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Abul Hussain Hassani

Eid al-Ghadeer an innovation?

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@SunniBrother A very apt explanation of  Biddah (Innovation, Change). When you said that Changing of Qibla was a Biddah. No its not.

It was a Law.

Read from page 25. A debate between Prophet(s) and Jews about change of Qibla.

https://www.al-islam.org/printpdf/book/export/html/29900

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On 9/6/2017 at 7:52 AM, Abul Hussain Hassani said:

:bismillah:

:salam:

How significant is Eid al-Ghadeer among the Shias?

This article say this Eid has no basis in Shia sources and the Ahlulbait never celebrated it.

http://ghadirkhumm.com/eid-al-ghadir/

P.S. The website is run by Sunnis.

 

الحمد لله الذي هدانا صراطاً سوياً، والصلاة والسلام على خير البرية أبي القاسم محمد بن عبد الله وآله الاطهار، سيما ابن عمه علي المرتضى وخليفته على الورى واللعنة على أعدائهم أجمعين إلى يوم الدين

All praise is for He Who guided us to the right path; and His peace and blessings be upon the best of his creation, Abul-Qasim Mohammad ibn Abdillah, and upon his pure progeny, especially his cousin, Ali Al-Murtadha, his immediate successor; and may the curse of Allah be upon all their enemies until the Day of Judgement.

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"O Apostle! Deliver what has been sent down to you from your Lord; and if you don't do it, you have not delivered His message (at all); and Allah will protect you from the people ..." (Qur'an 5:67)

عَنْ جَعْفَرٍ عَنْ أَبِيهِقَالَ: إِنَّ إِبْلِيسَ عَدُوَّ اللٌّهِ رَنَّ أَرْبَعَ رَنَّاتٍ: يَوْمَ لُعِنَ، وَ يَوْمَ أُهْبِطَ إلـى الأَرْضِ، وَ يَوْمَ بُعِثَ النَّبِيُّوَ يَوْمَ الْغَدِيرِ

It has been narrated from Ja'far [Imam Ja'far ibn Muhammad as-Sadiq] (peace be upon him) from his father [Imam Muhammad ibn 'Ali al-Baqir] (peace be upon him) that: “Iblis, the enemy of Allah, cried out (in hopelessness) four times: The day when he was cursed (by Allah); the day when he was sent down to the Earth; the day when the Prophet (blessings of Allah be upon him and his family) was officially appointed (to convey the message on Earth); and on the Day of Ghadir.”
 
Qurbul Isnad, Page 10

https://www.al-islam.org/forty-ahadith-ghadir-mahmud-sharifi/wilayat-ghadir#hadith-no-35-day-cry-despair-shaitan

EID MUBARAK

 

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On 9/6/2017 at 7:52 AM, Abul Hussain Hassani said:

:bismillah:

:salam:

How significant is Eid al-Ghadeer among the Shias?

This article say this Eid has no basis in Shia sources and the Ahlulbait never celebrated it.

http://ghadirkhumm.com/eid-al-ghadir/

P.S. The website is run by Sunnis.

 

الحمد لله الذي هدانا صراطاً سوياً، والصلاة والسلام على خير البرية أبي القاسم محمد بن عبد الله وآله الاطهار، سيما ابن عمه علي المرتضى وخليفته على الورى واللعنة على أعدائهم أجمعين إلى يوم الدين

All praise is for He Who guided us to the right path; and His peace and blessings be upon the best of his creation, Abul-Qasim Mohammad ibn Abdillah, and upon his pure progeny, especially his cousin, Ali Al-Murtadha, his immediate successor; and may the curse of Allah be upon all their enemies until the Day of Judgement.

*****

"O Apostle! Deliver what has been sent down to you from your Lord; and if you don't do it, you have not delivered His message (at all); and Allah will protect you from the people ..." (Qur'an 5:67)

عَنْ جَعْفَرٍ عَنْ أَبِيهِقَالَ: إِنَّ إِبْلِيسَ عَدُوَّ اللٌّهِ رَنَّ أَرْبَعَ رَنَّاتٍ: يَوْمَ لُعِنَ، وَ يَوْمَ أُهْبِطَ إلـى الأَرْضِ، وَ يَوْمَ بُعِثَ النَّبِيُّوَ يَوْمَ الْغَدِيرِ

It has been narrated from Ja'far [Imam Ja'far ibn Muhammad as-Sadiq] (peace be upon him) from his father [Imam Muhammad ibn 'Ali al-Baqir] (peace be upon him) that: “Iblis, the enemy of Allah, cried out (in hopelessness) four times: The day when he was cursed (by Allah); the day when he was sent down to the Earth; the day when the Prophet (blessings of Allah be upon him and his family) was officially appointed (to convey the message on Earth); and on the Day of Ghadir.”
 
Qurbul Isnad, Page 10

https://www.al-islam.org/forty-ahadith-ghadir-mahmud-sharifi/wilayat-ghadir#hadith-no-35-day-cry-despair-shaitan

EID MUBARAK

 

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On 9/6/2017 at 0:38 PM, SunniBrother said:

Brother. I classical sunnism there is good and bad bidah. This version of all bidah is bad is the same method that Wahhabis use. Madhabds are bidah, books of hadith is bidah, the methodologies to read the Qur'an and Hadiths are bidah. For example I saw a twelver who had the idea of reading tafseer of the Qur'an with the Qur'an. That's a bidah, but a good one. Usul is bidah. So on and so fort. There's good and bad bidah. This term of labeling all bidah bad is the same that Ibn Taymiyyah used and the same wahhabis use. Getting a piece of clay from Karbala to put your head in is bidah. Were does the Prophet (s.a.w.s) went to Karbala get clay to pray? Here is the biggest Bidah of all that Allah Himself ordered "Change the qibla from Jerusalem to Mecca".

So how does one go about determining good bidah vs. bad bidah.

 

Is ShiaChat good bidah or bad bidah because for sure the Prophet (saw) was not online.

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