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On 28/06/2017 at 6:50 PM, 313 Seeker said:

exactly!

people also tend to say: "to understand quran you first need to check hadiths, or scholars first". 

but it is exactly the other way round. First must be quran, and then to understand the hadiths, we must check quran first on every issue. Many if not most controversial issues are shown in various angles in the quran, so as you said there is already enough proof from the quran to make it clear. But to use contradictory hadiths to ignore quran can never be right. But we can use contradictory verse to ignore hadiths. But ironically most hadiths are in tune with quran anyway. So most innovations are not even present in neither quran and hadiths. Such an innovation includes self beating or blood letting, as well as making duas to others than Allah.

Ya Muhammad sawas. Is that Shirk? 

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10 hours ago, MohammadAli1993 said:

Even when you say there is a difference between Allah and the Prophet, you are putting Allah on a scale which again cannot be done! 

Scaling, describing, comparing is one of the important tools of humanity for discovering the truths. The same humanity understands Allah through his signs and manifestations. One of the greatest signs and manifestations is the existence of caliph of Allah on the earth. Caliph of Allah does not invite people towards himself, he invites them towards Allah and he is himself the great sign of Allah in the universe so that people perceive the greatness of Allah through him when they say "Allah is greater". Caliph of Allah is like Kaba, people themselves gather around Kaba for dignifying and worshiping and obeying Allah, Kaba does not force them to do so.

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On 7/10/2017 at 4:04 AM, First Responder said:

That was not even worth a reply but I will, for the viewers to help them evade those shirky ways and so I don't the burden of "he didn't answer so he lost". This is the problem, you solve it (even though it already is solved). 

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

وما تشاءون إلا أن يشاء الله رب العالمين

صدق الله العلي الظيم

How do you connect a QURANIC VERSE that literally says  (وما تشاءون) "what you want/desire (for the lack of better words)  (إلا أن يشاء الله رب العالمين) can only be achieved by the will and permission of Allah a.w.  with what YOU said?

 

[Edit](p.s. mainstream ideologies doesn't hold water.)

Is it really so hard to perceive that Rasulullah is submitted to the will of Allah the same as the twelve imams after him ?  

Edited by maes

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People do try to get close to their Lord with their own ways, in accordance with their limiited abilities in understanding theology. If you think they are wrong I believe it is best for you to communicate with them with wisdom and beautiful preaching. (16:125)

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