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Jerusalem is the Capital of Palestine

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2 hours ago, shiaman14 said:

All of us are blaming America and Trump.

If the governments of all Muslim countries decide to boycott American goods entirely, Israel will cease to exist in less than 1 month.

 

Hypocrisy is currently everywhere in the Islamic world, The Arab nations especially because they care more about generating wealth than the wellbeing of other Muslims. 

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21 minutes ago, hasanhh said:Why can't Jerusalem be the capital of two countries?

Why can't Jerusalem be the capital of two countries?

Vienna was for Austro-Hungary. Berlin could have been.

Besides, as l found out yesterday, the Knesset has been in Jerusalem since ~1955 or thereafter.

AustroHungarian Empire had two capitals. One in Vienna and the other in Budapest because they unified peacefully and in agreement under one monarch which promised autonomy for both Austrians and Hungarians with defined borders within the kingdom. 

Maybe they could divide Jerusalem but I don’t like the thought of such a holy place being divided over a political dispute that started in 1947 when the city was there thousands of years before. 

I would like the idea of Israel being an autonomous region within a greater Palestine. Or similar to the Austro Hungarians form an Israeli - Palestinian state with two capitals - East and west Jerusalem. 

 

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Just now, Wholehearted Shi'a said:

 

I would like the idea of Israel being an autonomous region within a greater Palestine. Or similar to the Austro Hungarians form an Israeli - Palestinian state with two capitals -

East and West Jerusalem

 

That is what l am advocating. l'm sorry l didn't make myself clear.

I will add: why not the US put its Embassies on the Dividing Line. Have the Embassy to Israel on one side and the Embassy to the PA on the other side. The line twists and turns so East and West may be inappropriate.

What almost surprised me is that protests have been mild --comparatively. The Hamas call for another intifada turned out to be an in-ti-flop-per.  I stopped the video of the protests today and counted the protesters. Nearly entirely teenagers. Fifty here, thirty in another seen. Guessing twenty at a third protest.

When Hamas shot a couple of sugar rockets l am happy that lsrael responded with only a "at the  launch point" bombing reply. Thumbs Up!

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55 minutes ago, Wholehearted Shi'a said:

AustroHungarian Empire had two capitals. One in Vienna and the other in Budapest because they unified peacefully and in agreement under one monarch which promised autonomy for both Austrians and Hungarians with defined borders within the kingdom. 

Maybe they could divide Jerusalem but I don’t like the thought of such a holy place being divided over a political dispute that started in 1947 when the city was there thousands of years before. 

I would like the idea of Israel being an autonomous region within a greater Palestine. Or similar to the Austro Hungarians form an Israeli - Palestinian state with two capitals - East and west Jerusalem. 

 

Just have one country with christians, muslims and jews living together with Jerusalem as its capital, no one religion controls the city. 

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:salam:

Al Quds is the city of all religions, and this was guaranteed during Arab Islamic rule. 

Jerusalem as the capital of Zionism will force all religions out of its wall.

May Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى punish the sons of Yajuj and Majuj, and those among Bani Israil who allied with them.

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Bismehe Ta3ala,

Assalam Alikum 

Monday schools out early in Dahiya to turn out for a massive demonstration in Beirut.  

Hope you guys can make it!

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http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Lebanon-News/2017/Dec-09/429583-thousands-join-latest-slebanon-protests-against-jerusalem-designation.ashx

 

M3 Salamah, FE AMIN Allah 

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50 minutes ago, Laayla said:

Bismehe Ta3ala,

Assalam Alikum 

Monday schools out early in Dahiya to turn out for a massive demonstration in Beirut.  

Hope you guys can make it!

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@kirtc

@Yasmeena

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Lebanon-News/2017/Dec-09/429583-thousands-join-latest-slebanon-protests-against-jerusalem-designation.ashx

 

M3 Salamah, FE AMIN Allah 

Salam, 

I am going because it is a duty. But, other than a show of numbers, I don't see a purpose for these demonstrations... 

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4 minutes ago, Haji 2003 said:

Let's face it, the people who control Jerusalem are those with the bigger guns. That's always been the case and it's been the case more often than instances when control has been based on moral or religious legitimacy.

The Pals have lost. They lost a very long time ago.

Their loss of land and rights has been more gradual than it otherwise would have been for the convenience of the imperial powers.

They are now about to be sold down the river by the Saudis.

Lost? It is not over and until the fat lady sings... and that fat lady is Gabriel's horn...

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Listen, this is not about Palestinians. Yes we support our brothers even though some of them hate us. But this is not about them, this is about the Aqsa Mosque.. As a muslim you should defend it. It has been usurped from us and we have a legitimate Jihad agreed on by all ullema to get it back... (unless of course you are a shirazi/habibi in which case you sit back do nothing and curse omar and abu bakr all day until the wahabis and zionists kill themselves of boredom.)

This grab was a step the zionists took to hasten the arrival of their messaih the dajjal... It is all part of the grand plan.. in which be sure at the end we will be victorious... 
Soon the Sauds will openly ally with Israel and start WW3 against the shias... and know he will be near.

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Bismehe Ta3ala 
Assalam Alikum
Let the pictures and article speak for itself.
M3 Salamah, FE AMIN Allah 
 
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Dec. 10, 2017 | 10:47 AM (Last Updated: December 10, 2017 | 06:08 PM)

Protests at US Embassy in Lebanon turn violent

BEIRUT: Demonstrations near the U.S. Embassy Sunday turned violent as protesters took to the streets to denounce U.S. President Donald Trump's decision to recognize occupied Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

Security forces suppressed the demonstrations with water cannons and tear gas. Later in the afternoon riot police assaulted protesters and journalists attempting to cover the clashes.

The Internal Security Forces released a statement Sunday evening saying they had intervened after protestors "insisted on carrying out a riot and did not keep the peace during the sit-in."

The statement added that, "19 members of the Internal Security Forces were wounded and one of them underwent surgery due to a minor injury to the face," while not presenting any figures on the number of civilians wounded.

Protesters, who gathered in a square in Metn’s Awkar at around 9 a.m. about a kilometer away from the embassy, threw rocks and burned tires. Metal gates and barbed wire had been erected to further prevent protestors from getting close to the already fortified and guarded embassy entrance.

Protesters also burned an effigy of Donald Trump and set fire to American and Israeli flags.

More demonstrators started joining the crowds later in the morning and were forced back by as they attempted to scale the security fences.

By noon, the demonstration had calmed and the gathered crowd sang revolutionary songs. Around an hour later, fresh clashes broke out and security forces showered the square with tear gas and charged towards protesters. Al-Jadeed TV showed riot police beating a bloodied protester on the head with a club, surrounding him and kicking him on the ground.

One police officer swatted the phone out of The Daily Star reporter’s hand as she attempted to film security forces beating a young demonstrator.

Riot police also beat a crowd of people who were gathered beside a team of Lebanese Red Cross ambulances. George Kettaneh, Secretary-General of the LRC said there were 42 staff members in site. Eight people were hospitalized for their injuries while 57 were treated at the scene, Kettaneh told The Daily Star.

Al-Jadeed reported that police shot tear gas canisters directly at protesters.

One man was seen injured with what appeared to be a tear gas canister or rubber bullet wound, but the use of rubber bullets by security forces could not be confirmed.

Local media reported that 10 people were arrested – four Lebanese and six Palestinians. This report was later confirmed by the ISF. Police held detainees on a road leading to the main highway that was blocked off. One woman told The Daily Star she saw police beating detainees.

The number of those arrested could not immediately be confirmed.

A woman told LDC news channel that her brother had been detained, and said security forces had attacked the protesters unprovoked.

Some of the homes in Awkar were damaged or vandalized in the midst of the clashes.

Protesters waved Palestinian flags and flags of various Palestinian political and Islamic factions. The Lebanese, Syrian, Hezbollah and Iranian flags were also seen in the crowd, while many wore the Palestinian keffiyeh.

In addition to the Palestinian and Lebanese demonstrators, foreign nationals including Americans, Italians and Australians also showed up to protest in solidarity with Palestine.

Head of the Lebanese communist party, Hana Gharib, in a midmorning speech, called on Lebanon and all Arab states to end all cooperation with the United States and to expel all their U.S. ambassadors.

One angry demonstrator echoed the sentiment to Al-Jadeed news, saying, “We want to burn the embassy and everything inside it. The U.S. ambassador should not stay there.”

He also accused Arab states of having a vested interest in maintaining the status quo with Israel. “All Arab leaders are traitors and are stopping people from heading to Jerusalem,” he said, saying that hundreds of protesters would be marching from Lebanon to Jerusalem if it weren’t for Arab leaders “having some kind of interest with Israel.”

The Syrian Social Nationalist Party decided to back off from the center demonstrations, in rejection of the protesters’ behavior, especially for “attacking the Army, ISF, and citizens’ property,” a representative of the group told MTV from the edge of the protests.

Ahead of the anticipated protest, security forces made preparations in Awkar Sunday morning, cutting off all roads leading to the embassy.

The Army, Internal Security Forces and the riot police imposed tight security measures in areas surrounding the embassy before the demonstration, which was scheduled in the wake of Trump’s announcement Wednesday to recognize Jerusalem as the Israeli capital and move the U.S. Embassy there from Tel Aviv.

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Ghinwa Obeid| The Daily Star
Dec. 11, 2017 | 02:58 PM (Last Updated: December 11, 2017 | 06:46 PM)

Nasrallah calls for third Palestinian intifada

 

 

BEIRUT: Hezbollah Secretary-General Sayyed Hasan Nasrallah said Monday that the best response to U.S. President Donald Trump’s decision on Jerusalem was to call for another intifada.

In an fiery televised speech addressing thousands of protesters in Beirut’s southern suburbs, Nasrallah blasted Trump over the U.S. president’s recognition of occupied Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

“The most important response will be to announce a third Palestinian intifada on all occupied Palestinian territories, and it is upon the Arab and Islamic world to stand by [the Palestinians’] side,” Nasrallah said.

He also called on Arabs to halt the peace process and to call on the U.S. to retreat from Trump’s decision, which also included unprecedented plans to move the U.S. Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem.

Lambasting Trump and the decision, which was announced last week, the Hezbollah leader said that the American administration was waiting for the world to welcome the decision and follow suit in recognizing Jerusalem as Israel’s capital.

“Trump appeared to be alone in his decision, with Israel at his side," Nasrallah said, in one of his most combative speeches in recent weeks. “We should show our appreciation for the stances taken ... including all those countries that have rejected Trump’s decision."

Crowds had gathered in Beirut’s southern suburbs from early Monday afternoon, marching and chanting in solidarity with the Palestinian people and in rejection of Trump's decision, after Nasrallah called for the demonstration in a speech Thursday. Amal Movement supporters also joined the protest.

Nasrallah saluted Palestinians in Lebanon, praising their commitment to their right to return to Palestine. “I salute the Palestinians ... that are still committed to their right to return and who are raising their children on this dream, which will come true very soon,” Nasrallah said, in reference to Palestinians living in refugee camps.

“I salute ... the people of Gaza, in the West Bank, for their positions since Trump’s decision,” he added. “These people that have sacrificed so much, these people that have defended Jerusalem, they have all our gratitude.”

He called on Arab states to abandon all talks aimed at facilitating the peace process in the Middle East, adding that “if Trump reverses his decision, it’s your call if you want to continue peace talks,” he said.

The final motto to live by, he said, is: “Death to Israel.”

He added that Trump's decision would prove to be “the beginning of the end of Israel, God willing.”

Nasrallah called on all resistance fighters and factions in the region to come together, saying that it was vital to put forward a unified strategy for confrontation. "We in Hezbollah will carry on with our responsibilities in this regard," Nasrallah said, reiterating that the threat represented by Israel and the United States should be turned into an opportunity.

"We march to Jerusalem with millions of martyrs," Nasrallah said, before the thousands of protesters who joined him in chanting the slogan.

 
 
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On 12/9/2017 at 2:53 PM, kirtc said:

Lost? It is not over and until the fat lady sings... and that fat lady is Gabriel's horn...

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Listen, this is not about Palestinians. Yes we support our brothers even though some of them hate us. But this is not about them, this is about the Aqsa Mosque.. As a muslim you should defend it. It has been usurped from us and we have a legitimate Jihad agreed on by all ullema to get it back... (unless of course you are a shirazi/habibi in which case you sit back do nothing and curse omar and abu bakr all day until the wahabis and zionists kill themselves of boredom.)

This grab was a step the zionists took to hasten the arrival of their messaih the dajjal... It is all part of the grand plan.. in which be sure at the end we will be victorious... 
Soon the Sauds will openly ally with Israel and start WW3 against the shias... and know he will be near.

The Israeli government is not going to stop Muslims from visiting the Al-Aqsa Mosque, that would be a huge breach in the geopolitical sphere and even Saudi would not tolerate it. There is no issue with Jerusalem being the capital of Israel.

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Listen, this is not about Palestinians. Yes we support our brothers even though some of them hate us. But this is not about them, this is about the Aqsa Mosque..

Mostly it is the oppressed of our Ummah that we need to take care. We should actually offer lands and homes to them.

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Salam but the definition of muslim is different for zionists as their point of view the Wahabist are muslims & after that sunni Islam branches unfortunately they as Wahabist dont count shia muslims as one of them if they took toatal control of Quds they will not allow the Shia muslims to visit there except such groups as Shirazi/habibi extremist to foul Shia muslims. 

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Japanese embassy will not be relocated to al-Quds: PM

May 2, 2018 - 5:12 PM News Code : 891757 Source : egypt todayLink:  Japanese embassy will not be relocated to al-Quds: PM  

Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe has asserted that his country will not be relocating its embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Al Quds. 

(AhlulBayt News Agency) - Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe has asserted that his country will not be relocating its embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Al Quds. 

Abe's assertion came during a meeting with Palestinian President Mahmud Abbas in Ramallah on Tuesday where he also reiterated support for any endeavors to achieve peace in the Middle East and establish an independent Palestinian state within the framework of the two-state solution, according to the Palestinian official news agency Wafa. 

Abe is currently on a Middle East tour and is set to meet with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Wednesday. 

 

http://en.abna24.com/news/middle-east/japanese-embassy-will-not-be-relocated-to-al-quds-pm_891757.html

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14May18

As of 2100EDT, the Gaza Ghetto protests have 55 killed and 2700 wounded. Since lsraeIi snipers were using .50 Cal rifles instead of a smaller bore for shooting, despite the couple of thousand leg-only shots, several hundred will have amputations.

Meanwhile, the US opened its new embassy in Jerusalem. The first prayer -at the dismay of the Jewish Anti-Defamation League- was said by hate-in-da-name-of-Jesus pastor Robert Jeffress from Dallas. Another prayer was led by Trump Tower resident and another hate-in-the-name-of-Jesus pastor  John Hagee (l saw a few of his videos. These are really ignorant.)  l am surprised that Trump Tower resident (she did reside there) and accused tax evader Paula White was not invited to chirp and mutter at this occasion.

l looked up resident + Trump Tower and found several articles. l didn't find it but allegedly in 2016 Bloomberg compiled and published such a list.

Some real "characters". For example: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/12/style/trump-tower-famous-residents.html 

 

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8 hours ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

 

 

Trump’s US embassy move to Jerusalem 

 

Bro, where did you find this ignoramus?  :angry:

According to my textbook Bible, Zacharia 12 has to do with the defeat and death of King Josia. Nothing else.

As for "burden" and "Lord",  confer[Latin for 'compare'] lsaiah 30:27 and Jeremiah 23:33-38.

 

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The death of King Josiah is estimated to be in 609 BCE, well before the beginning of Zechariah’s prophetic career around 520 BCE during the reign of King Darius of Persia.  During Zechariah’s mission, Jews were returning to the land of Israel but were not an independent kingdom.

The mourning is likened to the mourning of Israel after the defeat and death of King Josiah.  The prophecy refers to a time yet to be and works together with later chapters.  This section of Zechariah is definitely one of the more interesting prophecies in the Bible.  I’d encourage you to read it all if you haven’t already.

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On 12/9/2017 at 2:34 PM, Haji 2003 said:

Let's face it, the people who control Jerusalem are those with the bigger guns. That's always been the case and it's been the case more often than instances when control has been based on moral or religious legitimacy.

The Pals have lost. They lost a very long time ago.

Their loss of land and rights has been more gradual than it otherwise would have been for the convenience of the imperial powers.

They are now about to be sold down the river by the Saudis.

very true...Jerusalem has been the magic wand in the hand of the powerful.... and Muslims are not the powerful of today, Jews are. Neither side should be hopeless or gloat for everything in this world is transient. If Muslims truly want Jerusalem, they'll eventually get Jerusalem and vice versa. Thats the beauty of it all. Jews truly wanted it and they got Jerusalem after 2000 years.

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You are correct.

13 minutes ago, Ibn Maymun said:

The death of King Josiah is estimated to be in 609 BCE, well before the beginning of Zechariah’s prophetic career around 520 BCE during the reign of King Darius of Persia.  During Zechariah’s mission, Jews were returning to the land of Israel but were not an independent kingdom.

The mourning is likened to the mourning of Israel after the defeat and death of King Josiah.  The prophecy refers to a time yet to be and works together with later chapters.  This section of Zechariah is definitely one of the more interesting prophecies in the Bible.  I’d encourage you to read it all if you haven’t already.

The Josia notes in my text are not written clearly enough.

My self, l do not consider Zacharia a prophetic book. "Deutero-Zacharia" [chapters 9-14] is written by multiple authors according to the introduction in my text. The other reason are the similarities with the then popular stories like Tobias, Daniel, Ruth ( like today with Pearl Buck's "Story of the Bible", or  "The Late, Great Planet Earth" by Hal Lindsay.) Note "Satan stood" Chap 3:1; "Four Chariots" Chap 6:1; "Flying Scroll" Chap.5:1; and so on.

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2 hours ago, hasanhh said:

Bro, where did you find this ignoramus:angry:

According to my textbook Bible, Zacharia 12 has to do with the defeat and death of King Josia. Nothing else.

As for "burden" and "Lord",  confer[Latin for 'compare'] lsaiah 30:27 and Jeremiah 23:33-38.

 

Salam ,its the Idea of Zionist& Israel regim that they try to fulfill it .:D

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1 hour ago, hasanhh said:

You are correct.

The Josia notes in my text are not written clearly enough.

My self, l do not consider Zacharia a prophetic book. "Deutero-Zacharia" [chapters 9-14] is written by multiple authors according to the introduction in my text. The other reason are the similarities with the then popular stories like Tobias, Daniel, Ruth ( like today with Pearl Buck's "Story of the Bible", or  "The Late, Great Planet Earth" by Hal Lindsay.) Note "Satan stood" Chap 3:1; "Four Chariots" Chap 6:1; "Flying Scroll" Chap.5:1; and so on.

Hey, your opinion on Zechariah is your opinion on Zechariah. It might have been written by one author or four authors.  I would still read and pay attention to this particular passage about the day when the nations bring war to Jerusalem.  It seems to be shaping nutty American foreign policy.  And yet, oddly, American and Israeli policy seem ignorant of what it's actually saying.

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Photos 3: Saudi-funded Zionist regime heavily attack unarmed Palestinians in Gaza - 59 martyred - 14th May 2018

May 15, 2018 - 9:25 AM News Code : 893492 Source : ABNA24Link:   

At least 59 Palestinians have been martyred and more than 2,700 others injured alongside the eastern borders of the Gaza Strip on Monday, according to the Palestinian Ministry of Health in Gaza.

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On 12/8/2017 at 6:50 AM, Wholehearted Shi'a said:

Hypocrisy is currently everywhere in the Islamic world, The Arab nations especially because they care more about generating wealth than the wellbeing of other Muslims. 

Hypocrisy or munafiq is the term used for muslim after Nabi Muhammad SAW hijrah to Madinah.

There is no munafiq during Makkah period.

Transforming into our contemporary world now, what is the condition now ? Makkah period or Madinah period ?

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26 minutes ago, myouvial said:

Hypocrisy or munafiq is the term used for muslim after Nabi Muhammad SAW hijrah to Madinah.

There is no munafiq during Makkah period.

Transforming into our contemporary world now, what is the condition now ? Makkah period or Madinah period ?

This is the way of the thinking of some people from my experience.

There is no munafiq during Makkah period.===> i guess only kuffar and ignorance and do not understand and believer.

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