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Controversial ibne Arabi?

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5 minutes ago, rinneganMahdi said:

Maybe it's false claims against ibn arabi that state he praised enemies of ahlulbayt (asws), like how do we know that he actually praised enemies of ahlubayt and that it's not just a made up fallacy by other Islamic schools of thought? 

It's not false, read it here:

 

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Maybe that's why many high ranking shia mujhatids praise him because they recognise the fallacy made against his character, because if we see the mujtahids that praise him, they seem to be noble and extremely exceptional such as ayatollah Qahzi, Khomeini, behjet etc, these ayatollahs are known to be far from ordinary and are not typical mujtahids, anyway I'm just assuming here of course so please don't take anything I state awa factual evidence only Allah swt knows best, I'm just trying to put the puzzle together lol, would love an answer and further explanation, wsalam

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8 minutes ago, Dhulfikar said:

It's not false, read it here:

 

This has shed some new light on my perspective thank you so much, it's fascinating tbat mujtahids have a vast opinion on this matter especially surprised by what ayatollah Qahzi thinks since he believes ibn arabi was a shia

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This has shed some new light on my perspective thank you so much, it's fascinating tbat mujtahids have a vast opinion on this matter especially surprised by what ayatollah Qahzi thinks since he believes ibn arabi was a shia

 

You can also find Scholars who are against Ibn Arabi works, opinions and his position toward Ahlulbait (as).

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1 hour ago, rinneganMahdi said:

Maybe that's why many high ranking shia mujhatids praise him because they recognise the fallacy made against his character, because if we see the mujtahids that praise him, they seem to be noble and extremely exceptional such as ayatollah Qahzi, Khomeini, behjet etc, these ayatollahs are known to be far from ordinary and are not typical mujtahids, anyway I'm just assuming here of course so please don't take anything I state awa factual evidence only Allah swt knows best, I'm just trying to put the puzzle together lol, would love an answer and further explanation, wsalam

These mujtahids whom you named understood Islam from different perspective than others. That is why they praised. Because their definition of Muslim, kafir and momin is different from others. 

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1 hour ago, rinneganMahdi said:

Maybe it's false claims against ibn arabi that state he praised enemies of ahlulbayt (asws), like how do we know that he actually praised enemies of ahlubayt and that it's not just a made up fallacy by other Islamic schools of thought? 

It is said the books of ibne Arabi has different collection's. So in some he has praised some unworthy person. But the scholars suspect it is insertion done latter and ibne Arabi has not himself done .

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5 hours ago, islam25 said:

It is said the books of ibne Arabi has different collection's. So in some he has praised some unworthy person. But the scholars suspect it is insertion done latter and ibne Arabi has not himself done .

And it had happened exactly for Ibn Arabi works, I wonder what is the chance this could occur? Any proof of their conclusion of why they think this could have happened?

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2 hours ago, Dhulfikar said:

And it had happened exactly for Ibn Arabi works, I wonder what is the chance this could occur? Any proof of their conclusion of why they think this could have happened?

Do you think they won't have proof. 

Why should a great mujtahid of shia islam would praise ibne Arabi  if he was enemy of Ahlulbayt. So think over it. 

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38 minutes ago, islam25 said:

Do you think they won't have proof. 

Why should a great mujtahid of shia islam would praise ibne Arabi  if he was enemy of Ahlulbayt. So think over it. 

Same with the great mujtahids that criticize ibn Arabi. We want proof of the claim that later his books were modified by others, because we seek truthfulness.

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16 minutes ago, Dhulfikar said:

Same with the great mujtahids that criticize ibn Arabi, think over it too. We wan't proof of your claim, because we seek truthfulness and not blindly believe in opinions.

Because our standards to declare a person good or bad based on sectarian prejudice. That is why we make error. Otherwise ibne Arabi was true lover and follower of Ahlulbayt as and he done great contribution in Islam particularly about subject Ilahiyat. He clearly declear that Imam Ali as and other imams were true divinely appointed guardians. 

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10 minutes ago, SunniBrother said:

Glad we Sunnis have Ibn Arabi. That's one thing which differentiate us from Wahhabis who oppose him.

Yes many great shia scholars have praised ibne most. 

That is true wahhabies oppose him.

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11 minutes ago, islam25 said:

Because our standards to declare a person good or bad based on sectarian prejudice. That is why we make error. Otherwise ibne Arabi was true lover and follower of Ahlulbayt as and he done great contribution in Islam particularly about subject Ilahiyat. He clearly declear that Imam Ali as and other imams were true divinely appointed guardians. 

No. We declare trough his work and action. So far what we know from his own work is that he praises the Ahlulbait (as) and their enemies. 

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