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Shi'i beliefs in the Bible

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A series of lectures outlining the fundamentals beliefs of Shia Islam present in the Bible, using proof-text method. Topics include Imam Hussain (as), Tragedy of Karbala, the Injeel & the event of Ghadeer.

https://www.al-islam.org/node/13034

Jesus through Shiite Narrations

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in Jewish religion of today (and before !) and Islam , human child borns without sin. Just in a changed religion called Christianity human child borns with sin. That’s all because of some verses and ideologies [edit] Paul added to bible. Like:

Romans 5:12 “Wherefore as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned. By one man’s disobediance many were made sinners.”(letters of paul to roman, not letters of jesus to roman)

Paul said sin passed on and god was going to put death to children because of parent. The things, that would be called injustice of god. So what is justice of god ? Justice of god is shown down:

Jews don’t accept this, it’s against law of Moses, deut 24:16
“Parents are not to be put to death for their children, nor children put to death for their parents; each will die for their own sin.”

Against the word of jesus, Look 5:32 :” i have not come for the righteous , but for the sinners!!” So all of us are not sinful, paul did not pay attention while he was writing those letters.

Torah declared that men like Calev1 and King Josiah2 were faithful throughout their extraordinary lives. Moreover, because of their devotion to their Creator, Abraham and Daniel were the objects of the Almighty’s warm affection as He tenderly referred to Abraham as “My friend,”3 and Daniel, “beloved.”4 These extraordinary men of God did not merit these remarkable superlatives because they believed in Jesus or depended on a blood atonement. Rather, Scripture testified to their faithfulness because of their devotion to God and unyielding obedience to His Torah.

in islam also this is not acceptable, it’s against the word of god, “…No person earns any (sin) except against himself (only), and no bearer of burdens shall bear the burden of another…” (Quran 6:164)

So when sin does not passes on, there is no need for sacrifice, sacrifice story of Jesus is a lie. In Quran god is saying god raised Jesus alive , and another one was made to resemble him to them,and they took that one and killed him. Surah al-nisa 157

Now you know how paul changed christianity.

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6 hours ago, Arminmo said:

In islam also this is not acceptable, it’s against the word of god, “…No person earns any (sin) except against himself (only), and no bearer of burdens shall bear the burden of another…” (Quran 6:164)

Christians do not share your interpretation of Paul. We agree with Quran 6:164.

 Paul is talking about the story of Adam disobeying God by eating forbidden fruit from a tree. This myth from Genesis tries to explain why humans are not perfect beings that never will commit sins. Unlike Islam, Christianity and Judaism teaches all humans commit sins. (Prophets also) A newborn child has not yet committed any sins, but will sooner or later do so. 

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On 14/10/2017 at 5:50 AM, Christianity said:

Many people have claimed some kind of divine revelation throughout history, so in that respect Muhammad is no unique. I want to know your reasons for choosing Islam over any other religion, and why I should chose it. Why should we believe in Muhammad over Zoroaster, or Buddha, or Mani, or Joseph Smith, or Ellen G. White? How is Muhammad superior to these other "prophets"? How did he prove himself? What makes him unique? 

he wrote the Quran.. 

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31 minutes ago, andres said:

 Paul is talking about the story of Adam disobeying God by eating forbidden fruit from a tree. This myth from Genesis tries to explain why humans are not perfect beings that never will commit sins. Unlike Islam, Christianity and Judaism teaches all humans commit sins. (Prophets also) A newborn child has not yet committed any sins, but will s

We also consider Jesus pbuh prophet, are you saying he could comit sins

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45 minutes ago, andres said:

Muhammed could not write. The Quran was completed after he died. Which year is disputed.

Hi Quran was completed during life time of Prophet Mohammad (pbu) because after him revelation completely stopped but it gathered in this form after him so nobody add or distract anything to it.

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1 hour ago, kirtc said:

who told you that?

I dont expect that Muhammed, when he fell ill and died, had time to compile and finish the Quran. More plausible is the story that Zayd ibn Thabit did it when Muhammed was dead. But as long as there are no contemporary records of how and when the compilation took place, the story will remain disputed. 

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2 hours ago, father said:

How? He was given birth by a woman, he used to eat drink sleep like every body else?

I have no idea how someone born without a biological father looks like inside. Not how a divinity looks inside either.. Atheists believe Jesus was a normal human with 2 parents, who died on the cross, end of story. We believe he was Divine. 

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1 hour ago, andres said:

I have no idea how someone born without a biological father looks like inside. Not how a divinity looks inside either.. Atheists believe Jesus was a normal human with 2 parents, who died on the cross, end of story. We believe he was Divine. 

Adams pbuh was also born without a father, like you said earlier that he eat the forbidden fruit and made a mistake.If he was divine as you call Jesus some form of God how can he die on cross than? He should be eternal everlasting.

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Ali ibn Ibrahim has narrated from Muhammad ibn Ishaq al-Khaffaf or from his father from Muhammad ibn Ishaq who has said the following. ''Abdallah al-Daysani asked Hisham ibn 
 

al-Hakam, 'Do you have a God?'" He replied, "Yes, I have a God." He then asked, "Is He  
powerful?" Hisham then replied, "Yes, He is powerful and the most powerful One." The man  
then asked, "Can He fit the whole world inside an egg without any change in the size of either  
one?" Hisham then said, "Give me a little time." The man said, "I give you one whole year  
and he left." Hisham then went to see Imam abu 'Abdallah (a.s.) for an Answer. After asking  
permission that he was granted Hisham explained, "Al-Daysani asked me a question today  
and I see no one except Allah and yourself to answer it." The Imam then asked, "What is the  
question?" Hisham restated the question that al-Daysani had asked. The Imam then said, "O  
Hisham, how many are your senses?" He replied, "They are five." The Imam then asked,  
"Which one is the smallest?" He replied, "The seeing sense." The Imam then asked, "How big  
is its size?" He replied, "It is about the size of the pupil or smaller." The Imam then said, "O  
Hisham, look in front of you and above you and then tell me what you have seen." Hisham  
then replied, "I can see the sky, the earth, the houses, the buildings, the land, the mountains  
and the water canals." The Imam then said, "The One who has been able to fit all that you can  
see in a pupil or even a smaller thing is also able to fit the whole world in side an egg without  
any change in the size of any one of them. Hisham bowed down and kissed the feet, the hands  
and the head of the Imam (a.s.) saying, "This is enough for me O descendant of the holy  
Prophet and then left for his home. The next day al-Daysani met him and said, "I have come  
just to say greetings to you and not for an answer to my question" Hisham then said, "Even if  
you may have come for an answer it is ready." Al-Daysani then left to meet Imam abu  
'Abdallah (a.s.) and after asking permission for a meeting which was granted he sat down and  
said, "O Ja'far ibn Muhammad, "Guide me to my Lord." The Imam then asked, "What is your  
name?" He then left without answering the Imam and his people asked him, "Why did you not  
answer the Imam?" He replied, "Were I to tell him that it is 'Abdallah he would then ask that  
who is this Lord whose slave are you?" They then said, "Return to him and ask him to guide  
you to your Lord without asking your name." He then returned back to the Imam and asked,  
"O Ja'far ibn Muhammad, "Guide me to my Lord but do not ask my name." The Imam asked  
him to sit down. A young boy, son of the Imam was there playing with an egg in his hand and  
the Imam asked, "Fetch me the egg O young man. The boy gave the egg to the Imam who  
said, "O Daysani, this is a secure castle. It has a thicker outer shell and inside of it there is  
much finer shell inside of which there is liquid gold and flowing silver. The liquid gold does  



not mix with the flowing silver nor does the flowing silver mix the liquid gold. Such is its  
condition no expert comes out therefrom to find out what is beneficial to it to report back all  
about it nor any corrupting agent enters therein so that its problems would be reported. No  
one knows if it is created for a male or a female. It will burst out with colors of a peacock. Do  
you think there is someone to design and manage it?  

Al-Daysani thought quietly and said, "I testify that there is no god but Allah Who is the only  
Lord and has no partner. I testify that Muhammad (s.a) is His servant and messenger and that  
you are the Imam and an authority from Allah over his creatures and I repent because of  
previous beliefs."  

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24 minutes ago, father said:

Ali ibn Ibrahim has narrated from Muhammad ibn Ishaq al-Khaffaf or from his father from Muhammad ibn Ishaq who has said the following. ''Abdallah al-Daysani asked Hisham ibn 
 

al-Hakam, 'Do you have a God?'" He replied, "Yes, I have a God." He then asked, "Is He  
powerful?" Hisham then replied, "Yes, He is powerful and the most powerful One." The man  
then asked, "Can He fit the whole world inside an egg without any change in the size of either  
one?" Hisham then said, "Give me a little time." The man said, "I give you one whole year  
and he left." Hisham then went to see Imam abu 'Abdallah (a.s.) for an Answer. After asking  
permission that he was granted Hisham explained, "Al-Daysani asked me a question today  
and I see no one except Allah and yourself to answer it." The Imam then asked, "What is the  
question?" Hisham restated the question that al-Daysani had asked. The Imam then said, "O  
Hisham, how many are your senses?" He replied, "They are five." The Imam then asked,  
"Which one is the smallest?" He replied, "The seeing sense." The Imam then asked, "How big  
is its size?" He replied, "It is about the size of the pupil or smaller." The Imam then said, "O  
Hisham, look in front of you and above you and then tell me what you have seen." Hisham  
then replied, "I can see the sky, the earth, the houses, the buildings, the land, the mountains  
and the water canals." The Imam then said, "The One who has been able to fit all that you can  
see in a pupil or even a smaller thing is also able to fit the whole world in side an egg without  
any change in the size of any one of them. Hisham bowed down and kissed the feet, the hands  
and the head of the Imam (a.s.) saying, "This is enough for me O descendant of the holy  
Prophet and then left for his home. The next day al-Daysani met him and said, "I have come  
just to say greetings to you and not for an answer to my question" Hisham then said, "Even if  
you may have come for an answer it is ready." Al-Daysani then left to meet Imam abu  
'Abdallah (a.s.) and after asking permission for a meeting which was granted he sat down and  
said, "O Ja'far ibn Muhammad, "Guide me to my Lord." The Imam then asked, "What is your  
name?" He then left without answering the Imam and his people asked him, "Why did you not  
answer the Imam?" He replied, "Were I to tell him that it is 'Abdallah he would then ask that  
who is this Lord whose slave are you?" They then said, "Return to him and ask him to guide  
you to your Lord without asking your name." He then returned back to the Imam and asked,  
"O Ja'far ibn Muhammad, "Guide me to my Lord but do not ask my name." The Imam asked  
him to sit down. A young boy, son of the Imam was there playing with an egg in his hand and  
the Imam asked, "Fetch me the egg O young man. The boy gave the egg to the Imam who  
said, "O Daysani, this is a secure castle. It has a thicker outer shell and inside of it there is  
much finer shell inside of which there is liquid gold and flowing silver. The liquid gold does  



not mix with the flowing silver nor does the flowing silver mix the liquid gold. Such is its  
condition no expert comes out therefrom to find out what is beneficial to it to report back all  
about it nor any corrupting agent enters therein so that its problems would be reported. No  
one knows if it is created for a male or a female. It will burst out with colors of a peacock. Do  
you think there is someone to design and manage it?  

Al-Daysani thought quietly and said, "I testify that there is no god but Allah Who is the only  
Lord and has no partner. I testify that Muhammad (s.a) is His servant and messenger and that  
you are the Imam and an authority from Allah over his creatures and I repent because of  
previous beliefs."  

How long after Muhammed was this dialogue recorded?

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39 minutes ago, father said:

Adams pbuh was also born without a father, like you said earlier that he eat the forbidden fruit and made a mistake.If he was divine as you call Jesus some form of God how can he die on cross than? He should be eternal everlasting.

Adam was not the first human. Our specie existed several hundred years before the time of Adam and Eve.

Nobody knows how God fixed Jesus death and ressurection. Science say it is impossible. We believe it anyway.

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43 minutes ago, father said:

Ali ibn Ibrahim has narrated from Muhammad ibn Ishaq al-Khaffaf or from his father from Muhammad ibn Ishaq who has said the following. ''Abdallah al-Daysani asked Hisham ibn 
 

al-Hakam, 'Do you have a God?'" He replied, "Yes, I have a God." He then asked, "Is He  
powerful?" Hisham then replied, "Yes, He is powerful and the most powerful One." The man  
then asked, "Can He fit the whole world inside an egg without any change in the size of either  
one?" Hisham then said, "Give me a little time." The man said, "I give you one whole year  
and he left." Hisham then went to see Imam abu 'Abdallah (a.s.) for an Answer. After asking  
permission that he was granted Hisham explained, "Al-Daysani asked me a question today  
and I see no one except Allah and yourself to answer it." The Imam then asked, "What is the  
question?" Hisham restated the question that al-Daysani had asked. The Imam then said, "O  
Hisham, how many are your senses?" He replied, "They are five." The Imam then asked,  
"Which one is the smallest?" He replied, "The seeing sense." The Imam then asked, "How big  
is its size?" He replied, "It is about the size of the pupil or smaller." The Imam then said, "O  
Hisham, look in front of you and above you and then tell me what you have seen." Hisham  
then replied, "I can see the sky, the earth, the houses, the buildings, the land, the mountains  
and the water canals." The Imam then said, "The One who has been able to fit all that you can  
see in a pupil or even a smaller thing is also able to fit the whole world in side an egg without  
any change in the size of any one of them. Hisham bowed down and kissed the feet, the hands  
and the head of the Imam (a.s.) saying, "This is enough for me O descendant of the holy  
Prophet and then left for his home. The next day al-Daysani met him and said, "I have come  
just to say greetings to you and not for an answer to my question" Hisham then said, "Even if  
you may have come for an answer it is ready." Al-Daysani then left to meet Imam abu  
'Abdallah (a.s.) and after asking permission for a meeting which was granted he sat down and  
said, "O Ja'far ibn Muhammad, "Guide me to my Lord." The Imam then asked, "What is your  
name?" He then left without answering the Imam and his people asked him, "Why did you not  
answer the Imam?" He replied, "Were I to tell him that it is 'Abdallah he would then ask that  
who is this Lord whose slave are you?" They then said, "Return to him and ask him to guide  
you to your Lord without asking your name." He then returned back to the Imam and asked,  
"O Ja'far ibn Muhammad, "Guide me to my Lord but do not ask my name." The Imam asked  
him to sit down. A young boy, son of the Imam was there playing with an egg in his hand and  
the Imam asked, "Fetch me the egg O young man. The boy gave the egg to the Imam who  
said, "O Daysani, this is a secure castle. It has a thicker outer shell and inside of it there is  
much finer shell inside of which there is liquid gold and flowing silver. The liquid gold does  



not mix with the flowing silver nor does the flowing silver mix the liquid gold. Such is its  
condition no expert comes out therefrom to find out what is beneficial to it to report back all  
about it nor any corrupting agent enters therein so that its problems would be reported. No  
one knows if it is created for a male or a female. It will burst out with colors of a peacock. Do  
you think there is someone to design and manage it?  

Al-Daysani thought quietly and said, "I testify that there is no god but Allah Who is the only  
Lord and has no partner. I testify that Muhammad (s.a) is His servant and messenger and that  
you are the Imam and an authority from Allah over his creatures and I repent because of  
previous beliefs."  

How long after Muhammed was this dialogue recorded?

 

http://www.fourshiabooks.com/hadith/al-kafi/3/1/4

This Hadith narrated from ear of Imam Sadiq (as)

Jaʿfar ibn Muḥammad al-Ṣādiq (Arabicجعفر بن محمد الصادق‎‎; 700 or 702–765 C.E.), commonly known as Jaʿfar al-Sadiq or simply al-Sadiq(The Truthful), was the sixth Shia Imam and a major figure in the Hanafi and Maliki schools of Sunni jurisprudence.[5] He was a descendant of Ali on the side of his father, Muhammad al-Baqir, and of Muhammad ibn Abu Bakr on the side of his mother, Umm Farwah bint al-Qasim. Muhammad ibn Abu Bakr was raised by Ali, but was not his son.[6] Ali used to say: "Muhammad Ibn Abu Bakr is my son but from Abu Bakr's lineage".[7] Al-Sadiq is the 6th imam and recognized by all Shia sects as an Imam, and is revered in traditional Sunnism as a transmitter of Hadith, prominent jurist,[2] and mystic.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ja'far_al-Sadiq

the example of egg ironically is using for defining the trinity!!!??

 

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14 hours ago, andres said:

Nobody knows how God fixed Jesus death and ressurection. Science say it is impossible. We believe it anyway.

can Jesus be GOD Almighty in the light of the following verses?

If Jesus was GOD, then why in Matthew 24:36 Jesus said "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."  Jesus told his followers that no one (including Jesus) knows when the judgment day will come, only GOD knows?

If Jesus was GOD, then why in Mark 12:29 Jesus said "Here, O Israel:  The Lord our God is one Lord."   The words "our God" indicate that Jesus had a higher God over him, a stronger God than him.  Jesus didn't say "Your God".  He said "our God" which includes Jesus as the creation of GOD.

If Jesus was GOD, then why in Mark 10:18 Jesus said “And Jesus said to him, ‘Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone.”?

Also in Luke 18:19 Jesus said only GOD Almighty is Good: ""Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good—except God alone."

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Abu Ja'far Muhammad ibn Ya'qub has narrated from Ali ibn Ibrahim ibn Hashim from his father, from al-Hassan ibn Ibrahim from Yunus ibn 'Abd al-Rahman from Ali ibn Mansur who narrated the following. 
 


"Hisham ibn al-Hakam has reported that in Egypt there lived a heretic who had heard about  
Imam abu 'Abdallah (a.s.) a great deal. He traveled to Madina to debate the Imam but he  
missed to find the Imam therein. He was told that the Imam has traveled to the city of  
Makkah. He then left for Makkah and we were with the Imam (a.s.) when we came across  
him during our performing Tawaf (the seven times walking around the Ka'bah). The man's  
name was 'Abdul Malik also called abu 'Abdallah as his Kunyah in Arabic. He touched Imam  
abu 'Abdallah' s shoulder with his shoulder as he walked along. The Imam asked him, "What  
is your name?" It is 'Abdul Malik (meaning slave of the King)." The man replied. "What is  
your Kunyah?" The Imam (a.s.) asked. "It is abu 'Abdallah (meaning father of slave of  
Allah)." He replied. The Imam then asked, "Who is this king whose slave you are? Is he of  
the earthly kings or of the heavenly ones? Tell us about your son. Is he a slave of the Lord of  
the heavens or a slave of the Lord of the earth? Say whatever you may it will be against you."  
Hisham has said that I asked him (the heretic man), "Why do you not answer?" The man  
seemed to dislike my words. The Imam (a.s.) then told him, "Meet us when we finish our  
Tawaf (walking around the Ka'bah)." The heretic man came to the Imam (a.s) later and sat in  
front of the Imam (a.s.) and we were all gathered around him.  

The Imam (a.s.) then asked him, "Do you know that the earth has an underside and an  
upperside?" The man replied, "Yes, I know it." The Imam then asked, "Have you gone in the  
underside of the earth?" The man replied, "No, I have not gone there." The Imam (a.s.) then  
asked, "Do you know what is therein?" He said, "I do not know but I guess there is nothing  
therein." The Imam (a.s.) then said, "Guessing is weakness. Why do you not acquire  
certainty?" The Imam (a.s.) then asked, "Have you climbed up into the sky?"  

The man replied, "No, I have not done so." The Imam (a.s.) then asked, "Do you know what  
is up there?" He replied, "No, I do not know." The Imam (a.s.) said, "It is very strange.  
Without reaching the East or West, without going under the earth or climbing up the sky and  
not even have crossed anything to know what is behind you deny what is in them. Does any  
man of reason deny what he does not know?"  



The heretic man then said, "No one has ever come up with such statements to me as you  
have." The Imam (a.s.) then said, "So you are uncertain about Him. Perhaps He is or may be  
He does not exist." The heretic man then said, "Perhaps He is." The Imam then said, "O man,  
one who does not know has no authority over the one who knows. O Egyptian brethren, listen  
carefully. We have no doubts in the existence of Allah (God). Think about the sun, the moon,  
the day and the nights follow each other and do not miss their turns or become confused.  
They each have its place and do not have any choice. If they had any other choice they would  
not come back again. If they had a choice the day would not end with night and the night  
would not end in the day. They are forced to continue, O Egyptian brethren, I swear by Allah  
(God). The One who has forced them is stronger then them and greater.  

What people speak of and you guess it is (dahr) motionless time if it was so, then when it  
would take them away it would not return them and if time have returned them then why it is  
not taking them away? These things, O Egyptian brethren, are compelled. Why the sky is up  
high and why the earth is low? Why the sky does not fall down on earth? Why the earth does  
not flow one layer over the other and the two do not stick to each other and why those on it do  
not stick to it?"  

The man then said, "God their Lord has made them to hold together." Hisham has said, "He  
professed belief in God in the presence of Imam abu 'Abdallah (a.s.)."  

"Humran then said to the Imam, "May Allah take my soul in service for your cause, if heretics  
profess belief in Allah (God) before you it is because the unbelievers converted to faith  
because of your father." The man who had just professed belief in Allah requested Imam abu  
'Abdallah (a.s.) to allow him to become one of his students. The Imam then asked Hisham to  
teach him. Hisham taught him well and he became a teacher for the people in Syria and  
Egypt. His purification was very well and the Imam (a.s.) became happy with him."  

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Imam Ali as said

Hadrat Masih (`a) laid his head on a stone, put on dress made of coarse material, took tough food. His main diet was hunger, at night the moon provided him only light; during winter he slept under the sun at times when it shone or set down; his fruit and vegetable was none other than what the earth grows for animals. He neither had wife that could instigate him to do follies nor did have a child that could make him sorrowful with concern; nor had any property which might have taken away from him; nor had he any kind of greed (for worldly things) that could cause him humiliation. He had no means of moving except his own feet, his servants were his own hands.” 

On another occasion, addressing one of his companions, Nuf Bukali, Hadrat `Ali (`a), says: “Blessing be on those pious persons who have turned away from the worldly attachments like Christ.”

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Jew asked questions from Imam Ali as

Imam Ali (a.s.) was always available when the three kholafa sought his advice on religious matters. His position as the jurist was on the top of the list among the companions of the Holy Prophet (saw). Umar Ibne Khattab the 2nd Caliph had given clear instructions that when Ali was present in the mosque of the Prophet no one should take precedence over him in answering questions on religious matters. In one such encounter during the time of the 2nd Caliph, a group of Jewish scholars approached the caliph and said, “We have a few questions. If we get the answers to these questions correctly, we will accept the Islamic faith.

“Ask whatever you want to ask,” said the caliph.

They asked the following questions:
Who was the messenger who was neither of the human nor of the Jinn and who warned his people?
Which are the 5 beings who were created without ! the aid of ovaries?
What are one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven and twelve?

The caliph thought over these questions for a time, then said, “I do not know the answers to these questions. I will take you to a man who is most knowledgeable in the commandments of Allah and the Holy Prophet and the greatest among us.

The caliph then brought the Jewish scholars to Ali (a.s.). They asked the same questions to him. Ali (a.s.) answered thus:

The messenger who warned his people is the ant who, when Solomon’s army was passing by, said to his people, ” Enter your houses so that the army may not stamp you out (without intention)”. So Allah states in the Holy Qur’an, ” Until they came to the valley of the Ants, said an ant (addressing the other ants of the valley) O” you ants’ enter into! your dwellings, so that Solomon and his hosts may not crush you while they know it not”. (Sura An-Naml. V 18)

The five beings who were not born of ovaries are: Adam, Eve, the staff of Moses which used to change into a python, the camel of Saleh, and the sheep of Ibrahim (which was sent by Allah to become a ransom of the life of Ibrahim’s son Ismael).

One is Allah who has no partners,

two are Adam and Eve,

three are the substances ( i.e. non-living matter, plants and animals),

four are the Heavenly books: Torah of Moses, Bible of Jesus, Zubur of Dawood and the Qur’an of Hadhrat Muhammad (saw).

Five are the daily prayers.

Six are the days of creation of the heavens and earth, as per the verse of the Qur’an: ” And indeed We created the heavens and the earth and what is between them two, in six periods and touched us not any fatigue.” (Sura Qaf V. 38).

Seven are the seven heavens, in the light of the Qur’anic Verse: ” And we have erected above you the seven strong ones.” (Sura An-Naba V12)

Eight are those angels who bear the heavens, as per the Qur’anic Verse: ” And the angels shall be on the side of it; and above them shall bear that day `Arsh’ (the throne of authority). of your Lord, eight of them (Sura Al-Haaqqah. V.17)

Nine are the nine signs given to Moses as stated by God: “And indeed we gave Moses nine clear signs (miracles); so ask the children of Israel when he came to them, Pharaoh said to him; “Verily I deem you O’ Moses one bewitched. “(Sura Bani Israel, V 101).

Ten are the ten days, i.e. God had promised Moses that he would stay on the mountain of Toor for thirty days, and later added ten more days to this duration, as it is stated in the Qur’an.” And we made an appointment with Moses for thirty nights and completed it with ten more;” Thus was completed the term of his Lord, forty nights, and (before he went up) Moses said to his brother Aaron: You take my place among my people, act rightly and follow not the path of the mischief-makers.” (Sura Al-A’araf. V.142).

Eleven are the brothers of Joseph, son of Jacob, as the Qur’an states, “When said Joseph to his father, O’ my father; Verily I did see (dream) eleven stars and the sun and the moon,, I saw them all prostrating to me.” (Sura Yousuf. V.4).

Twelve are the Twelve water-springs manifested by the staff of Moses, as God states, ” And (remember) when Moses sought water for his people; said We, `Strike the rock with your staff’ Then gushed out therefrom twelve springs; each people knew their drinking place; “Eat and drink from God’s provision, and commit not evil in the earth acting mischievously. “(Sura Al Baqarah V60).

When the Jewish scholars heard the replies of Hadhrat Ali (a.s.) they said, “We bear witness that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad (saw) is His Messenger and Ali (a.s.) is the “Wasi” and successor of the Messenger of Allah as Aaron was the Wasi of Moses. They all embraced Islam, went back to their tribe and converted all of them to Islam.

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2 hours ago, father said:

How can you say that, it is not in the Genesis 

How could the writers of Genesis know? Evolution was totally unknown to them. Only a few years ago human existence was known to be 200.000 years old. Findings this very year, changed the figure to 300.000.

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2 hours ago, father said:

can Jesus be GOD Almighty in the light of the following verses?

If Jesus was GOD, then why in Matthew 24:36 Jesus said "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."  Jesus told his followers that no one (including Jesus) knows when the judgment day will come, only GOD knows?

If Jesus was GOD, then why in Mark 12:29 Jesus said "Here, O Israel:  The Lord our God is one Lord."   The words "our God" indicate that Jesus had a higher God over him, a stronger God than him.  Jesus didn't say "Your God".  He said "our God" which includes Jesus as the creation of GOD.

If Jesus was GOD, then why in Mark 10:18 Jesus said “And Jesus said to him, ‘Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone.”?

Also in Luke 18:19 Jesus said only GOD Almighty is Good: ""Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good—except God alone."

Trinitarians believe God, Jesus and the Spirit to be one and the same. I am not trinitarian. The nature of Jesus and God is to complicated for us to grasp. Christians differ when trying to imagine this, so do even the 4 Gospels. I dont think we should bother about questions we will never understand, Just say: for God nothing is impossible.

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6 minutes ago, andres said:

Just say: for God nothing is impossible.

Hi so he doesn’t need to become a man to forgive sins or understand people. If he had become a man so somethings for him is impossible.

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41 minutes ago, andres said:
3 hours ago, father said:

 

How could the writers of Genesis know? Evolution was totally unknown to them. Only a few years ago human existence was known to be 200.000 years old. Findings this very year, changed the figure to 300.000.

But god knows he has revealed genesis 

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On 12/25/2017 at 9:52 AM, andres said:

when he fell ill and died, had time to compile and finish the Quran. More plausible is the story that Zayd ibn Thabit did it when Muhammed was dead. But as long as there are no contemporary records of how and when the compilation took place, the story will remain disputed. 

Can you show us your statement in Wikipedia,Quran ? True written history. Andres, Have You EVER Read that website in your life or you you want to come here and tell lie?

Andres, do yourself a favor: Stop Spreading False information. can you do that for ONCE in your life or not ?

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On 11/6/2017 at 12:41 PM, thegoodman81 said:

Voila, you've got a simple, rational context in which Muhammad could very reasonably have known incomplete biblical stories as well as falsehoods. He may not even have needed to twist them. 

By the way, no book can be a miracle in and of itself, because choosing and arranging words in any order is an ability that most humans have (and it doesn't matter that Muhammad was illiterate; Homer was blind, but he composed The Iliad and the Odyssey.)

Also, even if you say that the content of the words in the Qur'an couldn't have been disclosed by a human, you are missing the fact that its content borrows from earlier sources. If this content was revealed by a miracle, the miracle was for the earlier authors, not Muhammad. Certainly not exclusive to him. But like I said, a book isn't a miracle anyway. People can arrange words in any order, regardless of the language. 

What's your explanation of all these science miracles in Quran if it was a "normal borrowing of words" from previous books ?

http://www.speed-light.info/miracles_of_quran/index.html

 

Why "None of these" calculation and miracles can be achieved from your Bible ? What makes Quran so special?

How could an uneducated person in 1400 years ago, was able to do all calculations by himself, if it was not given to him from the main source of knowledge!!!

Now, Do you Believe in Quran !!!!

 

 

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