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Nigerian Army Arrests Sheikh Zakzaky, Kills Sons

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6 minutes ago, mesbah said:

What saddens me most is that in similar cases there have been more activities on SC, but for this one ...

when some dancers are killed the whole globe is on the alert, in  a Shia website like SC long pages are dedicated to different analysis and perspectives about that incedent, yet when Shia are killed in such a brutal way, there's no similar attention given to the matter. even in shia website. 

again shows how much our minds, perspectives, priorities, ideals etc are controlled by  "others".

Do you think it's because they are (black) African?

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On 12/15/2015 at 10:00 AM, Ali_Hussain said:

Do you think it's because they are (black) African?

I think it's more due to the fact that most of us don't know much about Nigeria or about Sheikh Zakzaky. We think of Sheikh Zakzaky as the Sayyed Hassan of Nigeria, but we don't actually know anything about him other than that. We know that the number of Shias in Nigeria have exploded in recent years, and we like it, but again: we don't know anything aside from that. During Muharram we will post pictures of their jaloos all over facebook, that's it. We don't know about their internal politics, or why the government there is oppressing them.

I'm not saying ignorance is a good thing, I'm saying: how can we have a long, analytical discussion about something we are ignorant of? Those among us who are more learned on the situation should lead the way and educate us.

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3 hours ago, Ali_Hussain said:

Do you think it's because they are (black) African?

I don't like to think like that, but it seems that's part of the story, add to that they are neither Arab, nor persian, they seem to be very alone. may Allah help them. 

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On 12/15/2015 at 12:30 PM, baradar_jackson said:

I think it's more due to the fact that most of us don't know much about Nigeria or about Sheikh Zakzaky. We think of Sheikh Zakzaky as the Sayyed Hassan of Nigeria, but we don't actually know anything about him other than that. We know that the number of Shias in Nigeria have exploded in recent years, and we like it, but again: we don't know anything aside from that. During Muharram we will post pictures of their jaloos all over facebook, that's it. We don't know about their internal politics, or why the government there is oppressing them.

I'm not saying ignorance is a good thing, I'm saying: how can we have a long, analytical discussion about something we are ignorant of? Those among us who are more learned on the situation should lead the way and educate us.

baradar, awareness about our shia brothers and their situation does not fall from the sky, it is the result of the very discussions we have here in SC, even with less-knowledge, but a little more care and sympathy. you can't say we don't discuss about them because we don't know much about them; this is a kind of excuse that is worse than the mistake (ozre-e badtar as gonah) if we cared well enough, we could have discussed.

they have every right to gain our attention even before such an incident, sadly they continue being in our blind spot even after this tragic event.

may Allah help them and guide us.

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On 12/15/2015 at 10:00 AM, Ali_Hussain said:

Do you think it's because they are (black) African?

here is an attack on shia in pakistan , not much attention though.

http://www.shiachat.com/forum/topic/235034059-revenge-of-syria-on-pak-shias/

previous attacks this month, this year in pakistan and afghanistan and else where like Iraq were not covered as well. I think we somewhat get used to these sort of news, and expected them ...

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Allah protects him and curses the enemies of Islam and Shia who do for the arrogant powers. of course the enemies of Islam have understood that the  Shia is the only sects that is against the tyranny and ignorance.

The arrogant powers haven't the problem with the name of Islam or with some actions like prayer and fasting and hajj, but their problems refer to the teachings of Shia that rejects the oppressors.

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[..], he was detained. Nobody was killed. Anyways that is price you pay if you try spreading Iranian agenda and turning the region into Persian Empire. We all know how it starts, you try spreading your ideology until you become at least 10%. Then with Western support you take the country into civil war and try conquering it. No more of that. 

 

20 hours ago, alirex said:

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Stupid meme, Iran's leaders could care less about Israel. Obama is their best friend. You should be thanking Obama..[inappropriate language removed]

Edited by notme
False accusation, inappropriate language

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On 12/16/2015 at 4:09 AM, FalconofMisk said:

[..], he was detained. Nobody was killed. Anyways that is price you pay if you try spreading Iranian agenda and turning the region into Persian Empire. We all know how it starts, you try spreading your ideology until you become at least 10%. Then with Western support you take the country into civil war and try conquering it. No more of that. 

Stupid meme, Iran's leaders could care less about Israel. Obama is their best friend. You should be thanking Obama..[inappropriate language removed]

Where dose it say in Quran that those who spread Iranian Agenda deserve to be killed?

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Some reports are there , more then 3000 people got killed by Nigerian Army.

Zeenat, the wife of the leader of Islamic Movement of Nigeria, Ibrahim Zakzaky, and Aliy, Mr. Zakzaky’s son, were among the scores of people killed during a siege on the sect’s enclave by the Nigerian Army on Saturday, the group has said.

The movement in a statement by Ibrahim Musa, head of its Media Forum, said apart from Mr. Zakzaky’s son and wife, other prominent leaders of the group were also killed.

 

Graphic Video : Nigerian army brutally killing Shiite members in Zaria, Kaduna state

http://en.abna24.com/service/africa/archive/2015/12/14/724795/story.html

 

Thousands of Nigerian Shiite Muslims protest killing of their leader’s family, others by bloodthirsty Army / Pics

http://en.abna24.com/service/africa/archive/2015/12/14/724783/story.html

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On 12/16/2015 at 4:09 AM, FalconofMisk said:

[..], he was detained. Nobody was killed. Anyways that is price you pay if you try spreading Iranian agenda and turning the region into Persian Empire. We all know how it starts, you try spreading your ideology until you become at least 10%. Then with Western support you take the country into civil war and try conquering it. No more of that. 

Stupid meme, Iran's leaders could care less about Israel. Obama is their best friend. You should be thanking Obama..[inappropriate language removed]

So Iran incites civil wars with Western support, Iran doesn't care about Israel, and Iran and Obama are best friends.

Prove it. Just a slither of evidence. If you don't mind. kthx

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British papers takes every opportunity to portray Shiism as a Safavid creation :        

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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/16/human-rights-groups-demand-probe-into-nigerian-army-raid-on-shia-muslims

Iran, seen as the guardian of the Shia Muslim faith, condemned the killings'.....

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Nigeria’s Shia Muslims, a movement of millions, started 37 years ago by Zakzaky, who dresses in the robes and turban of an Iranian ayatollah.'

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