Ghazwa e Hind (Find Battle of India)

[SIAR14]

Ghazwa-e-Hind or the final battle of India is firmly believe by suni Muslims. According to them they have a lot of hadiths in particular predicting a final and last battle in India and as a result, a conquest of the whole Indian sub-continent by Muslim warriors. They name these Muslim warriors KHURASANIs. Some of the haidths are as follows.

1) Holy Prophet (pbuh) Told Hazrat Abu Huraira:

"From the Umat (Followers of Islam currently) there will be a rise of Battalions from Sindh (Indus) and Hind (Sub-continent). If I got opportunity to be part of such a movement and if I martyred then it is good, if I returned alive I will be like free Abu Huraira who is freed from Hell by Allah".

2) Holy Prophet (pbuh) Told Hazrat Suban:

"Two groups in my Umma will be freed by Allah from hell fire, one which will conquer India and the other which will be with Hazrat Esa (as)."

I heard a lot about GHAZAWA E HIND from Suni intellects and scholars but unfortunately never heard anything about GHAZAWA E HIND from shia scholars. Though currently I have suni sources, but this battle makes sense to me, especially when INDIA is joining hands with ISREAL.

I really want to know what is Shia’s believe regarding this battle. Do we have any sources regrading this last battle of India or not? 

JazakAllah.

[wolverine]

On 7/16/2017 at 3:58 AM, Syed Irtiza Ali Rizvi said:

I really want to know what is Shia’s believe regarding this battle. Do we have any sources regrading this last battle of India or not? 

Salam. The hadith mentioned above have been called a myth.  

[Hameedeh]

On 7/16/2017 at 3:58 AM, Syed Irtiza Ali Rizvi said:

Ghazwa-e-Hind or the final battle of India is firmly believe by suni Muslims.

Salam. Also do a search for Ghazwa-tul-Hind. There are numerous reasons that the Sunni hadith are not reliable:

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First, none of the so-called Ghazwa-e-Hind Ahadith find a mention in the Sihah-e-Sittah, which is a compilation of six authenticated Hadith collections that have been meticulously scrutinized by Hadith experts and considered to be the most reliable.

Second, two of the Ahadith do find a mention in an unauthenticated Hadith collection of Imam Nasai but not in the Sunan an-Nasai al Sughra, which is among the six books counted among the Sihah-e-Sittah. The other two Ahadith do not find a mention in any compilation of Ahaditth.

Third, even the two Ahadith mentioned in the unauthenticated collection of Imam Nasai have difficulties. Imam Nasai died in 915, many years after the compilation of Sihah-e-Sittah. This obviously raises the question as to why Imam Nasai mentioned a Hadith that his predecessors had not mentioned at all. If there was any truth in the Gazwa-e-Hind, would all his predecessors have missed it totally, especially one as important as this that promised a direct entry to paradise?

Fourth, all these four Ahadith are narrated through a single chain, that is, only through one companion of the Prophet (peace be upon him). This technicality is enough to reject the Hadith.

Fifth, it is surprising that such a Hadith has come to prominence only in the last decade or two. If it was authentic, surely invaders like Mahmud Ghazni, Ghori and so on would have claimed resort to it to motivate their soldiers. The fact that none did for over a thousand years throws doubts about its authenticity.

Sixth, Shah Waliullah, the 18th century Islamic scholar who invited Ahmad Shah Abdali to invade India and fight against the Marathas, made no reference to this Hadith. A scholar of his standing would surely have known about this Hadith and so couched his invitation accordingly if there had been one such.

Finally, none of these Ahadith finds a mention in the Shia Hadith collections. Contrarily, the Shias believe that Abu Huraira actually demonised the Prophet and vulgarised Islam through his dubious collection of Ahadith.

http://www.business-standard.com/article/news-ani/the-myth-of-ghazwa-e-hind-114121800185_1.html

[Ashvazdanghe]

 

[Zulfiqar1472]

Ghazwa e Hind is mythical slogan to engage stranded youth from Sunni school of thought who live on Bollywood movies. They did not know the duas of jihad etc... the practices .... But want their version of Islam to rule the world.

[haidermpr]

On 7/16/2017 at 1:28 PM, SIAR14 said:

Ghazwa-e-Hind 

Dear Wa alaikum as salam,

First of all, Ghazwa means and accepted by majority of historians a war in which Prophet (saww) himself had took part or supposed to be present personally whereas the wars where Prophet (saww) were no present personally were used to be called Sarriya.

Prophet (saww) departed this world long ago and he is not going to come back to lead Ghazwa in any sense so who is going to lead? That means its just imagination of few hadith collectors who used this hadith to help Muslim invading rulers to conquer the land of Hind and Sindh and nothing more.

Secondly as mentioned by other brothers and sisters, it is not there in any authentic hadith collections of Ahle Sunnah brothers.

Prophet (saww) came to this world not to rule the masses but to guide them to light whereas rulers majority of past and present used wars to expand their rule and not to guide. So, these so called Muslim rulers never helped in true sense for the propagation of Islam.

[Enlightened Follower]

On 7/16/2017 at 3:58 AM, SIAR14 said:

Ghazwa-e-Hind or the final battle of India is firmly believe by suni Muslims. According to them they have a lot of hadiths in particular predicting a final and last battle in India and as a result, a conquest of the whole Indian sub-continent by Muslim warriors. They name these Muslim warriors KHURASANIs. Some of the haidths are as follows.

1) Holy Prophet ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)) Told Hazrat Abu Huraira:

"From the Umat (Followers of Islam currently) there will be a rise of Battalions from Sindh (Indus) and Hind (Sub-continent). If I got opportunity to be part of such a movement and if I martyred then it is good, if I returned alive I will be like free Abu Huraira who is freed from Hell by Allah".

2) Holy Prophet ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)) Told Hazrat Suban:

"Two groups in my Umma will be freed by Allah from hell fire, one which will conquer India and the other which will be with Hazrat Esa (عليه السلام)."

I heard a lot about GHAZAWA E HIND from Suni intellects and scholars but unfortunately never heard anything about GHAZAWA E HIND from Shia scholars. Though currently I have suni sources, but this battle makes sense to me, especially when India is joining hands with ISREAL.

I really want to know what is Shia’s believe regarding this battle. Do we have any sources regrading this last battle of India or not? 

JazakAllah.

Sunnis themselves have ruled this Hadith as weak

[Guest Rahij Hasan]

I am myself a Shia I am surprised by the defensive mode of Shias even if there is no such Hadith but what about the the final war at the time of Imam Mahdi of war is so bad 

how will Imam conquer this world obviously with sword so I don’t know even if there is such a Hadith why do we as Shias need to be so apologetic about it and if there is is no such Hadith how can we believe that Imam Mahdi will fight and conquer the world land by the way in Sunni sources this Hadith is about the time of Imam Mahdi it is one of the many battles to be fought at that time