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This entire thread reminds me of children running around the playground shouting “Gay” as insults.

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1 minute ago, Ron_Burgundy said:

So you think Imam killed them because they were gays or they were practicing sodomy? 

Our imam's are infallible and hence just. I couldn't imagine our holy Imam, the man who nurtured the orphans would do such a thing, unless there was a much bigger motive

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Just now, Afsaneh14 said:

Our imam's are infallible and hence just. I couldn't imagine our holy Imam, the man who nurtured the orphans would do such a thing, unless there was a much bigger motive

Sodomy is haram and of course Imam has punished people for that. But not because someone had those girly things and imam said lets go and kill them. 

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8 minutes ago, Ron_Burgundy said:

So you think Imam killed them because they were gays or they were practicing sodomy? 

Bro, gay is abuse for us, So, we take it as like saying someone as dog or cat. I cannot be patient over insult of humans. 

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9 hours ago, Ron_Burgundy said:

Sodomy is haram and of course Imam has punished people for that. But not because someone had those girly things and imam said lets go and kill them. 

So, do you think that Imam praise a man walking like a girl....I tell you an event that Once Abdullah Ibn Umar wore red dress and came to Prophet PBUHHP and Prophet PBUHHP saw him and said what is that you are wearing, are you a woman ? Upon that Abdullah ibn umer went home and burnt his shirt and came back with other color shirt and Prophet asked him what you did with red shirt ? He said that I burnt it down. Upon that Prophet PBUHHP said: "You should have given it to a woman". So, was it praise worthy before Prophet ? 

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Just now, Sindbad05 said:

Bro, gay is abuse for us, So, we take it as like saying someone as dog or cat. I cannot be patient over insult of humans. 

Then you need to learn from prophet and Imams 

 

Forbearance Of Imam Husayn (a.s)

Imam Husayn (a.s) was the epitome of forbearance and magnanimity. Most of the people were astounded at his forbearance. One day a man asked his co-travelers about him, “Who is that wearing the turban of the Prophet, dressed in his clothes and carrying his sword?” They replied, “Do you not recognize him? He is the maternal grandson of the Messenger of Allah (S), Husayn Ibn Ali (a.s).”

Hearing this, he began to abuse and malign the Imam. The Imam said, “O dear man! If the wind of the deserts has created dryness in your head, stay with us for some days so that we may have you cured. If your wife has troubled you and you have come here after having a fight with her, take some money from me and go and make up with her.” The companions of the Imam were surprised at these gentle words. Some of them wanted to revenge that behavior, but the Imam sternly advised against it and said, “We are the mountains of forbearance and nothing can move us.” The man was very regretful of his behavior and he begged the Imam's pardon

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3 minutes ago, Sindbad05 said:

So, do you think that Imam praise a man walking like a girl....I tell you an event that Once Abdullah Ibn Umar wore red dress and came to Prophet PBUHHP and Prophet PBUHHP saw him and said what is that you are wearing, are you a woman ? Upon that Abdullah ibn umer went home and burnt his shirt and came back with other color shirt and Prophet asked him what you did with red shirt ? He said that I burnt it down. Upon that Prophet PBUHHP said: "You should have given it to a woman". So, was it praise worthy before Prophet ? 

When did i say that you should appreciate a gay person?

And so you are saying that prophet said red color is for girls? source. 

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2 hours ago, Sindbad05 said:

Bro, you can abuse me I will show you forbearance but if you say that I stop talking against what Islam dislikes [EDIT[

If i was saying that you should allow sodomy then you could say that i am saying something against islam but i never said that. 

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2 hours ago, Sindbad05 said:

Bro, you can abuse me I will show you forbearance but if you say that I stop talking against what Islam dislikes [EDIT]

and few moment ago you said if you call a muslims or me a dog i won't tolerate (Something like that) didn't you?

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Just now, Ron_Burgundy said:

When did i say that you should appreciate a gay person?

And so you are saying that prophet said red color is for girls? source. 

:hahaha: I do not carry books always. If you think I am lying, then I provide you also second thing. Prophet PBUHHP forbade men from wearing gold and silk check it out....so, they disliked such things among men. 

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Just now, Sindbad05 said:

:hahaha: I do not carry books always. If you think I am lying, then I provide you also second thing. Prophet PBUHHP forbade men from wearing gold and silk check it out....so, they disliked such things among men. 

I know gold and silk i have read it but never red anything about red shirt. 

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1 minute ago, Ron_Burgundy said:

If i was saying that you should allow sodomy then you could say that i am saying something against islam but i never said that. 

Well, I would advice you not to say it is ok for a male to be girlish and female to be like male. These are signs of day of Judgement. So fear Allah and stops yourself from this. 

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1 minute ago, Ron_Burgundy said:

I know gold and silk i have read it but never red anything about red shirt. 

Hmmm, that is why I also told you about gold and silver that you would not accept this red shirt event, but I have read it. try searching google. 

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@Ron_Burgundy @Islandsandmirrors @Sindbad05 @Gaius I. Caesar You know, i think from our last experience, trying to come up with a conclusion on this topic is like a dog chasing its tail. There are just so many elements from nature vs nurture,modernity, feelings vs actions, mental health, culture,  It will never end. 

As humans, the best thing we should do is love one another, just as Amir ul mumineen taught us too. A master loves his servants. The creator loves all his creations, but hates its sins. And the best way to reverse sins is through love

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Just now, Sindbad05 said:

Well, I would advice you not to say it is ok for a male to be girlish and female to be like male. These are signs of day of Judgement. So fear Allah and stops yourself from this. 

Well we all know a day of judgement is not far, but i won't let you say that if a guy acts like a woman we should stone them to death. That is not islam. 

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1 minute ago, Afsaneh14 said:

@Ron_Burgundy @Islandsandmirrors @Sindbad05 @Gaius I. Caesar You know, i think from our last experience, trying to come up with a conclusion on this topic is like a dog chasing its tail. There are just so many elements from nature vs nurture,modernity, feelings vs actions, mental health, culture,  It will never end. 

As humans, the best thing we should do is love one another, just as Amir ul mumineen taught us too. A master loves his servants. The creator loves all his creations, but hates its sins. And the best way to reverse sins is through love

Thank you. And we should stop spreading false islam. 

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1 minute ago, Ron_Burgundy said:

Well we all know a day of judgement is not far, but i won't let you say that if a guy acts like a woman we should stone them to death. That is not islam. 

I did not say to stone a person who acts like girls to death. but I say you to tell him, he is not doing right. and it is not ok,. 

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