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Another Prophecy about Syrian War Fulfilled

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2 minutes ago, Mansur Bakhtiari said:

No I mean would I be stopped? Would I be able to return to Canada, or even Iran? And I'm wondering how to get in. The only way I think is a dangerous highway from Lebanon.

You're a Canadian citizen right? They can't stop you from entering the country can they? I am quite positive there must be Irani pilgrims going to Syria, in the suicide bombing attack last week, there were Iraqi pilgrims who died. As far as getting in, Damascus airport is still open I think, they just have to take very round-about routes to get there because plenty of zones are not safe to fly over I imagine.

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14 minutes ago, Mohamed1993 said:

You're a Canadian citizen right? They can't stop you from entering the country can they? I am quite positive there must be Irani pilgrims going to Syria, in the suicide bombing attack last week, there were Iraqi pilgrims who died. As far as getting in, Damascus airport is still open I think, they just have to take very round-about routes to get there because plenty of zones are not safe to fly over I imagine.

Canadian government can stop someone over security concerns. They might think I am going to help Daesh. I could enter from Iran if I wanted to. I still have to wait though because it's probably for the best that I get an education before I go and risk my life.

Die without a degree in a Persian family and there may be some grave vandalism....

 

Wait... The best way for me would be to fly to Iran, Then to Najaf, and from there fly to Damascus. Then I could go to Sayyeda Zainab. That is the safest way right now.

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@DigitalUmmah 

This was one such opposition group, though they supported Arab League involvement, which was problematic, and they also endorsed the FSA in late 2012, but my guess is they probably have/had moderate elements. Initially they never even called for Assad to go, they just wanted some reforms to the system that they had. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coordination_Committee_for_Democratic_Change. I was watching a documentary of an economics professor from this group who was placed in solitary confinement because of his criticism of Syria's economic policies. Let's not kid ourselves, Assad made a lot of blunders in the beginning even in the face of NATO's interference, he could've handled the protestors with less brutality, he overreacted greatly, he could've made reforms more quickly and had the imperialists not had an agenda in using Syria as a chessboard to expand their own hegemony and exploit resources cheaply, then perhaps Syria could've seen some positive change and these voices we've barely heard anything about would've had more of a say. The NATO powers though will not allow anyone that isn't a Zionist/Wahhabi puppet, and Assad has to fight these people obviously, so the people who don't like either side don't really have much of a voice, they get no coverage. I believe, there are some supporters of the government only so far as this war goes, who are not so much fans of Assad, but they support him against interventionists, however they would like change if Syria were to become peaceful again. I think these people realistically are the best chance for Syria to be stable and peaceful again, the question is how feasible is it that they will be able to come into power? Not likely.

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5 hours ago, DigitalUmmah said:

I am at the point now, where I am so fed up and cynical of the disaster which is syria, I am willing to be happy for whatever forces are left in Syria so long as zainabia and other holy sites are kept safe and secure and the road opens once more for those who wish to go to ziarat. 

its easy to forget that flights to syria used to be so cheap that our community used to fly to zainabia on a whim any time we wanted to, if there were any problems in our lives and we needed a waseela. 

 

I'm sorry but this is the worst most terrible idea anybody has ever had.

 

It doesn't matter if a country is ruined, its people are slaughtered in droves and it become ruled by a puppet government as long as ziyarah is easy for us? 

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Just now, baradar_jackson said:

 

I'm sorry but this is the worst most terrible idea anybody has ever had.

It doesn't matter if a country is ruined, its people are slaughtered in droves and it become ruled by a puppet government as long as ziyarah is easy for us? 

that's not actually what I said though, is it? 

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Just now, Mansur Bakhtiari said:

You said: whatever forces as long a the shrine is safe.

Then you started talking about how easy it used to be to take flights to zainabiya

 

yeah you got me. I'm actually fine with every single syrian dying in the worst way possible, so long as I go to ziarat. 

well done guys, you exposed me. 

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4 hours ago, Mansur Bakhtiari said:

No I mean would I be stopped? Would I be able to return to Canada, or even Iran? And I'm wondering how to get in. The only way I think is a dangerous highway from Lebanon.

My cousin went to the shrine 2 years ago through Lebanon. The pathway from Lebanon to the shrine is 100% safe and well protected by Hezbollah.

 

 

If ISIS and al nusra is defeated in Syria, than there is absolutely no chance for USA to even be allowed to stay on Syrian territory as Assad, Hezbollah, Russian and Iranian forces will have complete control of the land. When it comes to ground warfare, USA will get annihilated by Hezbollah in days the same how Israel got annihilated in 2006.

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6 minutes ago, DigitalUmmah said:

yeah you got me. I'm actually fine with every single syrian dying in the worst way possible, so long as I go to ziarat. 

well done guys, you exposed me. 

My point is, what is the point of Ziyaarat if we are supporting tyrants? It's like buying a house near Karbala, from the government of Saddam Hussein. Assad was not perfect, but he was not evil either.

Meanwhile, let us claim we are clearing our sins by going to Hajj, but obliviously we are financially supporting a state that kills us Muslims in all corners of the world!

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2 minutes ago, Hassan- said:

My cousin went to the shrine 2 years ago through Lebanon. The pathway from Lebanon to the shrine is 100% safe and well protected by Hezbollah.

 

 

If ISIS and al nusra is defeated in Syria, than there is absolutely no chance for USA to even be allowed to stay on Syrian territory as Assad, Hezbollah, Russian and Iranian forces will have complete control of the land. When it comes to ground warfare, USA will get annihilated by Hezbollah in days the same how Israel got annihilated in 2006.

No I mean if I wanted to stay there and help the Muslims who are residing around the shrine. Would I be allowed to safely return to Canada, depending on the outcome. 

There are 5 possibilities

 

We win but I die

We win and I am still alive meaning I go back to Canada

We lose so I piss my pants and run back to the Great White North

We lose and I die

It turns out its the end times so I crawl my way to Khurasan

 

:grin:In case if I decide to go and numer 2 or 3 occur, will I still be welcome in Canada

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1 minute ago, Mansur Bakhtiari said:

No I mean if I wanted to stay there and help the Muslims who are residing around the shrine. Would I be allowed to safely return to Canada, depending on the outcome. 

There are 5 possibilities

 

We win but I die

We win and I am still alive meaning I go back to Canada

We lose so I piss my pants and run back to the Great White North

We lose and I die

It turns out its the end times so I crawl my way to Khurasan

 

:grin:In case if I decide to go and numer 2 or 3 occur, will I still be welcome in Canada

Yes, I doubt they'll know about what you did.

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9 minutes ago, Mansur Bakhtiari said:

My point is, what is the point of Ziyaarat if we are supporting tyrants? It's like buying a house near Karbala, from the government of Saddam Hussein. Assad was not perfect, but he was not evil either.

Meanwhile, let us claim we are clearing our sins by going to Hajj, but obliviously we are financially supporting a state that kills us Muslims in all corners of the world!

I think something was lost in translation. 

its not likely that assad can remain in power, ride out this conflict, and bring complete stability back to syria. if he does? thats probably the best outcome for this entire catastrophe. 

however, more realistically, we have a bunch of options to fill the vacuum he would leave if he is ousted, and not one of them is good for shia, apart from maybe Iran absorbing syria lol (dont worry NSA, its a joke)

so if foreign troops move in, at least the country could potentially become safe enough for us to return to ziarat. as opposed to the "moderate rebels" taking over. 

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18 minutes ago, DigitalUmmah said:

so if foreign troops move in, at least the country could potentially become safe enough for us to return to ziarat. as opposed to the "moderate rebels" taking over. 

Foreign troops support the moderate rebels taking over though? And foreign troops presence will be temporary, they will leave once they put their puppet in power.

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24 minutes ago, DigitalUmmah said:

I think something was lost in translation. 

its not likely that assad can remain in power, ride out this conflict, and bring complete stability back to syria. if he does? thats probably the best outcome for this entire catastrophe. 

however, more realistically, we have a bunch of options to fill the vacuum he would leave if he is ousted, and not one of them is good for shia, apart from maybe Iran absorbing syria lol (dont worry NSA, its a joke)

so if foreign troops move in, at least the country could potentially become safe enough for us to return to ziarat. as opposed to the "moderate rebels" taking over. 

Or perhaps Assad can make the country less of a hellhole, then instate some democratic reforms. When he does, it is possible that once they are fully in place he dies, and there is an election for the next President. Or during his post-war term there is an election and he is out of office. Either way the Assad family will not stay in power.

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8 hours ago, DigitalUmmah said:

I am at the point now, where I am so fed up and cynical of the disaster which is syria, I am willing to be happy for whatever forces are left in Syria so long as zainabia and other holy sites are kept safe and secure and the road opens once more for those who wish to go to ziarat. 

its easy to forget that flights to syria used to be so cheap that our community used to fly to zainabia on a whim any time we wanted to, if there were any problems in our lives and we needed a waseela. 

This is shockingly silly DU. I wonder what makes you think American occupation is an alternative? Is Afghanistan "fixed" or has it become a hell hole a murderous poppy plantation? What about Iraq? You really think they are trying to fix the world, sponsoring ISIS and Al-CIA-duh and then dumping depleted uranium all over the world while mass murdering innocent unarmed civilians to make things bleeping better for anyone?

I know desis who live for a while in the West get affected by the variety of stockholm syndrome, but why you bro. Sad.

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