavi Boroujerdi! As you know, recently some news agencies and news databases have published a letter from Mr. Einstein to Ayatollah Grand Ayatollah Boroujerdi Qods Shereh and they have talked about the relationship between them. We ask Your Excellency if you are aware of this, make a statement to answer a number of questions that many scholars have come up with and inform this site.

Please describe how Hazrat Ayatollah Grand Ayatollah Boroujerdi (Quds Sir) communicates with Mr. Einstein.

Mr. Einstein and Grand Ayatollah Boroujerdi have not been directly linked to each other; neither Mr. Einstein came to Iran nor the Grand Ayatullah Boroujerdi to the United States, but there was a strong link between the two, and that was Mr. Professor Hassabi. On the one hand, he was a student of Einstein, and he was connected with them. On the other hand, he was one of the most respected and enthusiasts of the Grand Ayatullah Boroujerdi, and he was very much in charge of his service. I, too, were in touch with Dr. Hassabi in Tehran and in Qom, and I received their service.

Excellency Ayatullah Alavi, are there any indications and evidence of this connection? 

At the same time, about 42 years ago, before Dr. Ayatollah Boroujerdi and Einstein discussed the relationship of Grand Ayatullah, Dr. Hassabi spoke on this issue for the slave. He said: "After Einstein's theory of relativity in scientific circles, I came to the service of the Grand Ayatullah Boroujerdi. They wanted to explain to me about this theory, and I also explained the theory thoroughly. Ayatollah Grand Ayatollah Boroujerdi asked me the exact questions and I would answer. When the story ended, he said: "Bring me to Mr. Einstein, say hello, you've been able to open the metaphysics of stomatal physics." Mr. Professor Hassabi spoke just like this from the Grand Ayatullah Boroujerdi. This story suggests that there was a connection between Einstein and Ayatollah Grand Ayatollah Boroujerdi through Dr. Hassabi, although it was at the level of the message, but regarding Mr. Einstein's Muslims and Shiites, which were later raised, we do not have accurate and verifiable information. 

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http://www.tarikhirani.ir/fa/news/All/bodyView/2150/index.html

http://www.shia-news.com/fa/news/34784/ارتباط-البرت-انیشتین-با-آیت-الله-بروجردی

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tarikhirani.ir%2Ffa%2Fnews%2FAll%2FbodyView%2F2150%2Findex.html&edit-text=

Einstein's latest book 

Subject: Letter of Einstein with Grand Ayatollah Boroujerdi, Qods Sareh

Albert Einstein prefers Islam to all the religions of the world in his final treatise titled Dickerlingen, "A Statement", written in 1954 (1933-1933) in America and in German, which makes it the most complete and most reasonable one. Religion knows This essay is in fact Einstein's secret letter with Ayatollah Grand Ayatollah Boroujerdi (died 1961), which was taken by the Shah's elected translators secretly.

In this treatise Einstein's "Theory of Relativity" is written with verses from the Holy Qur'an and some traditions of Nahj al-Balaghah and most of all Bahar al-Anwar al-Majma'i (from Arabic to English and ... by Hamid Reza Pahlavi (died in 1371) and ... Under the direction of Ayatullah Borujerdi described that no religious beliefs are now found in such brazen traditions, and this is the only Shi'a religion that has been presented by the leaders of the complex theory of "relativity" but not widely understood by scholars, including the hadith That the Allameh Majlesi narrates about the physical ascension of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH): When rising from the earth, the skirt of the Prophet is blessed with a blue dish The flask and that container are overturned, but after the Prophet (pbuh) returns from the physical ascension, they observe that after this time all the time, the water is still poured on the earth ... Einstein takes this hadith from the most expensive The scholarly statements of the Shiite leaders are related to the "expansion and relativity of time" and writes a detailed physical description of it ....

http://www.broujerdi.ir/index.php/2016-03-25-16-38-40/2016-03-25-16-48-33

http://www.khabaronline.ir/detail/94392/culture/religion

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fa&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.broujerdi.ir%2Findex.php%2F2016-03-25-16-38-40%2F2016-03-25-16-48-33

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Guest MohammadHossein

Salaam,

It was first rumored in Persian (Iran) blogs that such relation and conversation held with Ayatollah Broujerdi. It's hard to translate all the documentations to debunk the myth in English. But long story short, A. Broujerdi and Einstein did not exchange a single word or letter and the alleged letter is only in Persian and if you read it, it's physical terms are meaningless. The photo of Einstein with A. Broujerdi is also Photoshopped.

All lies.

The truth of Shiism and the fact that it's the right path of God doesn't need those counterfactual myths.

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I found this site but i can't confirm that is true or not any way they have mail connection with each other

http://www.khanwadeabutalib.com/public/ilm/article/Was-Einstein-a-Muslim-(Shia)--....-/805/58#

http://roshangari.ir/video/11774

http://roshangari.ir/video/19226 

http://www.farhangnews.ir/content/45634

http://www.farhangnews.ir/sites/default/files/content/attaches/story/92-05/30/book-anishtain.pdf

in video said that he became Shia but Ayatollah Grand Ayatollah Boroujerdi (Quds Sir) advised him not declare it publicly.

but i think its more important

Efforts toward Islamic unity[edit]

Borujerdi was the first Marja to look beyond Iraq and Iran. He sent Sayyid Muhaqqiqi to Hamburg, Germany, Aqa-e-Shari'at to Karachi, Pakistan, Al-Faqihi to Medina and Musa al-Sadr to Lebanon.

He established cordial relations with Mahmud Shaltut, the grand Shaykh of al-Azhar Mosque. Together, the two scholars established the "House for Bringing Muslim Sects Nearer" in Cairo. Shaltut issued a famous fatwa accepting the Shi'a faith as one of the recognised sects of Islam.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seyyed_Hossein_Borujerdi

http://en.wikishia.net/view/Mahmud_Shaltut

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Azhar_Shia_Fatwa

shia1.pnghttps://www.al-islam.org/shiite-encyclopedia-ahlul-bayt-dilp-team/al-azhar-verdict-on-shia

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20 hours ago, Guest Luqman said:

Ok guys, this may sound odd but if you read on Albert Einstein, you'll find some people claim he was communicating with Ayatollah Borujerdi (ra), and learning about Shia Islam. Albert Einstein was an extremely intelligent and wise man, so it doesn't fascinate me that he was searching for the truth, or worried about his afterlife.

Now the thing is, many claim he was an atheist. I think he has his own quotes that support he doesn't believe in the afterlife.  However, if the grand Ayatollah wanted to keep this little communication a secret, because Einstein may have been assassinated, is there truly a possibility this occurred? Could it be that he changed his agnostic views, and turned towards Allah but kept it a secret?

Salam. This is interesting. Albert Einstein's relationship with Ayatullah Boroujerdi (according to translate.google.com), which might explain something. I only know English. :( 

http://www.shia-news.com/fa/news/34784/ارتباط-البرت-انیشتین-با-آیت-الله-بروجردی

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8 hours ago, SIAR14 said:

Voice behind is Mulana Murtaza Ali Zaidi, explaining meeting of Einstein with Ayatullah Borujerdi.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT6FYwdPOfM

[Mod Note: Video is displayed as a link to shorten the quote.]

It is not Murtuza Zaidi who is speaking. It is Dr Abid Raza Zaidi who is speaking. 

JazakAllah brother for sharing :)

Edited by Hameedeh
Mod Note in the quote.

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@Hussaini624 @realizm

Non-Muslim will never let you know things which went in favor of Shias. 

Einstein was working on theory of relativity E=MC2 when He got to know about the incident of Merij of Prophet (PBUH). That whole incident made him curious as it is hard for him to figure out how it is humanly possible to travel to one place to another in that sort period of time. Only light (Noor) has the ability to travel that fast from one place to another. He got to know shia Muslims not only believes that this is spiritual journey but also physical in nature. To have this information he contacted Ayatullah Bojwerdi.  There were almost 40 letters between him and Ayatullah in 1954 in which he gave reference from Nahjul Bhalaga and Bihar ul anwar regarding Miraj. Translation was done in German and English.  

It was a contract between Irani Government, Ayatullah and Einstein that these letters will be kept secret. Einstein converted to shia islam after these letters and facts shown by Ayatullah but Einstein requested Ayatullah to keep it a secret as Jews will kill him. In all those letter Einstein referred Ayatullah as THE GREAT BOJWERDI. 

Einestine wrote an article Declaration/Statemnet which was his last article. In it he quoted reference from Quran, Nahjul Bhalaga and Hadiths. He declared Islam as Perfect religion, and declared himself as 12 Imami shia.

However this letter was made hidden in England and 30 Lakh Dollar price was set for this letter. Dr Professor Ibrahim mehdavi from iran was in london at that time, He tried to gather that amount but he wasn’t able to gather. But the team of scientist went to check the authenticity of the letter "Declaration/Statement". They confirmed that letter was written by EINESTINE himself.

Ayutallah Bojwerdi  40 letters between Einstein and he becoming a to shia  is also mentioned on official website of Ayatullah bojwerdi, IRIB and Mouood. 

Save Deposited Locker in England still has this letter in it. With the name of Professor Ibrahim Mehdavi, who later gave that amount to them. But due to some security reasons letter wasn’t allowed to be taken out form there.

There are two people who witness contact of Ayatullah Bojwerdi with Einstein and he becoming a shia were, Ayatullah Ali Safi Gulpaygani and Ayatollah Lotfollah Safi Golpaygani.

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19 hours ago, Hussaini624 said:

This is really interesting actually.

Did the noor of Ale Muhammad reach Albert Einstein?

Einstein was an an Atheist of some sort. If you read his views, he seem more of a Pantheist although maybe not one, and his quote about 'science without religion is lame' defines religion as what would be generally acceptable to the atheist any way. 

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10 hours ago, SIAR14 said:

@Hussaini624 @realizm

Non-Muslim will never let you know things which went in favor of Shias. 

Einstein was working on theory of relativity E=MC2 when He got to know about the incident of Merij of Prophet (PBUH). That whole incident made him curious as it is hard for him to figure out how it is humanly possible to travel to one place to another in that sort period of time. Only light (Noor) has the ability to travel that fast from one place to another. He got to know shia Muslims not only believes that this is spiritual journey but also physical in nature. To have this information he contacted Ayatullah Bojwerdi.  There were almost 40 letters between him and Ayatullah in 1954 in which he gave reference from Nahjul Bhalaga and Bihar ul anwar regarding Miraj. Translation was done in German and English.  

It was a contract between Irani Government, Ayatullah and Einstein that these letters will be kept secret. Einstein converted to shia islam after these letters and facts shown by Ayatullah but Einstein requested Ayatullah to keep it a secret as Jews will kill him. In all those letter Einstein referred Ayatullah as THE GREAT BOJWERDI. 

Einestine wrote an article Declaration/Statemnet which was his last article. In it he quoted reference from Quran, Nahjul Bhalaga and Hadiths. He declared Islam as Perfect religion, and declared himself as 12 Imami shia.

However this letter was made hidden in England and 30 Lakh Dollar price was set for this letter. Dr Professor Ibrahim mehdavi from iran was in london at that time, He tried to gather that amount but he wasn’t able to gather. But the team of scientist went to check the authenticity of the letter "Declaration/Statement". They confirmed that letter was written by EINESTINE himself.

Ayutallah Bojwerdi  40 letters between Einstein and he becoming a to shia  is also mentioned on official website of Ayatullah bojwerdi, IRIB and Mouood. 

Save Deposited Locker in England still has this letter in it. With the name of Professor Ibrahim Mehdavi, who later gave that amount to them. But due to some security reasons letter wasn’t allowed to be taken out form there.

There are two people who witness contact of Ayatullah Bojwerdi with Einstein and he becoming a shia were, Ayatullah Ali Safi Gulpaygani and Ayatollah Lotfollah Safi Golpaygani.

:salam:

This letter story sounds like those urban legends where the last thing one person saw before dying in his sleep was this or that. Nobody has proof for it since it was behind closed doors but the story exists.

Anything consealed during time of the Shah would have been revealed after Revolution, especially if it touched western supremacy.

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Ayt Panahian  says It reasonable & acceptable  that Einstein had relation with Ayt Borujerdi & became muslim

https://youtu.be/yGVlPBD240k

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On 1/20/2018 at 12:55 PM, Intellectual Resistance said:

SubhanAllah, we are all a superstitious lot. From Hazrat Abbas throwing dozens of men into the air, to Jafar the notorious Jinn. When will we wake up and question things and stop believing everything we hear?  When will we ask for evidence in the same way we would ask for evidence if an Indian call-scammer tries to obtain our bank details for a so-called loan we have overdue? We do it for our day to day lives, but someone the criteria for evidence goes out of the window when it comes to religion. Half of the so-called quotes about Imam al-Hussain [as] from notable figures are actually fake with no sources, but plastered on the underground.

I liked your example :)

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On 1/20/2018 at 12:55 PM, Intellectual Resistance said:

SubhanAllah, we are all a superstitious lot. From Hazrat Abbas throwing dozens of men into the air, to Jafar the notorious Jinn. When will we wake up and question things and stop believing everything we hear?  When will we ask for evidence in the same way we would ask for evidence if an Indian call-scammer tries to obtain our bank details for a so-called loan we have overdue? We do it for our day to day lives, but someone the criteria for evidence goes out of the window when it comes to religion. Half of the so-called quotes about Imam al-Hussain [as] from notable figures are actually fake with no sources, but plastered on the underground.

Alber Einstein was a Secret Shia for Shia Muslims, was a secret sunni for Sunni Muslims, was a secret jew for jewish , was a secret christian for christanity , was a secret buddhist for buddhism lol...and many more... :D

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On 1/22/2018 at 4:28 AM, SIAR14 said:

@Hussaini624 @realizm

Non-Muslim will never let you know things which went in favor of Shias. 

Einstein was working on theory of relativity E=MC2 when He got to know about the incident of Merij of Prophet (PBUH). That whole incident made him curious as it is hard for him to figure out how it is humanly possible to travel to one place to another in that sort period of time. Only light (Noor) has the ability to travel that fast from one place to another. He got to know shia Muslims not only believes that this is spiritual journey but also physical in nature. To have this information he contacted Ayatullah Bojwerdi.  There were almost 40 letters between him and Ayatullah in 1954 in which he gave reference from Nahjul Bhalaga and Bihar ul anwar regarding Miraj. Translation was done in German and English.  

It was a contract between Irani Government, Ayatullah and Einstein that these letters will be kept secret. Einstein converted to shia islam after these letters and facts shown by Ayatullah but Einstein requested Ayatullah to keep it a secret as Jews will kill him. In all those letter Einstein referred Ayatullah as THE GREAT BOJWERDI. 

Einestine wrote an article Declaration/Statemnet which was his last article. In it he quoted reference from Quran, Nahjul Bhalaga and Hadiths. He declared Islam as Perfect religion, and declared himself as 12 Imami shia.

However this letter was made hidden in England and 30 Lakh Dollar price was set for this letter. Dr Professor Ibrahim mehdavi from iran was in london at that time, He tried to gather that amount but he wasn’t able to gather. But the team of scientist went to check the authenticity of the letter "Declaration/Statement". They confirmed that letter was written by EINESTINE himself.

Ayutallah Bojwerdi  40 letters between Einstein and he becoming a to shia  is also mentioned on official website of Ayatullah bojwerdi, IRIB and Mouood. 

Save Deposited Locker in England still has this letter in it. With the name of Professor Ibrahim Mehdavi, who later gave that amount to them. But due to some security reasons letter wasn’t allowed to be taken out form there.

There are two people who witness contact of Ayatullah Bojwerdi with Einstein and he becoming a shia were, Ayatullah Ali Safi Gulpaygani and Ayatollah Lotfollah Safi Golpaygani.

I feel good reading this, and happy for Einstein and Those respected leaders . Do you mind providing references to your above article, again I truly trust that it is True but a piece of information is not enough for this world, Evidence is needed...

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2 hours ago, Be Human First said:

feel good reading this, and happy for Einstein and Those respected leaders . Do you mind providing references to your above article, again I truly trust that it is True but a piece of information is not enough for this world, Evidence is needed...

Brother, I just translated the audio from urdu to english, I provided in this thread. For more authenticity you can visit websites I mentioned in this article.

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On 4/25/2018 at 8:32 PM, Ashvazdanghe said:

Ayt Panahian  says It reasonable & acceptable  that Einstein had relation with Ayt Borujerdi & became muslim

https://youtu.be/yGVlPBD240k

Can you PLEASE  provide subtitles/ translate the video in English! 

May Allah give you countless rewards, happiness and the qurb of the Ahlulbayt(a.s) for this deed! 

jazak Allah, khair, brother!

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On 1/20/2018 at 7:55 PM, Intellectual Resistance said:

SubhanAllah, we are all a superstitious lot. From Hazrat Abbas throwing dozens of men into the air, to Jafar the notorious Jinn. When will we wake up and question things and stop believing everything we hear?  When will we ask for evidence in the same way we would ask for evidence if an Indian call-scammer tries to obtain our bank details for a so-called loan we have overdue? We do it for our day to day lives, but someone the criteria for evidence goes out of the window when it comes to religion. Half of the so-called quotes about Imam al-Hussain [as] from notable figures are actually fake with no sources, but plastered on the underground.

As far as i know, lifting a door (that took 40 Men just to move that door) with one arm and using it as a shield in the battlefield seems pretty ubnoxious (in your standards) or "superstitious" yet it is still written in history and we believe it. 

Now why would throwing people in the air be something ubnoxious? Actually throwing people in the air is more humanely possible than to lift a castle door with just one hand. 

Are you able to reject the hadith about Imam Ali lifting the door of khaybar? If not then Abbas, the son of Ali can throw people in the air.

 

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On 10/8/2018 at 1:09 PM, Guest Ali said:

As far as i know, lifting a door (that took 40 Men just to move that door) with one arm and using it as a shield in the battlefield seems pretty ubnoxious (in your standards) or "superstitious" yet it is still written in history and we believe it. 

Now why would throwing people in the air be something ubnoxious? Actually throwing people in the air is more humanely possible than to lift a castle door with just one hand. 

Are you able to reject the hadith about Imam Ali lifting the door of khaybar? If not then Abbas, the son of Ali can throw people in the air.

 

You are the real hero!

Good Job.

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To all those who are denying the virtues and miracles of Moula Abbas(a.s),

Stop right there, think many times before you speak.

They(a.s) can do anything they want to and their(a.s) every action is in accordance to Allah.

Prophet Isa(a.s) gave life to dead, Imam Ali(a.s) killed and made alive  'Nusair' a few times. 

Is there any greater evidence to prove what the aal(a.s) of Prophet Muhammad(saww) can do?

Do not be 'Deaf, blind and dumb'.

Don't deny just because something is out of your understanding capacity.

You and I are very limited, remember.

And for all those who are saying Einstein did not meet Shia scholars, he was an atheist and died as atheist because wikipedia or google says so then stop it, wikipedia and google is not the final word.

Ponder, get out of your home, Go to libraries, Go to Iran, Meet people their and speak to them about Einstein, question and ponder.

Find something by your very OWN self by researching rather than concluding anybody's belief based on sources from internet.

Einstein was a man who did his own work his own research, what are all of you doing?

Just googling and typing of what you read or hear by other people.

Einstein was a scientist who needed evidence to prove that when a mass travels into space it gets converted into energy and he needed a proof to support his statement which was evident through 'Mairaj of Prophet Muhammad(saww)'.

What's the big deal in it if he took help from Iran because the incident of Mairaj is mentioned in Nehj Ul Balagha by Imam Ali(a.s) in a detailed manner. 

He may have taken it as a proof as or he may have not.

Why discussing over his belief and declaring him as a kafir?

Brothers and sisters, Our deen does not allow us to even call kafir a kafir. 

Our focus should be to learn from his findings and work along with it through Quran and the teachings of Mohamamd(saww) o Aal(a.s) e Mohammad(saww).

And I don't mean to offend anybody by these statements of mine.

Let's work together for something better.

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On 1/20/2018 at 6:36 AM, Guest Luqman said:

However, if the grand Ayatollah wanted to keep this little communication a secret

It makes no sensw after his death. But this is most likely a ridiculous fabrication based on the following three points:

* There was no apparent reason to keep it secret out of fear of being assassinated. There was no reason to keep it secret for the Ayatollah and Iranian Govt after Einstein's death. There was no reason for a scientific (in all the history of science as a serious discipline) to search for data in theological texts* (it's the other way around).

* There are no sources that can reasonably be deemed as clearly unbiased. Especially religious-related sources tend to be ridiculously biased, such as the case that Armstrong converted to Islam after hearing the Quran in space.

* This rather pitiful tendency of saying that important scientists have converted to Islam is a consequence of the Ummah's decline in science and anything that can be considered intellectual progress. Ironically, through this ridiculous attempts of deceiving people, they contribute to the ignorance that has put us in this position to begin with.

 

You can also hear this clear fabrication and say MashaAllah.

* There is a historical exception to this in the case of Imam Jafar as-Sadiq and Jabir ibn Hayyan, though Jafar as-Sadiq was an alim himself, and dedicated his life to that.

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On 1/20/2018 at 10:55 PM, Intellectual Resistance said:

SubhanAllah, we are all a superstitious lot. From Hazrat Abbas throwing dozens of men into the air, to Jafar the notorious Jinn. When will we wake up and question things and stop believing everything we hear?  When will we ask for evidence in the same way we would ask for evidence if an Indian call-scammer tries to obtain our bank details for a so-called loan we have overdue? We do it for our day to day lives, but someone the criteria for evidence goes out of the window when it comes to religion. Half of the so-called quotes about Imam al-Hussain [as] from notable figures are actually fake with no sources, but plastered on the underground.

Why did you bring Mola Abbas into this ? Are you doubtful about him that he cannot do so whose father raised door of khyber ? I am astonished to read your comment bro! Hazrat Abbas a.s was born with the dua of Ameerul Momineen, if you think that intellectualism is above miracles then I would tell you that source of intellectualism is Allah (AWJ), He (AWJ) may bend laws of nature for His pious people like He (AWJ) separated a sea into two halfs for Hazrat Moses a.s.

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