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Controversial ibne Arabi?

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Which hadiths? Al-Kafi? Al-Kafi is not a book of Hadiths. It's a book of Fatwas

Lol.

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All your "Irfan" rests in Aviccena which was a Hanafi. You Shias had no "Irfan" before Khomeini, Allamah Tabatatei and Mulla Sadra.

 

Yeah, our school of thought was just plain strick laws withouth any spritiual teachings. :grin:

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10 minutes ago, SunniBrother said:

Most of your "Irfan" comes from Sunni scholars.

Yes. In irfan sunni or more appropriate to say sofis have great contribution. Shia arifs regularly give reference from sofi masters too. And that is great. 

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Just now, islam25 said:

Yes. In irfan sunni or more appropriate to say sofis have great contribution. Shia arifs regularly give reference from sofi masters too. And that is great. 

No its not.

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6 minutes ago, SunniBrother said:

All your "Irfan" rests in Aviccena which was a Hanafi. You Shias had no "Irfan" before Khomeini, Allamah Tabatatei and Mulla Sadra.

I could care less about irfan if you ask me. It's meaningless to me. Some find it important.

5 minutes ago, islam25 said:

Mr. The shia scholar who has written best commentary on Quran has has praised ibne Arabi. Leader of Islamic revolution of Iran and master of irfan has praised ibne Arabi most. 

Okay. That's your opinion.

7 minutes ago, SunniBrother said:

Which hadiths? Al-Kafi? Al-Kafi is not a book of Hadiths. It's a book of Fatwas

Ahh what? You think it's just a Fiqh book?

http://www.imamiyya.com/hadith/usul-kafi

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Just now, islam25 said:

Just grow up. Come out of tunnel vision. 

You don't understand don't you? Sunni works are not Hujjah to us, taking their thinking and mixing with our books will cause possibility of deviation from Ahlubait (as) teaching. We don't need them.

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I could care less about irfan if you ask me. It's meaningless to me. Some find it important.

Neither I, because I already understand that people who lack spirituality and try to find it from Irfan are mostly those who don't even practice the basic Islamic teaching. It is good if they can do their wudhu properly.

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5 minutes ago, SunniBrother said:

Yes. Ask Ayatollah Kamal al-Haydari.

Or better just look for yourself and see. If you think it is still Fiqh book, then you are blind. But I doubt that.

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15 minutes ago, Sumerian said:

Your opinion is he was a good person. Sayyed Al-Khoei implies he is a kafir and Shaykh Al-Fayyadh says he is a zindeeq.

Actually subject of irfan .That is why  those who do not have access to it talk differently. 

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3 minutes ago, Sumerian said:

Yes he is. Maybe you haven't realised he is a controversial figure with strange opinions?

He is very professional in his works. Just because you don't like what is being said doesn't give you the right to insult his person. Anyway I am Sunni so I don't care much what you think of your own Ayatollah.

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Just now, SunniBrother said:

He is very professional in his works. Just because you don't like what is being said doesn't give you the right to insult his person. Anyway I am Sunni so I don't care much what you think of your own Ayatollah.

He's wrong and has been refuted multiple times for his strange statements. It's like me getting a Sunni "scholar" with strange views and putting that on you.

Exactly, you are Sunni. You shouldn't even be involved in our inside disputes. 

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3 minutes ago, Sumerian said:

He's wrong and has been refuted multiple times for his strange statements. It's like me getting a Sunni "scholar" with strange views and putting that on you.

Exactly, you are Sunni. You shouldn't even be involved in our inside disputes. 

Kamal Haydari is great scholar. 

It is not only Kamal haydari but many Ayatollahs have greatly praised ibne Arabi. I my opinion imam khomine was greatest scholar of his time. And he has praised ibne Arabi most  And it cannot be ignored. 

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1 hour ago, Sumerian said:

He's wrong and has been refuted multiple times for his strange statements. It's like me getting a Sunni "scholar" with strange views and putting that on you.

Exactly, you are Sunni. You shouldn't even be involved in our inside disputes. 

Because I wont watch Wahhabis like you attacking Scholars. Ibn Arabi was Sunni so it does concern me. You Wahhabi.

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Just now, SunniBrother said:

Chechnya banned both you guys and Salafis. They branded you both Wahhabis because you accuse others of heresies and only know how to cause Fitnah.

Your sectarianism is beginning to show. First you come here acting all lovey dovey but your true image is exposed.

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2 minutes ago, Sumerian said:

Your sectarianism is beginning to show. First you come here acting all lovey dovey but your true image is exposed.

We should not talk ignorantly and mocking. Just have difference but not hate. 

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4 minutes ago, Sumerian said:

Your sectarianism is beginning to show. First you come here acting all lovey dovey but your true image is exposed.

Why should largest shia nation Iran should accept khomine ra their leader. The khomine who praised ibne Arabi most. Same with mohammad Hussain Tabatabie the greatest scholar of Islam and author of Al Mizaan praised ibne irabi. 

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52 minutes ago, Sumerian said:

Your sectarianism is beginning to show. First you come here acting all lovey dovey but your true image is exposed.

You where the one insulting your own shia scholar. I have no issue with you guys but I do have issue in you calling Ibn Arabi a deviant and yes I will have issue if you insult Abu Bakr (r.a) as well.

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47 minutes ago, islam25 said:

Why should largest shia nation Iran should accept khomine ra their leader. The khomine who praised ibne Arabi most. Same with mohammad Hussain Tabatabie the greatest scholar of Islam and author of Al Mizaan praised ibne irabi. 

I read Tabatabie books. He have some beneficial works.

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7 minutes ago, SunniBrother said:

You where the one insulting your own shia scholar. I have no issue with you guys but I do have issue in you calling Ibn Arabi a deviant and yes I will have issue if you insult Abu Bakr (r.a) as well.

 

1 hour ago, SunniBrother said:

Chechnya banned both you guys and Salafis. They branded you both Wahhabis because you accuse others of heresies and only know how to cause Fitnah.

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12 minutes ago, Sumerian said:

 

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? Worry about yourself before criticizing others. Before you call Ibn Arabi a deviant maybe you should carefully look at yourself. Only someone waxed in the pride of Shaytan will think he have nothing to correct or improve in himself. Go in peace.

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