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MohammadAli1993

PLEASE HELP WITH 4:163!!!!!

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SalamAlaykum Brothers and sisters. I hope you are all well in shaa Allah. 

Basically I had a question regarding this Ayat. 

It's 4:163

Surah An-Nisa, Verse 163:
إِنَّا أَوْحَيْنَا إِلَيْكَ كَمَا أَوْحَيْنَا إِلَىٰ نُوحٍ وَالنَّبِيِّينَ مِن بَعْدِهِ وَأَوْحَيْنَا إِلَىٰ إِبْرَاهِيمَ وَإِسْمَاعِيلَ وَإِسْحَاقَ وَيَعْقُوبَ وَالْأَسْبَاطِ وَعِيسَىٰ وَأَيُّوبَ وَيُونُسَ وَهَارُونَ وَسُلَيْمَانَ وَآتَيْنَا دَاوُودَ زَبُورًا

Surely We have revealed to you as We revealed to Nuh, and the prophets after him, and We revealed to Ibrahim and Ismail and Ishaq and Yaqoub and the tribes, and Isa and Ayub and Yunus and Haroun and Sulaiman and We gave to Dawood Zabuur
(English - Shakir)

via iQuran

 

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Why are the Prophets in such a order in this Ayat. I mean Noah Abraham Isaac Ishmael and Jacob make sense because of the Genealogy but the rest of those Prophets in the Ayat I have no clue. Has any of you come across this Ayat and maybe asked the same Question. Why being in such a  Order. And for those who will say that it isn't important etc. 

I will reply to say that there is always a reason why Allah reveales the Ayat in a specific way. I wanna know in shaa Allah. 

Cant wait for the replies!!! 

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http://m.almizan.org/tafsir/4-153-169/

Theyre grouped by books that they revealed/ maintained according to this tafsir. Makes sense to me to group them this way for example hazrat Nuh as and the prophets after him were bound by the laws revealed by Nuh until the next stage of revelation came

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7 hours ago, DigitalUmmah said:

http://m.almizan.org/tafsir/4-153-169/

Theyre grouped by books that they revealed/ maintained according to this tafsir. Makes sense to me to group them this way for example hazrat Nuh as and the prophets after him were bound by the laws revealed by Nuh until the next stage of revelation came

I don't understand brother because The Pslams comes before the Injeel and yet it is mentioned after Jesus. 

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7 hours ago, DigitalUmmah said:

http://m.almizan.org/tafsir/4-153-169/

Theyre grouped by books that they revealed/ maintained according to this tafsir. Makes sense to me to group them this way for example hazrat Nuh as and the prophets after him were bound by the laws revealed by Nuh until the next stage of revelation came

My point is why is for example Isa and Ayoob Yunus Haroon Sulaiman and David mentioned at the end. What is the connection there? Why in such a order. Isa came after Dawood. Haroon comes before Isa 

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33 minutes ago, MohammadAli1993 said:

I don't understand brother because The Pslams comes before the Injeel and yet it is mentioned after Jesus. 

 

26 minutes ago, MohammadAli1993 said:

My point is why is for example Isa and Ayoob Yunus Haroon Sulaiman and David mentioned at the end. What is the connection there? Why in such a order. Isa came after Dawood. Haroon comes before Isa 

I dont think its in chronological order bro, I think it is the end of each line. look at the family tree:

family-tree-of-prophets.jpg

(1) Nuh and prophets after him

the prophets between Nuh and Ibrahim, Shalih and Syuib (Peace be upon them all)

(2) Ibrahim and Ismail and Ishaq and Yaqoub and the tribes

Looking at the tree we can see that it makes sense to group these together 

(3) Isa and Ayub and Yunus

these seem to represent the last major prophets at the end of their line. I am assuming that hazrat Ayub was more significant of mention than hazrat Zulqifli

(4) Haroun and Sulaiman

these are famous for being significant prophets who immediately succeeded very significant prophets in the Quran (Musa and Dawood) Peace be upon them all

(5) We gave to Dawood Zabuur

Shout out to hazrat Dawood and his book. 

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, DigitalUmmah said:

 

I dont think its in chronological order bro, I think it is the end of each line. look at the family tree:

family-tree-of-prophets.jpg

(1) Nuh and prophets after him

the prophets between Nuh and Ibrahim, Shalih and Syuib (Peace be upon them all)

(2) Ibrahim and Ismail and Ishaq and Yaqoub and the tribes

Looking at the tree we can see that it makes sense to group these together 

(3) Isa and Ayub and Yunus

these seem to represent the last major prophets at the end of their line. I am assuming that hazrat Ayub was more significant of mention than hazrat Zulqifli

(4) Haroun and Sulaiman

these are famous for being significant prophets who immediately succeeded very significant prophets in the Quran (Musa and Dawood) Peace be upon them all

(5) We gave to Dawood Zabuur

Shout out to hazrat Dawood and his book. 

 

 

 

Sorry brother but it still doesn't make sense. It was very nice of you to show the Family tree.  Ayub and Yunus do not represent Major Prophets but Definitely Isa a.s does. Still not sure about why Isa Is mentioned in such a order. I'm keeping this topic going so we get a brother or a sister who can crack the code 

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On 5/9/2017 at 5:14 AM, MohammadAli1993 said:

SalamAlaykum Brothers and sisters. I hope you are all well in shaa Allah. 

Basically I had a question regarding this Ayat. 

It's 4:163

Surah An-Nisa, Verse 163:
إِنَّا أَوْحَيْنَا إِلَيْكَ كَمَا أَوْحَيْنَا إِلَىٰ نُوحٍ وَالنَّبِيِّينَ مِن بَعْدِهِ وَأَوْحَيْنَا إِلَىٰ إِبْرَاهِيمَ وَإِسْمَاعِيلَ وَإِسْحَاقَ وَيَعْقُوبَ وَالْأَسْبَاطِ وَعِيسَىٰ وَأَيُّوبَ وَيُونُسَ وَهَارُونَ وَسُلَيْمَانَ وَآتَيْنَا دَاوُودَ زَبُورًا

Surely We have revealed to you as We revealed to Nuh, and the prophets after him, and We revealed to Ibrahim and Ismail and Ishaq and Yaqoub and the tribes, and Isa and Ayub and Yunus and Haroun and Sulaiman and We gave to Dawood Zabuur
(English - Shakir)

via iQuran

--------____________======___________

Why are the Prophets in such a order in this Ayat. I mean Noah Abraham Isaac Ishmael and Jacob make sense because of the Genealogy but the rest of those Prophets in the Ayat I have no clue. Has any of you come across this Ayat and maybe asked the same Question. Why being in such a  Order. And for those who will say that it isn't important etc. 

I will reply to say that there is always a reason why Allah reveales the Ayat in a specific way. I wanna know in shaa Allah. 

Cant wait for the replies!!! 

I have tried to get the meaning of this verse but in a different manner. the following link provides  this discussion as a part of the thread:.

I think it may be helpful for you.

wasalam

 

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On 10/05/2017 at 5:44 PM, skyweb1987 said:

I have tried to get the meaning of this verse but in a different manner. the following link provides  this discussion as a part of the thread:.

I think it may be helpful for you.

wasalam

 

Brother I'm trying to find out what the reason is behind the order of the Prophets in this Ayat. I'm very curious 

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On 10/05/2017 at 5:44 PM, skyweb1987 said:

I have tried to get the meaning of this verse but in a different manner. the following link provides  this discussion as a part of the thread:.

I think it may be helpful for you.

wasalam

 

But I deeply appreciate the link you sent me. May Allah bless you for it 

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6 hours ago, MohammadAli1993 said:

But I deeply appreciate the link you sent me. May Allah bless you for it 

Thanks for your comments.

If you can find and sum up any further and  you can  share in this thread it will be appreciated.

wasalam

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