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99 0UT OF 100 WILL GO TO HELL.

There this Haidth which say out of every 100 muslims 99 will go to hell.-Sahih Bukhari 8: 76: 536.

Further it is said: In end of times there will be war upon war. 99 out 100 will die. The one who got killed and one who will be killing the innocent will not know the reason of his action. Both are going to go in Hell.

Now I have question regarding this Haidth

1.      Is this hadith is only for end of times or for whole UMMAH since its birth?

2.      Whom this hadith refereeing to? Muslims, Non-Muslims or Both?

3.      Most Important question. Why will innocent one. Who got killed will be going to hell? 

 

I will be really glad it someone can guide be step by step. JazakAllah. YA ALI MADAD

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3 hours ago, Syed Irtiza Ali Rizvi said:

99 0UT OF 100 WILL GO TO HELL.

There this Haidth which say out of every 100 muslims 99 will go to hell.-Sahih Bukhari 8: 76: 536.

Further it is said: In end of times there will be war upon war. 99 out 100 will die. The one who got killed and one who will be killing the innocent will not know the reason of his action. Both are going to go in Hell.

Now I have question regarding this Haidth

1.      Is this hadith is only for end of times or for whole UMMAH since its birth?

2.      Whom this hadith refereeing to? Muslims, Non-Muslims or Both?

3.      Most Important question. Why will innocent one. Who got killed will be going to hell? 

 

I will be really glad it someone can guide be step by step. JazakAllah. YA ALI MADAD

End times Momin. You worry too much. Breathe nicely, slowly absorb the information, comprehend and accept.

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30 minutes ago, Darth Vader said:

Bro its a Sunni hadith. We do not believe in them. You should take your question to a Sunni forum to be very honest.

I just quoted the Sunni reference. But Shia also believe in this haidhth:-). Not all Sunni Haidth are unauthentic. 

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10 minutes ago, AfricanShia said:

End times Momin. You worry too much. Breathe nicely, slowly absorb the information, comprehend and accept.

Hahah. True that. I have too much curiosity regarding end of times :-D. Just cant help it and every day new question pop up into my mind. I find this topic really interesting and I believe every Shia should be well aware of those signs as in this time of FITNA there is very thin line between being Momin and Munfiq.

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6 minutes ago, Syed Irtiza Ali Rizvi said:

Hahah. True that. I have too much curiosity regarding end of times :-D. Just cant help it and every day new question pop up into my mind. I find this topic really interesting and I believe every Shia should be well aware of those signs as in this time of FITNA there is very thin line between being Momin and Munfiq.

True. So little Shias actually "Real Faith". Many cant even pray their obligatory Salat because they dont want to. O'Allah, what has happened to this world. 

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No doubt the majority of people will unfortunately go to jahannam, due to the fact that the majority of people deny Allah... At the end of the day Allah is the best of Judges, whomsoever He decides to put in Jannah or throw in the abyss is up to Him the exalted.

I have read/heard narrations that state that indeed the Shia (lovers of ahlulbayt included) will be the only ones granted Jannah and in addition even they (Shia) will need the acceptance and shifa'a (intercession) of Rasuul Allah Muhammad and Ahlulbayt (alayhum alsalam). 

As for the innocent ones i have also read narrations that state that the ones upon whom in their lifetimes  did not come across any hujjah (proof) in which resulted in them being uninformed and uneducated on the truth, these people will be granted a test on the day of judgement, Allahu a'lam what this test is but some narrate that this test is as follows..

Now obviously when everyone has been resurrected on the day of judgement and are all called on towards their Lord will every single one on that day know the truth. The truth will be laid in front of them, Allah is your lord, Muhammad is the final messenger of Allah, Ali is the wali of Allah etc, everything.

Allah will then exam these uninformed people a test. 

This test is simply to throw yourself into hellfire. Now anyone who does so out of obedience to the Almighty Allah and jumps, will be lifted up to Jannah immediately before they hit the pit. But whomsoever disobeys will be thrown into hell, because the Hujjah came to them, but they did not obey it. 

But there are still narrations that state that Allah will forgive so many people on the day of judgement that even shaytan will think he has a chance...

Wa Allahu al-Aalim.

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2 hours ago, ali_fatheroforphans said:

I don't know whether this hadith is authentic or not.

However, I feel this is a wake up call for all the Muslims who feel Jannah is promised for them.

Imam Ja'far al-Sadiq(as) at the time of his death gathered his relatives and said "Verily, our intercession will never reach the one who takes the prayers lightly.”

Like @AfricanShia said, how many of us actually take our prayers seriously? Like pray on time and with humility? 

Also you have so many Muslims who listen to haram music and get into this harram Western culture. Even many Shias I know have no traits of a true Moimin. It will get worse and worse for the later generations.

However don't forget that Allah is just and merciful. Allah's mercy exceeds his wrath.

:censored:

Its a shame Brother in regards to people taking the faith seriously. 

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4 hours ago, King said:

Why create billions of beings when you are going to torture 99% of them?

Are you a child? Who thinks like that? Allah does not torture anyone without a reason. You are like the dumb atheist who impose "the problem of evil" in their debates. Is it God whom is the evil one, when He created you out of His mercy, nurtures you, guides you, wakes you up every morning and keeps His door of repentance open even until the brink of death, or the one whom even in spite of ALL these countless bounties, goes on to disobey Him and oppress the rights of the people and spread fasad on His earth. Allah does not do injustice upon anyone rather it is the people who do injustice upon themselves...

I am answering to your statement with a similar statement:

Why disobey the Almighty Lord when your utter existence is in His hands, when you are absolutely nothing without Him and would be completely destroyed if it wasn't for His will to keep you alive.

 

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10 hours ago, Darth Vader said:

Bro its a Sunni hadith. We do not believe in them. You should take your question to a Sunni forum to be very honest.

Mr.

Something written in sunni books doesn't mean it wrong. 

And what ever written in Shia hadith books doesn't mean by default it is correct. 

The above hadith needs to evaluated and extrapolate the interpretation by proper analysis. 

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46 minutes ago, AliMohammed said:

Are you a child? Who thinks like that? Allah does not torture anyone without a reason. You are like the dumb atheist who impose "the problem of evil" in their debates. Is it God whom is the evil one, when He created you out of His mercy, nurtures you, guides you, wakes you up every morning and keeps His door of repentance open even until the brink of death, or the one whom even in spite of ALL these countless bounties, goes on to disobey Him and oppress the rights of the people and spread fasad on His earth. Allah does not do injustice upon anyone rather it is the people who do injustice upon themselves...

I am answering to your statement with a similar statement:

Why disobey the Almighty Lord when your utter existence is in His hands, when you are absolutely nothing without Him and would be completely destroyed if it wasn't for His will to keep you alive.

 

@AliMohammed

Even though your answer is right. But using improper words is not justified. 

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13 hours ago, Syed Irtiza Ali Rizvi said:

99 0UT OF 100 WILL GO TO HELL.

There this Haidth which say out of every 100 muslims 99 will go to hell.-Sahih Bukhari 8: 76: 536.

Further it is said: In end of times there will be war upon war. 99 out 100 will die. The one who got killed and one who will be killing the innocent will not know the reason of his action. Both are going to go in Hell.

Now I have question regarding this Haidth

1.      Is this hadith is only for end of times or for whole UMMAH since its birth?

2.      Whom this hadith refereeing to? Muslims, Non-Muslims or Both?

3.      Most Important question. Why will innocent one. Who got killed will be going to hell? 

 

I will be really glad it someone can guide be step by step. JazakAllah. YA ALI MADAD

This is the good question and needs expert to interpret it.And is beyond our level. 

Still the part of hadith that says one who got killed killed will also go into he'll is against Islamic justice. Rest everyone has encounter fruit his actions seed. 

 

Edited by islam25

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36 minutes ago, islam25 said:

Didn't you say y

" you are dumb Atheist "And it is improper word. 

 

When did i call the brother an atheist? 

 

3 hours ago, AliMohammed said:

You are like the dumb atheist who impose

notice the word like (used to reference for ex. to a thing being similar to another).

I used the word dumb in this context because of the fact that atheist are truly people with lack of intellect due to their denial to the truth, and that is Allah. 

If you are uncertain of the permissibleness in the usage of the word dumb when describing an atheist, i will give you examples from the Quran where Allah the glorified calls the deniers of the truth dumb:

for instance:

(صُمٌّ بُكْمٌ عُمْيٌ فَهُمْ لَا يَرْجِعُونَ) surah al-Baqarah ayat 18

Deaf, dumb and blind - so they will not return [to the right path].

This is only one ayat that comes to mind, but there are no doubt many many more.

and in addition the countless ahadith from reliable sources in which for ex. ahlulbayt would ask Allah to decrease His mercy from the atheist, those who deny the truth and disobey Allah.

... Also why i said that the brother is 'like' the atheist, is because he used a argument that is extremely similar to the atheist and that is explained in my text. 

Wa salaam

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44 minutes ago, AliMohammed said:

 

 

When did i call the brother an atheist? 

 

notice the word like (used to reference for ex. to a thing being similar to another).

I used the word dumb in this context because of the fact that atheist are truly people with lack of intellect due to their denial to the truth, and that is Allah. 

If you are uncertain of the permissibleness in the usage of the word dumb when describing an atheist, i will give you examples from the Quran where Allah the glorified calls the deniers of the truth dumb:

for instance:

(صُمٌّ بُكْمٌ عُمْيٌ فَهُمْ لَا يَرْجِعُونَ) surah al-Baqarah ayat 18

Deaf, dumb and blind - so they will not return [to the right path].

This is only one ayat that comes to mind, but there are no doubt many many more.

and in addition the countless ahadith from reliable sources in which for ex. ahlulbayt would ask Allah to decrease His mercy from the atheist, those who deny the truth and disobey Allah.

... Also why i said that the brother is 'like' the atheist, is because he used a argument that is extremely similar to the atheist and that is explained in my text. 

Wa salaam

It is first time someone gives justification for bad words. 

Bad word have no justification. 

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5 minutes ago, islam25 said:

It is first time someone gives justification for bad words. 

Bad word have no justification. 

You have misunderstood.

Surely insulting and oppressing the rights of an individual is wrong, this individual has to be free from any wrongdoings for this rule to be applied. 

For example:

1.You see an individual who hasn't done anything wrong, you insult him without any reason whatsoever, this is haram no doubt.

2. You see a person, who who denies Allah, does so and encourages other people to do so as well, you call him dumb (which is an undeniable fact, the ones who deny Allah are truly dumb as the Quran states) that is not haram, on the contrary it is encouraged. There is a hadith from Rasuul Allah, it is as follows: 

إذا رأيتم أهل الريب والبدع من بعدي فأظهروا البراءة منهم وأكثروا من سبهم والقول فيهم والوقيعة، وباهتوهم كي لا يطمعوا في الفساد في الإسلام ويحذرهم الناس ولا يتعلمون من بدعهم ، يكتب الله لكم بذلك الحسنات ويرفع لكم به الدرجات في الآخرة

"If you come across the people of confusion and innovation after me then disassociate from them and increase in their insults in order that they will not undertake fasad in Islam and so that the people would be wary of them and not learn from their innovations, Allah will write you by that good tidings and will raise your ranks in the hereafter"

Now brother read carefully this next part where i will explain this...

This commandment from Rasuul Allah (s) is aimed towards the heads of deviancy and the heads of deception. This hadith does not allow us to pick up innocent people from the streets and insult them and oppress then NO, you only disassociate from the heads and insult them only. 

Now for argument sake, lets assume that the word dumb is an insult (which it clearly is not), I only directed it towards the heads of atheist, the likes of Richard Dawkins, Stephen Hawking, Christopher Hitchens etc. the likes of them who strive on the path trying to clear people out of the way of Allah and deceive them and make them turn against God nauudubillah. These people are no doubt cursed by Allah, and we should also disassociate ourselves from them and ask Allah to withdraw His mercy from these kinds of people. 

I say again, so that you would not misunderstand. I do not condone insulting the laymen! Only the heads of deviancy!

And please brother, if you want to discuss more, send me a private message here, i don't think it is wise to carry on this discussion here since it is not about the topic.

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19 hours ago, ali_fatheroforphans said:

I don't know whether this hadith is authentic or not.

However, I feel this is a wake up call for all the Muslims who feel Jannah is promised for them.

Imam Ja'far al-Sadiq(as) at the time of his death gathered his relatives and said "Verily, our intercession will never reach the one who takes the prayers lightly.”

Like @AfricanShia said, how many of us actually take our prayers seriously? Like pray on time and with humility? 

Also you have so many Muslims who listen to haram music and get into this harram Western culture. Even many Shias I know have no traits of a true Moimin. It will get worse and worse for the later generations.

However don't forget that Allah is just and merciful. Allah's mercy exceeds his wrath.

:censored:

Being a Shia is not easy brother. We have so many responsibilities. Some of those responsibilities we have in our knowledge but we don't take them seriously i.e Music is HARAM and western culture which is ruining our values.  Then we have those responsibility which we are not aware of due to our lack of knowledge and non seriousness towards our religion. i.e Protection of our eyes, ears and tongue from sinful activities.

Then it is hard to understand how can Believer of AHLUL BAYT (A.S) even think of leaving  WAJIB PRAYERS :-O 

Imam Baqir (A.S) says:  Our Shias are those who Pray 51 Rakats in a day (17 Wajib Rakats, 23 Nafal Rakats and 11 Tahajud Rakats ). 

MAY Allah GUIDE US ALL and KEEP US AWAY FORM ALL MAJOR AND MINOR SINS.

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18 hours ago, AliMohammed said:

No doubt the majority of people will unfortunately go to jahannam, due to the fact that the majority of people deny Allah... At the end of the day Allah is the best of Judges, whomsoever He decides to put in Jannah or throw in the abyss is up to Him the exalted.

I have read/heard narrations that state that indeed the Shia (lovers of ahlulbayt included) will be the only ones granted Jannah and in addition even they (Shia) will need the acceptance and shifa'a (intercession) of Rasuul Allah Muhammad and Ahlulbayt (alayhum alsalam). 

As for the innocent ones i have also read narrations that state that the ones upon whom in their lifetimes  did not come across any hujjah (proof) in which resulted in them being uninformed and uneducated on the truth, these people will be granted a test on the day of judgement, Allahu a'lam what this test is but some narrate that this test is as follows..

Now obviously when everyone has been resurrected on the day of judgement and are all called on towards their Lord will every single one on that day know the truth. The truth will be laid in front of them, Allah is your lord, Muhammad is the final messenger of Allah, Ali is the wali of Allah etc, everything.

Allah will then exam these uninformed people a test. 

This test is simply to throw yourself into hellfire. Now anyone who does so out of obedience to the Almighty Allah and jumps, will be lifted up to Jannah immediately before they hit the pit. But whomsoever disobeys will be thrown into hell, because the Hujjah came to them, but they did not obey it. 

But there are still narrations that state that Allah will forgive so many people on the day of judgement that even shaytan will think he has a chance...

Wa Allahu al-Aalim.

There is another very interesting saying of Maula Ali (A.S)

He Says:

Jews have become 71 sects, 70 will go in hell and 1 will go in Heaven, those are the one who followed trustee of Musa, Yusf'a bin Noon. 

Christian have become 72 sects, 71 will go in hell and 1 will go in Heaven, those are the one who followed trustee of Esha, Shamu'n.

This ummah  is divided into 73 sects 72 will go in hell and 1 in go in Heaven, those are the one who followed the True Successor of Muhammad (Peace be upnon him).

Then he Further said: out of 73 sects 13 will connect themselves with love of Ali but 12 will go in Hell and 1 will be In Heaven.

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10 minutes ago, Syed Irtiza Ali Rizvi said:

There is another very interesting saying of Maula Ali (A.S)

He Says:

Jews have become 71 sects, 70 will go in hell and 1 will go in Heaven, those are the one who followed trustee of Musa, Yusf'a bin Noon. 

Christian have become 72 sects, 71 will go in hell and 1 will go in Heaven, those are the one who followed trustee of Esha, Shamu'n.

This ummah  is divided into 73 sects 72 will go in hell and 1 in go in Heaven, those are the one who followed the True Successor of Muhammad (Peace be upnon him).

Then he Further said: out of 73 sects 13 will connect themselves with love of Ali but 12 will go in Hell and 1 will be In Heaven.

Ahsantum brother, that is true. 

If you think of it, at the end of the day the true believers are so rare...

They are like legendary/mythical beings... It is sad that at this time, out of half a billion of people claiming to be shia, there aren't even 313 true believers... Out of thousands upon thousands of ulamaa' the Imam is still not here... I only ask Allah to guide us to the truth.

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On 7/6/2017 at 4:03 AM, AliMohammed said:

Are you a child? Who thinks like that? Allah does not torture anyone without a reason. You are like the dumb atheist who impose "the problem of evil" in their debates. Is it God whom is the evil one, when He created you out of His mercy, nurtures you, guides you, wakes you up every morning and keeps His door of repentance open even until the brink of death, or the one whom even in spite of ALL these countless bounties, goes on to disobey Him and oppress the rights of the people and spread fasad on His earth. Allah does not do injustice upon anyone rather it is the people who do injustice upon themselves...

I am answering to your statement with a similar statement:

Why disobey the Almighty Lord when your utter existence is in His hands, when you are absolutely nothing without Him and would be completely destroyed if it wasn't for His will to keep you alive.

 

Excellent.  Mashallah

Also funny.

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6 hours ago, iavswn said:

Christians going to hell?

This is what Allah is going to decide, we can't be certain about things which solely Allah has to decide. We can't even be certain about Muslim whether he is going to heaven or not.

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Volume 8, Book 76, Number 536 :
Narrated by Abu Huraira

    The Prophet said, "The first man to be called on the Day of Resurrection will be Adam who will be shown his offspring, and it will be said to them, 'This is your father, Adam.' Adam will say (responding to the call), 'Labbaik and Sa'daik' Then Allah will say (to Adam), 'Take out of your offspring, the people of Hell.' Adam will say, 'O Lord, how many should I take out?' Allah will say, 'Take out ninety-nine out of every hundred." They (the Prophet's companions) said, "O Allah's Apostle! If ninety-nine out of every one hundred of us are taken away, what will remain out of us?" He said, "My followers in comparison to the other nations are like a white hair on a black ox."

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4 hours ago, SIAR14 said:

This is what Allah is going to decide, we can't be certain about things which solely Allah has to decide. We can't even be certain about Muslim whether he is going to heaven or not.

Shirk is NOT negation of belief in one-God?

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@SIAR14 @AliMohammed @eThErEaL @Sindbad05 @iavswn @islam25 @King @AfricanShia @Darth Vader @ali_fatheroforphans  @shadow_of_light

 

There are no good-doers or bad-doers that will not enter Hell. However, the fire will cool off for the believers and it will be safe for them just as it was for Ibrahim, until the fire [or he said: Hell] will cry out from (the excessive) cold. Then God will rescue the pious people and abandon the oppressors in it, in a state of humiliation. Surah Maryam 72” (Bihar al-Anwar Vol 6 P.249; Tafsir al-safi vol. 3, P.289, Tafsir Nur-al-Thaqalayn Vol. 3, p.354)

All the people will enter Hell but leave it according to their deeds. Some come out like a flash of lightening, some come out with the speed of strong wind, others will come running out like a fast running horse. Some come out like a horse that is walking. Some will come out like a person walking at normal speed. (Bihar al-Anwar Vol 6 P.249; Tafsir al-safi vol. 3, P.289, Tafsir Nur-al-Thaqalayn Vol. 3, p.353)

“On the Resurrection Day of Fire will tell the believer: “Pass through, O believer, for your light has extinguished my flames”.” (Tafsir al-safi vol. 3, P.289, Tafsir Nur-al-Thaqalayn Vol. 3, p.354)

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27 minutes ago, Ron_Burgundy said:

@SIAR14 @AliMohammed @eThErEaL @Sindbad05 @iavswn @islam25 @King @AfricanShia @Darth Vader @ali_fatheroforphans  @shadow_of_light

 

There are no good-doers or bad-doers that will not enter Hell. However, the fire will cool off for the believers and it will be safe for them just as it was for Ibrahim, until the fire [or he said: Hell] will cry out from (the excessive) cold. Then God will rescue the pious people and abandon the oppressors in it, in a state of humiliation. Surah Maryam 72” (Bihar al-Anwar Vol 6 P.249; Tafsir al-safi vol. 3, P.289, Tafsir Nur-al-Thaqalayn Vol. 3, p.354)

All the people will enter Hell but leave it according to their deeds. Some come out like a flash of lightening, some come out with the speed of strong wind, others will come running out like a fast running horse. Some come out like a horse that is walking. Some will come out like a person walking at normal speed. (Bihar al-Anwar Vol 6 P.249; Tafsir al-safi vol. 3, P.289, Tafsir Nur-al-Thaqalayn Vol. 3, p.353)

“On the Resurrection Day of Fire will tell the believer: “Pass through, O believer, for your light has extinguished my flames”.” (Tafsir al-safi vol. 3, P.289, Tafsir Nur-al-Thaqalayn Vol. 3, p.354)

The sinner will burn as long his soul become the pure. Then pure soul will be taken to have. Now how long one will burn is how much impurity one have .

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46 minutes ago, Ron_Burgundy said:

@SIAR14 @AliMohammed @eThErEaL @Sindbad05 @iavswn @islam25 @King @AfricanShia @Darth Vader @ali_fatheroforphans  @shadow_of_light

 

There are no good-doers or bad-doers that will not enter Hell. However, the fire will cool off for the believers and it will be safe for them just as it was for Ibrahim, until the fire [or he said: Hell] will cry out from (the excessive) cold. Then God will rescue the pious people and abandon the oppressors in it, in a state of humiliation. Surah Maryam 72” (Bihar al-Anwar Vol 6 P.249; Tafsir al-safi vol. 3, P.289, Tafsir Nur-al-Thaqalayn Vol. 3, p.354)

All the people will enter Hell but leave it according to their deeds. Some come out like a flash of lightening, some come out with the speed of strong wind, others will come running out like a fast running horse. Some come out like a horse that is walking. Some will come out like a person walking at normal speed. (Bihar al-Anwar Vol 6 P.249; Tafsir al-safi vol. 3, P.289, Tafsir Nur-al-Thaqalayn Vol. 3, p.353)

“On the Resurrection Day of Fire will tell the believer: “Pass through, O believer, for your light has extinguished my flames”.” (Tafsir al-safi vol. 3, P.289, Tafsir Nur-al-Thaqalayn Vol. 3, p.354)

The Quran says not a particle of injustice will befall a believer. However the hadiths are also right and the event of that one final test is also in the Quran, that is when on judgement day all mankind will be ordered to approach hell the proud people will question this order and these will be arrested and thrown in first while some will hasten towards it in obedience. Could be a piece of the same puzzle imo.

Anyway I think we are already tasting enough of hell being married and living under the boot heel of capitalism especially in these perpetually credit crunched times with hordes of faithless people surrounding and hunting us in various ways. I bet the Merciful God's hell will be a cake walk in comparison for us who have endured this era, well maybe minus the unrepenting sinners who stray off far enough to gain his contempt. May God help us all.

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On 7/6/2017 at 2:05 AM, AfricanShia said:

True. So little Shias actually "Real Faith". Many cant even pray their obligatory Salat because they dont want to. O'Allah, what has happened to this world. 

I know brother, I know people who drink alcohol and go to night clubs, smoke weed/hash, murder and still call themselves Shias....

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