Sunni Vs. Shia

[YoungMuslimah]

I am a proud Shia, but I've come across a bump. Almost all the muslims I know are Sunni and I know that Shiaism is correct.

I'm just not sure why anymore. 

Help please? I'm really young, not going to state my age, but under 15. 

[Sindbad05]

51 minutes ago, YoungMuslimah said:

I'm just not sure why anymore. 

Why anymore what ? 

[Sindbad05]

34 minutes ago, YoungMuslimah said:

I am a proud Shia, but I've come across a bump. Almost all the muslims I know are Sunni and I know that Shiaism is correct.

I'm just not sure why anymore. 

Help please? I'm really young, not going to state my age, but under 15. 

Please explain your question sister

[guest051217]

5 hours ago, YoungMuslimah said:

I am a proud Shia, but I've come across a bump. Almost all the muslims I know are Sunni and I know that Shiaism is correct.

I'm just not sure why anymore. 

Help please? I'm really young, not going to state my age, but under 15. 

Al kafi = Shia.

Bukhari = Not shia.

Contention one: Can we see Allah swt, comprehend him or limit him in our knowledge?

Bukhari

9.530:

The Prophet said, "You will definitely see your Lord with your own eyes."

9.531:

Allah’s Apostle came out to us on the night of the full moon and said, "You will see your Lord on the Day of Resurrection as you see this (full moon) and you will have no difficulty in seeing Him."

Al Kafi

H 261, Ch. 9, h 10- Graded SAHIH by Alama Majlisi

"I asked Imam abul Hassan al-Rida (a.s.), about Allah if He can be described (defined in words). The Imam (a.s.) said, "Have you not read the Quran?" I replied, "Yes, I do read the Quran." He then said, "Have you not read the words of Allah, the Most High, "No mortal eyes can see Him, but He can see all eyes. He is All-kind and All-aware." (6:103) I replied, "Yes, I have read them." The Imam (a.s.) said, "Do they know the meaning of the eyes?" I replied, "Yes, they do." The Imam (a.s.) said, "What is it?" I replied, " It means seeing with the eyes." Then the Imam said, the Awham(mentioned above) of the heart is far greater comprehensive in knowledge than eye-witnessing. It is not able to comprehend Him but He comprehends all things.

(One paragraph taken from the hadith) H 253, Ch. 9, h 2  Graded SAHIH by Alama Majlisi

The Imam said, "How can a person who brought such messages to all creatures and told them

that he has brought such messages from Allah and called them to Allah by His commands and said, "The eyes can not comprehend Him." (6:103) "They can not limit Him through their knowledge." (20:110) "There is nothing similar to Him." (42:11), then he would say, "I saw Him with my own eyes? I did limit Him in my knowledge and that He is similar to a man? Should you not be ashamed of yourselves? Even the atheist have not said that the Prophet first brought one thing from Allah and then announced from Him other things contrary to the first."

Contention two- Does Allah change states, or undergo change?

Bukhari:

"...What keeps you here when all the people have gone?' They will say, 'We parted with them (in the world) when we were in greater need of them than we are today, we heard the call of one proclaiming, 'Let every nation follow what they used to worship,' and now we are waiting for our Lord.' Then the Almighty will come to them in a shape other than the one which they saw the first time, and He will say, 'I am your Lord,' and they will say, 'You are not our Lord.' And none will speak: to Him then but the Prophets, and then it will be said to them, 'Do you know any sign by which you can recognize Him?' They will say. 'The Shin,' and so Allah will then uncover His Shin whereupon every believer will prostrate before Him and there will remain those who used to prostrate before Him just for showing off and for gaining good reputation..."

Al Kafi

H 313, Ch. 16, h 4 – Graded Sahih by Alama Majlisi

The Imam said, "There is nothing in the universe, but that is subject to annihilation, alteration, change, decay, transition from one color to another, from one shape to another and from one quality to another. They increase, decrease and change from decrease to increase, except He, Who is the Lord of the worlds. He alone is eternal and in one state. He is the first, before every thing and the last eternally. His attributes and names do not change as they do in the case of others. A man at one time is dust, at other time flesh and blood, then turns into decaying bones and finally becomes dust. A piece of date  at one time is raw, at another time ripe, mature and then it dries up. With every change, the names and attributes also change. Allah, the Majestic, the Glorious is different from all such things."

Contention three: Does Allah swt have a form?

Bukhari:

"...What keeps you here when all the people have gone?' They will say, 'We parted with them (in the world) when we were in greater need of them than we are today, we heard the call of one proclaiming, 'Let every nation follow what they used to worship,' and now we are waiting for our Lord.' Then the Almighty will come to them in a shape other than the one which they saw the first time, and He will say, 'I am your Lord,' and they will say, 'You are not our Lord.' And none will speak: to Him then but the Prophets, and then it will be said to them, 'Do you know any sign by which you can recognize Him?' They will say. 'The Shin,' and so Allah will then uncover His Shin whereupon every believer will prostrate before Him and there will remain those who used to prostrate before Him just for showing off and for gaining good reputation..."

Al Kafi:

Graded Muwathaq
He said: I said to Abu `Abdillah عليه السلام: I heard Hisham b. al-Hakam narrate from you that Allah has a body, supported by light, His recognition is necessary and He bestows this [knowledge] upon whom He wills from the creation. So he عليه السلام said: Glorified be He, whom no one knows how He is except Himself. There is nothing like unto Him, and He is the Hearing, the Seeing. He cannot be limited, nor can He be felt, nor can He be moved, nor can He be comprehended [by sight, nor by] the senses, nor can He be contained in anything, nor does He have a body, nor does He have a form, nor a figure, nor a confine. (al-Kafi, Volume 1, hadith 278)
 

Contention : Does Allah swt move position?

Bukhari:

1145( Abu Hurairah)

“The Lord (Allah swt) descends every night to the lowest heaven when one-third of the night remains and says: ‘Who will call upon Me, that I may answer Him? Who will ask of Me, that I may give him? Who will seek My forgiveness, that I may forgive him?’”

Man Lā Yaḥḍuruh al-Faqīh, Graded sahih by alama majlisi

 ‘O son of the Messenger of Allāh, what do you say about the ḥadīth which the people narrate from the Messenger of Allāh, that he said: ‘Allāh descends in every night of Friday (i.e. Thursday night) to the earth’s heavens’’.

He said: ‘May Allāh curse (la`na) those who distort the words from its place, by Allāh, the Messenger of Allāh has not said that! Verily, he said: ‘Allāh) sends down an angel to the earth’s heavens in the last third of every night, and the first part of the night of Friday (i.e. Thursday night). And He commands him to call, ‘Are there any (who) asks, so that I can grant him?’; ‘Are there any repenters that I should forgive him?’;..."

I conclude with the following excerpt of a hadith:

He said: A man came to Abu’l Hasan ar-Rida عليه السلام from beyond the Balkh river and said: I will ask you a question, if your answer to me is the same as that which is with me [i will accept your cause]. So Abu’l Hasan عليه السلام said: Ask whatever you wish. So he said: Inform me about your Lord, when did He come into being? And how is His state? And upon what thing does He rely? So Abu’l Hasan عليه السلام said: Allah تبارك وتعالى was there before there was a “there”, and He was being before there was a “how”, and His reliance is upon His power. So the man rose to him and kissed his head, and said: I bear witness that there is no god except Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and that `Ali is the deputy of the Messenger of Allah صلى الله عليه وآله and the succeeding upholder of what the Messenger of Allah صلى الله عليه وآله established, and that you are the righteous Imams and the successors after them. (al-Kafi, Volume 1, hadith 233) Graded SAHIH by Alama Majlisi

[Hassan-]

You're not sure of what?

[YoungMuslimah]

4 hours ago, Sindbad05 said:

Why anymore what ? 

I'm not sure why I am Shia.

[YoungMuslimah]

3 hours ago, QuranandAhlulbayt said:

Al kafi = Shia.

Bukhari = Not shia.

Contention one: Can we see Allah swt, comprehend him or limit him in our knowledge?

Contention two- Does Allah change states, or undergo change?

Contention three: Does Allah swt have a form?

Contention : Does Allah swt move position?

I conclude with the following excerpt of a hadith:

Thank you. Gazakallah Kahir

[Hassan-]

2 minutes ago, YoungMuslimah said:

I mean that I am shia, but I'm having trouble understanding why I think I should be shia. 

Why are you having trouble understanding why you think you should be shia? What brings you to that thought? Do you mean shia specifically or Islam in general?

[Engineer73]

49 minutes ago, YoungMuslimah said:

I'm not sure why I am Shia.

You means you're not sure why you love Imam Ali (a.s), Imam Hassan (a.s), Imam Hussain (a.s) and rest of Imams from his progeny?

[Danish-Ali]

1.You are proud to be a shia. 

The things that makes you proud to be a shia are the reasons that you should be a shia 

2. You know Shia school is correct. 

When one knows something is correct then he/she should be an enthusiastic follower of such thing, remain firmly on it and guide others. 

 

Ask yourself a question what are my responsibilities as a shia once you get the answer then you never ever ask again why you should be a shia??? 

 

[Sindbad05]

3 hours ago, YoungMuslimah said:

I'm not sure why I am Shia.

I will tell you why.

There are people born either in belief holding families or in non-believing families. 

Both have trials ahead for them. The believing child will come across questions from the side of unbelief.

Unbelieving child will get questions from belief.  

Both make efforts. If believing child gets disappointed and do not ask Imams and scholars for answers, being born into believing family does not help him.

If unbelieving child hears proofs from believing side and rules them out he also gets perverted forever and loses opportunities for his wellbeing.

If the believing child and unbelieving child listens to belief side, the first one thanks God for being born into good family and second one for being rescued from bad family and forgiveness of all sins.

[Sindbad05]

3 hours ago, YoungMuslimah said:

I'm not sure why I am Shia.

I will tell you why.

There are people born either in belief holding families or in non-believing families. 

Both have trials ahead for them. The believing child will come across questions from the side of unbelief.

Unbelieving child will get questions from belief.  

Both make efforts. If believing child gets disappointed and do not ask Imams and scholars for answers, being born into believing family does not help him.

If unbelieving child hears proofs from believing side and rules them out he also gets perverted forever and loses opportunities for his wellbeing.

If the believing child and unbelieving child listens to belief side, the first one thanks God for being born into good family and second one for being rescued from bad family and forgiveness of all sins.

[baqar]

5 hours ago, YoungMuslimah said:

I'm not sure why I am Shia.

You must only follow what you are sure of. 

No point in trying to follow what you are not sure of.