The event of the door

[Ali Salhab]

Can somebody please type in a couple of authentic narrations of the story of the Omar bin Khattab burning the home of Imam Ali (a.s) and all the details from shia sources in like an order of events. JazakAllah khairan inshAllah

[Hassan-]

@Ali Salhab

http://www.shiapen.com/comprehensive/fadak/injustices-perpetrated-agains-fatima-as.html

https://www.al-islam.org/shiite-encyclopedia-ahlul-bayt-dilp-team/attacking-house-fatimah

[Ali Salhab]

@Hassan- Thank you for the reply.

[Mansur Bakhtiari]

 

43 / 43 - حدثني أبو الحسين محمد بن هارون بن موسى التلعكبري قال : حدثني أبي قال : حدثني أبو علي محمد بن همام بن سهيل قال : روى أحمد بن محمد بن البرقي عن أحمد بن محمد الأشعري القمي عن عبد الرحمن بن أبي نجران عن عبد الله بن سنان عن ابن مسكان عن أبي بصير عن أبي عبد الله جعفر بن محمد ع قال : ولدت فاطمة ع في جمادى الآخرة يوم العشرين منه سنة خمس وأربعين من مولد النبي (صلى الله عليه وآله). وأقامت بمكة ثمان سنين وبالمدينة عشر سنين وبعد وفاة أبيها خمسة وسبعين يوما . وقبضت في جمادي الآخرة يوم الثلاثاء لثلاث خلون منه سنة إحدى عشرة من الهجرة . وكان سبب وفاتها أن قنفذا مولى عمر لكزها بنعل السيف بأمره فأسقطت محسنا ومرضت من ذلك مرضا شديدا ولم تدع أحدا ممن آذاها يدخل عليها . وكان الرجلان من أصحاب النبي (صلى الله عليه وآله) سألا أمير المؤمنين أن يشفع لهما إليها فسألها أمير المؤمنين ع فأجابت فلما دخلا عليها قالا لها : كيف أنت يا بنت رسول الله ؟ قالت : بخير بحمد الله . ثم قالت لهما : ما سمعتما النبي (صلى الله عليه وآله) يقول : " فاطمة بضعة مني فمن آذاها فقد آذاني ومن آذاني فقد آذى الله " ؟ قالا : بلى . قالت : فوالله لقد آذيتماني . قال : فخرجا من عندها وهي ساخطة عليهما
Narrated from Abul Hussain Muhammad b. Haroon b. Musa al Tala'kabari, from my father, from Abu Ali Muhammad b. Hammam b. Suhail from Ahmad b. Muhammad b. Khalid al Barqi from Ahmad b. Muhammad al Asha'ri al Qumi, from Abdur Rahman b. abi Najran, from Abdullah b. sinan, from ibn Muskan, from abi Basir, from Abi Abdillah Ja'far b. Muhammad (as), who said:
Fatima was born on the 20th of Jamadiul Akhir, when the Prophet (pbuh) was 45 years old. She resided in Mecca for 8 years, and in Medina for 10 years. She lived for 75 days after the death of the Prophet (pbuh). She died on the 3rd of Jamadi al Thani, 11 AH. The cause of her death was that Qunfuz, the slave of Umar, struck her with the handle of his sword as per Umar's order, which caused the miscarriage of her unborn son Muhsin and she became extremely sick. She did not allow anyone from her oppressors to approach her. The two men (who had oppressed her) were from the companions of the Prophet (pbuh). They requested Ali (as) to intercede to Fatima for them. Ali (as) asked her and she replied (granting them permission to talk to her). So when they approached her, they (audaciously) asked her: “How are you, O daughter of the Prophet (pbuh)?” She replied: “I am fine, by the grace of Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى.” Then she confronted them: “Had you both not heard the Prophet (pbuh) say: Fatima is a part of me, whoever angers her angers me, and whoever angers me angers Allah??” They said: “Indeed.” She said: “So by Allah you have angered me."

Source: Dala'il al-Imamah, Sheikh Muhammad bin Jarir Tabari, Page 134,

The link is to the book al-Hujum ala Bayt Fatimah (as) which has many more narrations in this regard, though I think a lot of them might be weak. This is Sheikh Mansour Leghaei's answer:

Question:

Can you please provide reliable Shia and Sunni sources on the event that led to martyrdom of Lady Fatima al-Zahra (a.s.)?

Answer:

The Eminent Sheikh At-Tusi wrote: “One of the denied facts is that they (Umar and his followers) hit Fatima (the blessing of Allah be upon her) although it has been narrated that they flogged her with a strip and a famous opinion that no one amongst the Shia scholars dispute about, is that Umar hit her on her stomach (womb) until she was forced to have a miscarriage, where the miscarried baby was named Mohassan. The narration (of the event) is even famous amongst them (the Sunnis), as well as the narration of their intention to burn her house when a group of sincere companions who had refused to pay allegiance and sought refuge to her house. And no one can deny this narration because we have proven it from amongst the Sunni sources through the narration of Al-Balathari and others, and the Shia narrations are numerous and our scholars indisputably accept them.”
(Talkhis Al-Shafi 3:156)

 As for the Shia narrations, it suffices to mention a few of them.

1) Ibn Qawlawayh narrated in his book ‘Kamilul Ziyarat’ in a reliable hadith from Hammad Bin ‘Uthman from Imam Al-Sadiq (a.s.): On the night of the Prophet’s ascension, it was said to him (the Prophet): “Allah will test you in three things” and he started counting them… then he said “as for your daughter, she will be oppressed and deprived (of her right) and her right (to Fadak) that you will give to her will be seized from her and she will be hit while she is pregnant, and her house (and privacy of her family) will be entered without permission, then weakness and humiliation will be inflicted upon her and she will not be able to prevent it, and she will miscarry her baby from all the hits she will suffer, and she will die as a result of those hits … and the murder of Muhassan bin Ali will be the first crime that the killer (Umar) will be accountable, and then Qunfuth, so they will both attend (the judgement).” (Kamilul Ziyarat 232)

2) Yunus bin Ya’qub has narrated from Imam Al-Sadiq (a.s.) that the Imam said: O Yunus! My grandfather the Messenger of Allah said “Cursed is the one who will oppress my daughter Fatima after I die, and seize her right and kill her!” (Kanzul Fawa-id 1:149)

3) Al-Kulayni has narrated from Abi Basir from Imam Al-Sadiq (a.s.) who said: Amir Al-mumineen (i.e. Imam Ali) said: “Your miscarried babies whom you do not name before they die, will meet you on the Day of Judgement, and the baby will ask it’s father “Did you not give me a name?” Verily the Messenger of Allah (s.a.w.s.) named Muhassan before he was to be born.” (Al-Kafi 6:18)

4) Muhammad bin Harun Al-Talakbari has narrated in a reliable narration from Abi Basir from Imam Al-Sadiq (a.s.) who said: Fatima was born on the twentieth day of Jamadil-akhira, forty-five years after the birth of the Prophet. And the cause of her death was that Qunfuth, the slave of the man (i.e. Abu Bakr), by the command of his master (Abu Bakr), hit her with his sword, from which she miscarried Muhassan, and she became severely ill from this event. And she did not allow anyone of those whom harmed her to enter her house. There were two of the companions of the Prophet (i.e. Umar and Abu Bakr) who asked Amir Al-mumineen (Imam Ali) to intercede on their behalf (and ask Fatima to allow them to enter). He (Imam Ali) asked her and she permitted (for them to enter). When they entered, they remarked “How are you O daughter of the Messenger of Allah?” She replied “I am well, praise to Allah”. Then she told them both, “Have you not heard the Prophet say “Fatima is a part of me, whosoever hurts her has in fact hurt me, and whoever hurts me has in fact hurt Allah”?” They both affirmed that. She said “I swear by Allah that you have both hurt me.” So they both left the house and she was displeased with them.   (Dala-il Al-Imamah 45)

5) Sayyed Bin Tawoos has narrated in his book Al-Turaf on the authority of Imam Al-Kathim (a.s.) who said: When the Messenger of Allah was in the last stages of his life, he summoned people of the Ansar and told them “Verily Fatima’s door is my door and her house is my house, whosoever violates it has in fact violated the sanctity of Allah.” The Imam cried for a while and could not continue his words, then he said: “I swear by Allah, the sanctity of Allah has been violated! I swear by Allah, the sanctity of Allah has been violated! I swear by Allah, the sanctity of Allah has been violated! O my mother, blessings of Allah upon her!”  (Bihar Al-Anwar 22:476).

Allah’s peace and blessings be upon Lady Fatima, the day she was born, the day she passed away, and the day she will be resurrected.

http://www.askthesheikh.com/can-you-provide-reliable-shiasunni-sources-on-martyrdom-of-lady-fatima-al-zahra-a-s/

[Ali Salhab]

@Mansur BakhtiariThank you brother. I appreciate the lengthy reply.

[Husayni]

48 minutes ago, Mansur Bakhtiari said:

 

43 / 43 - حدثني أبو الحسين محمد بن هارون بن موسى التلعكبري قال : حدثني أبي قال : حدثني أبو علي محمد بن همام بن سهيل قال : روى أحمد بن محمد بن البرقي عن أحمد بن محمد الأشعري القمي عن عبد الرحمن بن أبي نجران عن عبد الله بن سنان عن ابن مسكان عن أبي بصير عن أبي عبد الله جعفر بن محمد ع قال : ولدت فاطمة ع في جمادى الآخرة يوم العشرين منه سنة خمس وأربعين من مولد النبي (صلى الله عليه وآله). وأقامت بمكة ثمان سنين وبالمدينة عشر سنين وبعد وفاة أبيها خمسة وسبعين يوما . وقبضت في جمادي الآخرة يوم الثلاثاء لثلاث خلون منه سنة إحدى عشرة من الهجرة . وكان سبب وفاتها أن قنفذا مولى عمر لكزها بنعل السيف بأمره فأسقطت محسنا ومرضت من ذلك مرضا شديدا ولم تدع أحدا ممن آذاها يدخل عليها . وكان الرجلان من أصحاب النبي (صلى الله عليه وآله) سألا أمير المؤمنين أن يشفع لهما إليها فسألها أمير المؤمنين ع فأجابت فلما دخلا عليها قالا لها : كيف أنت يا بنت رسول الله ؟ قالت : بخير بحمد الله . ثم قالت لهما : ما سمعتما النبي (صلى الله عليه وآله) يقول : " فاطمة بضعة مني فمن آذاها فقد آذاني ومن آذاني فقد آذى الله " ؟ قالا : بلى . قالت : فوالله لقد آذيتماني . قال : فخرجا من عندها وهي ساخطة عليهما
Narrated from Abul Hussain Muhammad b. Haroon b. Musa al Tala'kabari, from my father, from Abu Ali Muhammad b. Hammam b. Suhail from Ahmad b. Muhammad b. Khalid al Barqi from Ahmad b. Muhammad al Asha'ri al Qumi, from Abdur Rahman b. abi Najran, from Abdullah b. sinan, from ibn Muskan, from abi Basir, from Abi Abdillah Ja'far b. Muhammad (as), who said:
Fatima was born on the 20th of Jamadiul Akhir, when the Prophet (pbuh) was 45 years old. She resided in Mecca for 8 years, and in Medina for 10 years. She lived for 75 days after the death of the Prophet (pbuh). She died on the 3rd of Jamadi al Thani, 11 AH. The cause of her death was that Qunfuz, the slave of Umar, struck her with the handle of his sword as per Umar's order, which caused the miscarriage of her unborn son Muhsin and she became extremely sick. She did not allow anyone from her oppressors to approach her. The two men (who had oppressed her) were from the companions of the Prophet (pbuh). They requested Ali (as) to intercede to Fatima for them. Ali (as) asked her and she replied (granting them permission to talk to her). So when they approached her, they (audaciously) asked her: “How are you, O daughter of the Prophet (pbuh)?” She replied: “I am fine, by the grace of Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى.” Then she confronted them: “Had you both not heard the Prophet (pbuh) say: Fatima is a part of me, whoever angers her angers me, and whoever angers me angers Allah??” They said: “Indeed.” She said: “So by Allah you have angered me."

Source: Dala'il al-Imamah, Sheikh Muhammad bin Jarir Tabari, Page 134,

The link is to the book al-Hujum ala Bayt Fatimah (as) which has many more narrations in this regard, though I think a lot of them might be weak. This is Sheikh Mansour Leghaei's answer:

Question:

Can you please provide reliable Shia and Sunni sources on the event that led to martyrdom of Lady Fatima al-Zahra (a.s.)?

Answer:

The Eminent Sheikh At-Tusi wrote: “One of the denied facts is that they (Umar and his followers) hit Fatima (the blessing of Allah be upon her) although it has been narrated that they flogged her with a strip and a famous opinion that no one amongst the Shia scholars dispute about, is that Umar hit her on her stomach (womb) until she was forced to have a miscarriage, where the miscarried baby was named Mohassan. The narration (of the event) is even famous amongst them (the Sunnis), as well as the narration of their intention to burn her house when a group of sincere companions who had refused to pay allegiance and sought refuge to her house. And no one can deny this narration because we have proven it from amongst the Sunni sources through the narration of Al-Balathari and others, and the Shia narrations are numerous and our scholars indisputably accept them.”
(Talkhis Al-Shafi 3:156)

 As for the Shia narrations, it suffices to mention a few of them.

1) Ibn Qawlawayh narrated in his book ‘Kamilul Ziyarat’ in a reliable hadith from Hammad Bin ‘Uthman from Imam Al-Sadiq (a.s.): On the night of the Prophet’s ascension, it was said to him (the Prophet): “Allah will test you in three things” and he started counting them… then he said “as for your daughter, she will be oppressed and deprived (of her right) and her right (to Fadak) that you will give to her will be seized from her and she will be hit while she is pregnant, and her house (and privacy of her family) will be entered without permission, then weakness and humiliation will be inflicted upon her and she will not be able to prevent it, and she will miscarry her baby from all the hits she will suffer, and she will die as a result of those hits … and the murder of Muhassan bin Ali will be the first crime that the killer (Umar) will be accountable, and then Qunfuth, so they will both attend (the judgement).” (Kamilul Ziyarat 232)

2) Yunus bin Ya’qub has narrated from Imam Al-Sadiq (a.s.) that the Imam said: O Yunus! My grandfather the Messenger of Allah said “Cursed is the one who will oppress my daughter Fatima after I die, and seize her right and kill her!” (Kanzul Fawa-id 1:149)

3) Al-Kulayni has narrated from Abi Basir from Imam Al-Sadiq (a.s.) who said: Amir Al-mumineen (i.e. Imam Ali) said: “Your miscarried babies whom you do not name before they die, will meet you on the Day of Judgement, and the baby will ask it’s father “Did you not give me a name?” Verily the Messenger of Allah (s.a.w.s.) named Muhassan before he was to be born.” (Al-Kafi 6:18)

4) Muhammad bin Harun Al-Talakbari has narrated in a reliable narration from Abi Basir from Imam Al-Sadiq (a.s.) who said: Fatima was born on the twentieth day of Jamadil-akhira, forty-five years after the birth of the Prophet. And the cause of her death was that Qunfuth, the slave of the man (i.e. Abu Bakr), by the command of his master (Abu Bakr), hit her with his sword, from which she miscarried Muhassan, and she became severely ill from this event. And she did not allow anyone of those whom harmed her to enter her house. There were two of the companions of the Prophet (i.e. Umar and Abu Bakr) who asked Amir Al-mumineen (Imam Ali) to intercede on their behalf (and ask Fatima to allow them to enter). He (Imam Ali) asked her and she permitted (for them to enter). When they entered, they remarked “How are you O daughter of the Messenger of Allah?” She replied “I am well, praise to Allah”. Then she told them both, “Have you not heard the Prophet say “Fatima is a part of me, whosoever hurts her has in fact hurt me, and whoever hurts me has in fact hurt Allah”?” They both affirmed that. She said “I swear by Allah that you have both hurt me.” So they both left the house and she was displeased with them.   (Dala-il Al-Imamah 45)

5) Sayyed Bin Tawoos has narrated in his book Al-Turaf on the authority of Imam Al-Kathim (a.s.) who said: When the Messenger of Allah was in the last stages of his life, he summoned people of the Ansar and told them “Verily Fatima’s door is my door and her house is my house, whosoever violates it has in fact violated the sanctity of Allah.” The Imam cried for a while and could not continue his words, then he said: “I swear by Allah, the sanctity of Allah has been violated! I swear by Allah, the sanctity of Allah has been violated! I swear by Allah, the sanctity of Allah has been violated! O my mother, blessings of Allah upon her!”  (Bihar Al-Anwar 22:476).

Allah’s peace and blessings be upon Lady Fatima, the day she was born, the day she passed away, and the day she will be resurrected.

http://www.askthesheikh.com/can-you-provide-reliable-shiasunni-sources-on-martyrdom-of-lady-fatima-al-zahra-a-s/

Salam, I have a question.

Why are there so many different versions of this event?

[Ashvazdanghe]

5 hours ago, Hussaini624 said:

Salam, I have a question.

Why are there so many different versions of this event?

Salam It think  it comes from different point of views

[IloveImamHussain]

7 hours ago, Hussaini624 said:

Why are there so many different versions of this event?

That is the nature of history in general and Islamic history in particular.

Every narrator adds or subtracts something because he doesn't like everything that he hears, and therefore changes it suitably. 

[just a muslim]

7 hours ago, Hussaini624 said:

Salam, I have a question.

Why are there so many different versions of this event?

maybe, just maybe, because it is not true and someone just fabricated it? no? (bracing myself for the storm that this comment will get :P)

9 minutes ago, IloveImamHussain said:

That is the nature of history in general and Islamic history in particular.

Every narrator adds or subtracts something because he doesn't like everything that he hears, and therefore changes it suitably. 

lol my brother i wiould like you to propose this theory to a muhaddith,, any muhaddith, and would love to watch how he destroys you. if "Every narrator adds or subtracts something because he doesn't like everything that he hears", then there are no authentic narrators. 

Edited February 5, 2018 by just a muslim

[IloveImamHussain]

Just now, just a muslim said:

if "Every narrator adds or subtracts something because he doesn't like everything that he hears", then there are no authentic narrators. 

You are right brother.

I meant "most." 

[Haimid]

3 minutes ago, just a muslim said:

(bracing myself for the storm that this comment will get :P)

you already answered yourself brother.

[just a muslim]

1 minute ago, IloveImamHussain said:

You are right brother.

I meant "most." 

better. but still not entirely correct. if most of the narrators did this, in general hadith literature or in this specific hadith, then most of the ahadith which have different contradictory versions would be regarded as unauthentic. which is not the case. 

and talking about this particular hadith, who is to say ALL of them werent doing it?

[IloveImamHussain]

52 minutes ago, just a muslim said:

better. but still not entirely correct.

Thanks brother for your comment.

However, please note that hadith books contain only a small part of all the hadiths that were churned out.

So if you consider all the narrators who have ever contributed to the hadith corpus, you will find that "most" tweaked a bit or more.

Edited February 5, 2018 by IloveImamHussain