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Shias were The Founders of Salafi Movement.


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السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته 

My Shia Brothers and Sisters in Islam. May Allah Shower His Mercy & Blessings Upon You. I hope you all are Living a Good Life by The Grace of Allah All-Mighty Aameen. :grin:

For some years I was doing research on The Salafi Movement and find out that The founders of Salafism were Shias, later converted to Sunnism to promote their Shiite Ideology within Sunni Islam. Some Prominent Salafi founders were Shawkani, Asadabadi, Abdul-Haq Banarasi, Nawab Sideeq Hassan Khan & Muqbil. In Indian-Subcontinent (Pakistan, Bangladesh & India) Salafis were known as Small Shias. And Hazrat Shah Ahmad Shaheed Barailvi رحمه الله (May Allah have Mercy Upon Him) threw out Abdul Haq Banarasi from his army because Abdul Haq Banarasi was the blasphamer of Mother Ayesha رضي الله عنها (Allah is Pleased with Her). It is also known in Indian Subcontinent that ABdul Haq Banarasi once said that I have broken the Chains of Taqleed among Sunnis, now Sunnis will join Shiaism in Huge Numbers. Nawab Sideeq Hassan Khan, a famous mufti of Indian Subcontinent wrote in his Salafi fatawa books and used bad wording for Hazrat Ameer Muawiyah رضي الله عنه (Allah is Pleased with Him). Shawkani was Zaidi Shia later converted to Sunnism to promote Shiite beliefs. 

But Later Salafism was Hijacked by Shaykh Muhammad Bin Abdul Wahab رحمه الله‎ (Allah Have Mercy Upon Him) and today Salafi Sunnis or Salafi Minded Taqleedi Sunnis (For example, Deobandis) and now Salafism is Strict Anti Shia.


I would like to know your view Guys.

Jazaak Allah Khair.

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What a blunder!

I am just having trouble in this modern Sunni phenomenon that is growing up:

If you want to discredit anything or anyone, just link it to Shia, even if it was a very hardcore sunni pillar just 2 days ago.

Othman bin Affan's house was guarded by Imam Ali sons against protesters.  Does that make Othamn Sunni or Shia and if it makes him Shia, was he good or bad governor?

How losers you are to try to hang every failure of your thought school on Shia just because you are too coward to face your own disfigured religion, now that you made the whole world equates its name to terrorism?

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Just now, Chaotic Muslem said:

What a blunder!

I am just having trouble in this modern Sunni phenomenon that is growing up:

If you want to discredit anything or anyone, just link it to Shia, even if it was a very hardcore sunni pillar just 2 days ago.

Othman bin Affan's house was guarded by Imam Ali sons against protesters.  Does that make Othamn Sunni or Shia and if it makes him Shia, was he good or bad governor?

How losers you are to try to hang every failure of your thought school on Shia just because you are too coward to face your own disfigured religion, now that you made the whole world equates its name to terrorism?

I am sorry Brother If I mentioned something wrong. I just Put my research on this thread to know what is the Opinion of my Shia Brothers in this matter.

By the way, I was not blaming Shias. Just wanted to ask their Opinions.

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2 hours ago, Shah Khan said:

Some Prominent Salafi founders were Shawkani, Asadabadi, Abdul-Haq Banarasi, Nawab Sideeq Hassan Khan & Muqbil

Salam Shawkani  was an extremist (Ghulat) http://alwahabiyah.com/fa/Question/View/76385/شوکانی-سلفی-زیدی    http://wikinoor.ir/شوکانی،_محمد    http://www.wikifeqh.ir/محمد_شوکانی  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_ash-Shawkani   was under influence of Ibn Taymiyyah doctrine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Taymiyyah  http://ar.wikishia.net/view/ابن_تيمية  http://fa.wikishia.net/view/سلفیه that he was clearly Anti Shia Islam.

Asadabadi was not an extremist but he just followed the Unity doctrine.  http://en.wikishia.net/view/Sayyid_Jamal_al-Din_al-Asad_Abadi

Abdul-Haq Banarasi   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_Haq_(Afghan_leader), Nawab Sideeq Hassan Khan was from people of Hadith that  Imam al-Jawad (a) prohibited Shi'a of following them in congregational prayers and paying zakat to them.

From the questions of Shi'as and the answers of Imam al-Jawad (a) mentioned in Shi'a sources, it can be learned that during the imamate of Imam al-Jawad (a), People of Hadith, Waqifids, Zaydis and Ghulat were also active that time. People of Hadith believed in the embodiment of God and Imam al-Jawad (a) prohibited Shi'a of following them in congregational prayers and paying zakat to them.[43]

Activities of Other Sects

In answering Abu Hashim al-Ja'fari who asked about the meaning of the verse "The sights do not apprehend Him, yet He apprehends the sights" (Qur'an 6:103), Imam al-Jawad (a) rejected the possibility of seeing God by eyes (the belief in the embodiment) and said, "fantasies of the heart are more delicate than the eyesight. Human being can fantasize things he has not seen. When fantasies of the hearts cannot perceive God, how may the eyes see Him?"[44]

There are hadiths narrated from Imam al-Jawad (a) in which he (a) considered Zaydiyya and Waqifiyya similar to Nasibis.[45] He (a) said that the verses "Some faces on that day will be humbled, (2) wrought-up and weary" (Qur'an 88:2-3) were revealed about them.[46] Also, Imam al-Jawad (a) prohibited his companions from following Waqifiyya in congregational prayers.[47]

Imam al-Jawad (a) also cursed Ghulat [exaggerators] such as Abu l-Khattab and his followers. He (a) also cursed those who doubted or were silent about cursing Abu l-Khattab.[48] He (a) introduced people such as Abu l-Ghamr, Ja'far b. Waqid, and Hashim b. Abi Hashim, as followers of Abu l-Khattab and said that they abuse people in our names.[49] Also in a hadith, he (a) permitted the killing of two of Ghulat who were Abu l-Mahri and Ibn Abi Razqa' because of their role in deviation of Shi'a.[50] It is said that in letters Imam (a) sent to his deputies, prohibited Shi'a of associating with Ghulat.[citation needed]   

 

Also, Imam al-Jawad (a) addressed Muhammad b. Sinan and rejected the claim of Mufawwida about leaving the creation and management of the world to the Prophet (a).[51]

http://en.wikishia.net/view/Imam_Muhammad_b._'Ali_al-Jawad_(a)

 both of them were agents of GB & CIA that were using religion as a tool for achieving their goals & didn't follow Shia or Sunni  Islam like other Wahabists 

 Ghulat    (like as shirazi cult: Yaser Al habib , Allahyari,etc)

Muqbil

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In 1979 his stay in Saudi was ended abruptly when he was indicted on suspected involvement in the Grand Mosque Seizure. After spending a few months in prison, Grand Mufti ibn Baaz negotiated his release, though Wadi'i was forced to return to his home country; 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muqbil_bin_Hadi_al-Wadi'i

so he can't be labeled as Shia.

in conclusion except Asadabadi shia Scholars & community never accepted them but Wahbists & Al saud use their background for their Propaganda against Shia Islam mainstream. 

 

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Arabic & English Text of Ziyarat ‘Ashura

You can see posistion of Muawiah to Shia Muslims in this Ziyarat

In the Name of Allah, the Source of General Mercy to all Humanity, the Source of Specific Grace to the Believers

Peace be upon you O’ Aba ‘Abdillah; Peace be upon you O’ son of the Messenger of Allah; Peace be upon you O’ son of the Commander of the Faithful and the son of the leader of the inheritors (of the Prophet); Peace be upon you O’ son of Fatimah, the leader of the women of the entire Universe.

أَلسَّلاَمُ عَلَيْكَ يَا أَبَا عَبْدِ اللّٰهِ، أَلسَّلاَمُ عَلَيْكَ يَا بْنَ رَسُولِ اللّٰهِ، أَلسَّلاَمُ عَلَيْكَ يَا بْنَ أَمِيرِ الْـمُؤْمِنِينَ، وَابْنَ سَيِّدِ الْوَصِيِّينَ،أَلسَّلاَمُ عَلَيْكَ يَا بْنَ فَاطِمَةَ سَيِّدَةِ نِسآءِ الْعالَـمِينَ،

Peace be upon you O’ the one who was killed and whose blood has not yet been avenged – and whose avenging is in the hands of Allah and peace be upon you, the son of one who was killed and whose blood has not yet been avenged (Imam ‘Ali b. Abi Talib) and peace be upon you O’ the one who was alone, an individual (killed). Peace be upon you and also upon those souls who accompanied you to your annihilation.

أَلسَّلاَمُ عَلَيْكَ يَا ثَارَ اللّٰهِ وَابْنَ ثَارِهِ وَالْوِتْرَ الْـمَوْتُورَ، أَلسَّلاَمُ عَلَيْكَ وَعَلىٰ الأَرْوَاحِ الَّتِي حَلَّتْ بِفِنَآئِكَ،

http://www.duas.org/ashura/z_ashura.htm

https://www.al-islam.org/torch-perpetual-guidance-expose-ziyarat-ashura-ali-asghar-azizi-tehrani/arabic-english-text-ziyarat

Ziarat Ashura clip

https://www.ziaraat.org/husain/ashura.php

2 hours ago, Shah Khan said:

bad wording for Hazrat Ameer Muawiyah رضي الله عنه (Allah is Pleased with Him)

يَا أَبَا عَبْدِ اللّٰهِ، إِنِّي أَتَقَرَّبُ إِلىٰ اللّٰهِ، وَإِلىٰ رَسُولِهِ، وَإِلىٰ أَمِيرِ الْـمُؤْمِنِينَ، وَإِلىٰ فَاطِمَةَ، وَإِلىٰ الْـحَسَنِ، وَإِلَيْكَ بِـمُوَالاَتِكَ، وَبِالْبَرَاءَةِ مِـمَّـنْ قَاتَلَكَ، وَالْـجَوْرِ عَلَيْكُمْ وَأَبْرَأُ إِلىٰ اللّٰهِ وَإِلىٰ رَسُولِهِ مِـمَّنْ أَسَّسَ أَسَاسَ ذٰلِكَ وَ بَنىٰ عَلَيْهِ بُنْيَانَهُ، وَجَرىٰ فِي ظُلْمِهِ وَجَوْرِهِ عَلَيْكُمْ وَعَلىٰ أَشْيَاعِكُمْ،

I disassociate myself from them through Allah and through all of you and I seek nearness to Allah and then to you through love for you and your friends and disassociation with your enemies and from those who want to fight against you and disassociation from their adherents and followers.

بَرِئْتُ إِلىٰ اللّٰهِ وَإِلَيْكُمْ مِنْهُمْ، وَأَتَقَرَّبُ إِلىٰ اللّٰهِ ثُمَّ إِلَيْكُمْ بِـمُوَالاَتِكُمْ وَمُوَالاَةِ وَلِيِّكُمْ، وَبِالْبَرَاءَةِ مِنْ أَعْدَائِكُمْ، وَالنَّاصِبِينَ لَكُمُ الْـحَرْبَ، وَبِالْبَرَاءَةِ مِنْ أَشْيَاعِهِمْ وَأَتْبَاعِهِمْ،

Surely I am at peace with those who are at peace with you and I am at war with those who are at war with you and I am a friends to those who are friends to you and I am an enemy to those who are enemies to you.

إِنِّي سِلْمٌ لـِمَنْ سَالَـمَكُمْ، وَحَرْبٌ لِـمَنْ حَارَبَكُمْ، وَوَلِيٌّ لـِمَنْ وَالاَكُمْ، وَعَدُوٌّ لِـمَنْ عَادَاكُمْ،

So then I ask Allah who has honoured me with a cognizance of all of you and a cognizance of your friends that He also grant me the opportunity to disassociate myself from your enemies and that He place me with you – both in the transient world and also in the next life – and that he make me firm in your presence with a truthful stance both in the transient world and also the next life.

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10 minutes ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

Salam Shawkani  was an extremist (Ghulat) http://alwahabiyah.com/fa/Question/View/76385/شوکانی-سلفی-زیدی    http://wikinoor.ir/شوکانی،_محمد    http://www.wikifeqh.ir/محمد_شوکانی  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_ash-Shawkani   was under influence of Ibn Taymiyyah doctrine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Taymiyyah  http://ar.wikishia.net/view/ابن_تيمية  http://fa.wikishia.net/view/سلفیه that he was clearly Anti Shia Islam.

Asadabadi was not an extremist but he just followed the Unity doctrine.  http://en.wikishia.net/view/Sayyid_Jamal_al-Din_al-Asad_Abadi

Abdul-Haq Banarasi   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_Haq_(Afghan_leader), Nawab Sideeq Hassan Khan was from people of Hadith that  Imam al-Jawad (a) prohibited Shi'a of following them in congregational prayers and paying zakat to them.

From the questions of Shi'as and the answers of Imam al-Jawad (a) mentioned in Shi'a sources, it can be learned that during the imamate of Imam al-Jawad (a), People of Hadith, Waqifids, Zaydis and Ghulat were also active that time. People of Hadith believed in the embodiment of God and Imam al-Jawad (a) prohibited Shi'a of following them in congregational prayers and paying zakat to them.[43]

Activities of Other Sects

In answering Abu Hashim al-Ja'fari who asked about the meaning of the verse "The sights do not apprehend Him, yet He apprehends the sights" (Qur'an 6:103), Imam al-Jawad (a) rejected the possibility of seeing God by eyes (the belief in the embodiment) and said, "fantasies of the heart are more delicate than the eyesight. Human being can fantasize things he has not seen. When fantasies of the hearts cannot perceive God, how may the eyes see Him?"[44]

There are hadiths narrated from Imam al-Jawad (a) in which he (a) considered Zaydiyya and Waqifiyya similar to Nasibis.[45] He (a) said that the verses "Some faces on that day will be humbled, (2) wrought-up and weary" (Qur'an 88:2-3) were revealed about them.[46] Also, Imam al-Jawad (a) prohibited his companions from following Waqifiyya in congregational prayers.[47]

Imam al-Jawad (a) also cursed Ghulat [exaggerators] such as Abu l-Khattab and his followers. He (a) also cursed those who doubted or were silent about cursing Abu l-Khattab.[48] He (a) introduced people such as Abu l-Ghamr, Ja'far b. Waqid, and Hashim b. Abi Hashim, as followers of Abu l-Khattab and said that they abuse people in our names.[49] Also in a hadith, he (a) permitted the killing of two of Ghulat who were Abu l-Mahri and Ibn Abi Razqa' because of their role in deviation of Shi'a.[50] It is said that in letters Imam (a) sent to his deputies, prohibited Shi'a of associating with Ghulat.[citation needed]   

 

Also, Imam al-Jawad (a) addressed Muhammad b. Sinan and rejected the claim of Mufawwida about leaving the creation and management of the world to the Prophet (a).[51]

http://en.wikishia.net/view/Imam_Muhammad_b._'Ali_al-Jawad_(a)

 both of them were agents of GB & CIA that were using religion as a tool for achieving their goals & didn't follow Shia or Sunni  Islam like other Wahabists 

 Ghulat    (like as shirazi cult: Yaser Al habib , Allahyari,etc)

Muqbil

Return to Yemen[edit]

In 1979 his stay in Saudi was ended abruptly when he was indicted on suspected involvement in the Grand Mosque Seizure. After spending a few months in prison, Grand Mufti ibn Baaz negotiated his release, though Wadi'i was forced to return to his home country; 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muqbil_bin_Hadi_al-Wadi'i

so he can't be labeled as Shia.

in conclusion except Asadabadi shia Scholars & community never accepted them but Wahbists & Al saud use their background for their Propaganda against Shia Islam mainstream. 

 

Jazaak Allah Khair man for the answer. <3

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16 minutes ago, IbnSina said:

Someone told me daesh were also actually shias and that Iran and israel are actually best of friends...

a growing number of sunnis believe this now. Now i understand why they are easily lead like sheep by their incompetent leaders. 

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25 minutes ago, Chaotic Muslem said:

a growing number of sunnis believe this now. Now i understand why they are easily lead like sheep by their incompetent leaders. 

Why wouldnt they?

It is easier not to think than to think. Thinking takes effort.

It is easier to blame someone ells for everything than to admit that there is a problem within their own school of thought and to deal with it.

Got a problem? Blame the shias.

Someone stole you bike? Blame the shias.

Someone scammed you on money? Blame the shias.

Your wahabi friends joined daesh and ended up dead after doing their fair share of raping and murder? Blame the shias.

Your local sheikh told you to kill everyone that does not think like him and you find that strange? Blame the shias.

You see the best muslims of earth, the house of saud, build protective barriers against the obelisk that you used to stone during hajj because they love their zionist baba? Blame the shias.

Your favorite drugged up group of mercenaries daesh ended up killing your sunni cousin in Iraq as well and you just realized they dont give a damn about religion? Blame the shias.

You do not know much about your own religion and your not really interested in learning anything but your life sucks and your having difficulties? Blame the shias.

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18 minutes ago, IbnSina said:

Why wouldnt they?

It is easier not to think than to think. Thinking takes effort.

It is easier to blame someone ells for everything than to admit that there is a problem within their own school of thought and to deal with it.

Got a problem? Blame the shias.

Someone stole you bike? Blame the shias.

Someone scammed you on money? Blame the shias.

Your wahabi friends joined daesh and ended up dead after doing their fair share of raping and murder? Blame the shias.

Your local sheikh told you to kill everyone that does not think like him and you find that strange? Blame the shias.

You see the best muslims of earth, the house of saud, build protective barriers against the obelisk that you used to stone during hajj because they love their zionist baba? Blame the shias.

Your favorite drugged up group of mercenaries daesh ended up killing your sunni cousin in Iraq as well and you just realized they dont give a damn about religion? Blame the shias.

You do not know much about your own religion and your not really interested in learning anything but your life sucks and your having difficulties? Blame the shias.

Ya

It is Shia fault that Abbasi Caliphate went down. It is not because their caliph at that time was dancing with his sex slaves and drinking wine when Mogul army was at the fort of Baghdad NOPE, never! It was Shia fault.

 And so on and so forth.

Iran and Israel are collaborating to end up sunnis and so one and so forth

Shia are turning Sunnis to Da'esh and so on and so forth

so it is perfectly alright to say : Ibn Taymyyiah was shia guy.

Yazid (la) was Shia? I am not sure if Sunnis like him or not. If they like him, he was Sunni, if they dont, he was Shia>

 

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You have assumed this false fake belief yourself.zaidi shias are similar to sunnis they don't believe in divinity of imams.many salafi I mean wahabbis have done same.didnt Molana ishaq cursed muavia was he a Shia.didn't j.jamshed is believed to insult hazrat Ayesha r.a. He was a deobandi. What is your point?

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44 minutes ago, Jin Jin said:

You have assumed this false fake belief yourself.zaidi shias are similar to sunnis they don't believe in divinity of imams.many salafi I mean wahabbis have done same.didnt Molana ishaq cursed muavia was he a Shia.didn't j.jamshed is believed to insult hazrat Ayesha r.a. He was a deobandi. What is your point?

Maulana Ishaq Bhatti Faisalabadi رحمه الله (Allah Have Mercy Upon Him) never cursed Hazrat Ameer Muawiyah رضي الله عنه (Allah is Pleased with Him).
Junaid Jamshed 
رحمه الله (Allah have Mercy Upon Him) never cursed Mother Ayesha رضي الله عنها (Allah is Pleased with Her). He was talking about women and polygamy marriage in Islam.

Plus both are dead so I will not use bad words for them.

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40 minutes ago, Jin Jin said:

And Abdul haq banarsi and nawab Sadiq Hassan Khan were both Sunni  ahle Hadith 

I may be wrong but in my opinion they are Shia Converts. Again, my point of view can be wrong.

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1 minute ago, kirtc said:

bro how can you say may Allah be pleased with muawiya? he is the enemy of islam...

For Shias, He might be enemy but for Sunnis He is a Respectful Sahabi Companion of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH).

Proof 1: Prophet prayed to protect Muawiyah from the Punishment
قال أبو مسهر عن سعيد بن عبد العزيز عن ربيعة بن يزيد عن عبد الرحمن بن أبي عميرة - وكان من أصحاب النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم - عن النبي - صلى الله عليه وسلم - قال : ( اللهم علم معاوية الحساب وقِهِ العذاب ) .

Prophet Peace be upon him said " O Allah ! Teach Muawya Math, and protect him from the Punishment " [Ibne Asakir 16/684,686, Musnad Shameen 190] 

a) Al-Haafiz Ibn Hajar said: 

وَاتَّفَقَ أَهْلُ السُّنَّةِ عَلَى وُجُوبِ مَنْعِ الطَّعْنِ عَلَى أَحَدٍ مِنَ الصَّحَابَةِ بِسَبَبِ مَا وَقَعَ لَهُمْ مِنْ ذَلِكَ وَلَوْ عَرَفَ الْمُحِقَّ مِنْهُمْ لِأَنَّهُمْ لَمْ يُقَاتِلُوا فِي تِلْكَ الْحُرُوبِ إِلَّا عَنِ اجْتِهَادٍ وَقَدْ عَفَا اللَّهُ تَعَالَى عَنِ الْمُخْطِئِ فِي الِاجْتِهَادِ بَلْ ثَبَتَ أَنَّهُ يُؤْجَرُ أَجْرًا وَاحِدًا وَأَنَّ الْمُصِيبَ يُؤْجَرُ أَجْرَيْنِ 
Ahl as-Sunnah are unanimously agreed that it is obligatory not to slander (insult, object) any of the Sahaabah because of what happened between them because of disputes, even if ones knows which group among them was right, because they did not fight in those wars except on the basis of what they thought was right (ijtihaad), and Allah, may He be exalted, has forgiven the one who is mistaken in his ijtihaad. Indeed it is proven that he will be given one reward, and the one who gets it right will be given two rewards. [Fath al-Baari, 13/34]
 
b) Muhammad bin Abdul Wahab said:
 
" وأجمع أهل السنة على السكوت عما شجر بين الصحابة رضي الله عنهم ، ولا يقال فيهم إلا الحسنى ، فمن تكلم في معاوية أو غيره من الصحابة فقد خرج عن الإجماع " 
It is CONSENSUS of Ahlus sunnah to remain silent on disputes among the sahaba and only good should be said regarding them. If someone speak regarding Muawiyah or any other companion then he went out from the consensus. [(القسم الثالث/ مختصر سيرة الرسول صلى الله عليه وسلم/ص 322)]
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7 minutes ago, kirtc said:

bro how can you say may Allah be pleased with muawiya? he is the enemy of islam...

For more, Please visit this site : http://www.systemoflife.com/articles/refutation/166-virtues-of-muawiyah-ra#axzz53tgYoW5u

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1 hour ago, Shah Khan said:

may He be exalted, has forgiven the one who is mistaken in his ijtihaad. Indeed it is proven that he will be given one reward, and the one who gets it right will be given two rewards.

So get the 2 rewards.

It's not difficult.

Recite Ziarat Ashura.

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2 hours ago, Shah Khan said:
b) Muhammad bin Abdul Wahab said:
 
" وأجمع أهل السنة على السكوت عما شجر بين الصحابة رضي الله عنهم ، ولا يقال فيهم إلا الحسنى ، فمن تكلم في معاوية أو غيره من الصحابة فقد خرج عن الإجماع " 
It is CONSENSUS of Ahlus sunnah to remain silent on disputes among the sahaba and only good should be said regarding them. If someone speak regarding Muawiyah or any other companion then he went out from the consensus. [(القسم الثالث/ مختصر سيرة الرسول صلى الله عليه وسلم/ص 322)]

is this guy now a prophet and his words are sunna or what? 0.o

i thought shia founded the salafi movement

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muawiya(la) fought against Imam Ali(as), the rightful caliphate of his time by sunni standards, to fight against the caliph of your time is to doom yourself, there are sunni hadiths about fighting against Imam Ali(as).

Take your own hadiths seriously please:

Abu Huraira narrated: The Prophet (S) looked toward ‘Ali, al-Hasan, al-Husayn, and Fatimah, and said: "I am in the state of war with those who will fight you, and in the state of peace with those who are peaceful to you.”

The Messenger of Allah said: "Whoever hurts ‘Ali, has hurt me"

muawiya(la) ordered the cursing of Imam Ali(as) from the pulpits, this is historically recorded in your own books, and according to your own hadiths, once again:

The Messenger of Allah said: "Whoever reviles/curses ‘Ali, has reviled/cursed me"

"‘Ali Ibn Abi Talib (ra) was cursed on the pulpits (manabir) of the east and west...", during the time of Muawiyah.

Sunni reference: Mu’jam al-Buldan, al-Hamawi, v5, p38

 

The Messenger of Allah said: "Whoever curses (or verbally abuses) ‘Ali, he has, in fact, cursed me, and whoever has cursed me, he has cursed Allah, and whoever has cursed Allah, then Allah will throw him into the Hell-fire."

Sunni reference: Musnad Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, v6, p33

Thus Muawiyah and his associates were, in fact, cursing the Prophet (S), and by cursing the Prophet, they were cursing Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى, and by cursing Allah, they shall enter the hellfire! By Allah, they will be asked to account for what they’ve said! That is a promise by Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى which He shall not break!

 

 

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20 hours ago, Shah Khan said:

Maulana Ishaq Bhatti Faisalabadi رحمه الله (Allah Have Mercy Upon Him) never cursed Hazrat Ameer Muawiyah رضي الله عنه (Allah is Pleased with Him).
Junaid Jamshed 
رحمه الله (Allah have Mercy Upon Him) never cursed Mother Ayesha رضي الله عنها (Allah is Pleased with Her). He was talking about women and polygamy marriage in Islam.

 

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he was the eason of karbala because he brought a lanti yazeed into the power. moreover cursing mola ali as.holy prophet saw said only momin will love ali and cursing him is cursing me.killer of thousands of muslims including ammar bin yaser,muhammad bin abubakr,hajr bin adi.and about ammar r.a holy prophet said he will be killed by rebels.and ala modudi in khilafat and molukiat said he killed hajr bin adi and confiscated his wifes children and property by force.and ishaaq ibn rahwiya said there is not a single hadees on merits of muavya.

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On 1/11/2018 at 2:11 PM, Shah Khan said:

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته 

My Shia Brothers and Sisters in Islam. May Allah Shower His Mercy & Blessings Upon You. I hope you all are Living a Good Life by The Grace of Allah All-Mighty Aameen. :grin:

For some years I was doing research on The Salafi Movement and find out that The founders of Salafism were Shias, later converted to Sunnism to promote their Shiite Ideology within Sunni Islam. Some Prominent Salafi founders were Shawkani, Asadabadi, Abdul-Haq Banarasi, Nawab Sideeq Hassan Khan & Muqbil. In Indian-Subcontinent (Pakistan, Bangladesh & India) Salafis were known as Small Shias. And Hazrat Shah Ahmad Shaheed Barailvi رحمه الله (May Allah have Mercy Upon Him) threw out Abdul Haq Banarasi from his army because Abdul Haq Banarasi was the blasphamer of Mother Ayesha رضي الله عنها (Allah is Pleased with Her). It is also known in Indian Subcontinent that ABdul Haq Banarasi once said that I have broken the Chains of Taqleed among Sunnis, now Sunnis will join Shiaism in Huge Numbers. Nawab Sideeq Hassan Khan, a famous mufti of Indian Subcontinent wrote in his Salafi fatawa books and used bad wording for Hazrat Ameer Muawiyah رضي الله عنه (Allah is Pleased with Him). Shawkani was Zaidi Shia later converted to Sunnism to promote Shiite beliefs. 

But Later Salafism was Hijacked by Shaykh Muhammad Bin Abdul Wahab رحمه الله‎ (Allah Have Mercy Upon Him) and today Salafi Sunnis or Salafi Minded Taqleedi Sunnis (For example, Deobandis) and now Salafism is Strict Anti Shia.


I would like to know your view Guys.

Jazaak Allah Khair.

This is a lie and misconception

Where are your resources?

Seriously I just hate the fact they have to praise Muawiyah(la), like what good did he even do??? So you're saying that may Allah be pleased with him after fighting against Amir Al Mu'mineen Imam Ali(as) , poisoned the grandson of the Beloved Prophet Muhammed(sawas), hated the AhlulBayt(as), and whose son Yazid(la) the drunk pig killed and slaughtered Imam Hussain(as) sayidulshuhada?? And you still say may Allah be pleased with him?! You even say Hazrat?

This is outrageous!!!

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Salam it is not his sin that borned in a sunni or wahabi family but we must consider that he is seeking for truth &don't  blindly follow everything

I was forced to convert wahab before I choose shiism

South African sunil converts to shiism

Seem a Khan 1

Seem a Khan 2

Ameena khan 1

https://youtu.be/SrBI1zZTxkY

Amina khan 2

https://youtu.be/sWKvB1u-bC4

Daughter of Sunni Imam converts to shia 

Nouri Sardar Reborn story

https://youtu.be/Sbg8PvL3lK0

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On 1/11/2018 at 6:11 AM, Shah Khan said:

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته 

My Shia Brothers and Sisters in Islam. May Allah Shower His Mercy & Blessings Upon You. I hope you all are Living a Good Life by The Grace of Allah All-Mighty Aameen. :grin:

For some years I was doing research on The Salafi Movement and find out that The founders of Salafism were Shias, later converted to Sunnism to promote their Shiite Ideology within Sunni Islam. Some Prominent Salafi founders were Shawkani, Asadabadi, Abdul-Haq Banarasi, Nawab Sideeq Hassan Khan & Muqbil. In Indian-Subcontinent (Pakistan, Bangladesh & India) Salafis were known as Small Shias. And Hazrat Shah Ahmad Shaheed Barailvi رحمه الله (May Allah have Mercy Upon Him) threw out Abdul Haq Banarasi from his army because Abdul Haq Banarasi was the blasphamer of Mother Ayesha رضي الله عنها (Allah is Pleased with Her). It is also known in Indian Subcontinent that ABdul Haq Banarasi once said that I have broken the Chains of Taqleed among Sunnis, now Sunnis will join Shiaism in Huge Numbers. Nawab Sideeq Hassan Khan, a famous mufti of Indian Subcontinent wrote in his Salafi fatawa books and used bad wording for Hazrat Ameer Muawiyah رضي الله عنه (Allah is Pleased with Him). Shawkani was Zaidi Shia later converted to Sunnism to promote Shiite beliefs. 

But Later Salafism was Hijacked by Shaykh Muhammad Bin Abdul Wahab رحمه الله‎ (Allah Have Mercy Upon Him) and today Salafi Sunnis or Salafi Minded Taqleedi Sunnis (For example, Deobandis) and now Salafism is Strict Anti Shia.


I would like to know your view Guys.

Jazaak Allah Khair.

Thats a nice story. 

However, lets first define the "salafi" movement, then we can go from there.

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