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YASIR AL HABIB: Baqir Majlisi of today

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Yasir Habib, whom majority of twelvers do not like and acknowledge, is no different than Allama Baqir Majlisi of past.

Below are some proofs out of hundred available from books of Baqir Majlisi, which are no different than what Yasir Habib say in his lectures and in public gatherings.

 

It has been narrated in Taqrib al Muarif from the freed slave of Ali bin Hussain (i.e Imam Zain ul Abideen) that he asked the Imam, I have the right over you, inform me about Abu Bakr and Umar. Imam said : Both of them are unbelievers, and whoever loves them is also unbeliever [meaning all sunnis]. Haqqul Yaqin, p. 522

 

Ayyashi has narrated from Imam Jafar through a reliable sanad that he said : May Allah’s curse be upon Aisha and Hafzah and their fathers … They killed the Messenger of Allah with poison. Hayat ul Quloob Vol. 2, p. 700

 

Whoever believes that Uthman was killed innocently, his sins on the day of judgement will be more than those who worshipped the calf. Hayat ul Quloob, Vol. 1, p. 20

 

Whatever Abu Bakr did was against the verses of Quran, whoever acts against Quran is kafir, fasiq oppressor. Hayat ul Quloob, Vol. 1, p. 157

 

The clear proof of the disbelief of Uthman is that Ali considered his killing mubah, and didn’t consider anything wrong in it. Haqqul Yaqin, p. 270

 

‘We believe that we should seek disassociation from four idols namely, Abu Bakr, Omar, Uthman and Mu’awiyah; from four women namely, Ayesha, Hafsa, Hind and Ummul Hakam, along with all their associates and followers. ‘These are the worst creation of Allah. It is not possible to believe in Allah, His Messenger and the Imams without disassociating oneself from their enemies. Haqqul Yaqeen: 2:519

 

One should say after each prayer: O Allah! Curse Abu Bakr, Omar, Uthman, Mu’awiyah, Ayesha, Hafsa, Hind and Ummul Hakam. Aynul Hayat: 599

 

Baqir Majlisi's books Haqqul Yaqin, Ain ul Hayat, Jilal al Uyun, bihar ul anwar are full of such narrations (which are declared authentic by him) and his personal opinions like above.

 

 

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Same thing is also confirmed by a popular shia website wilayat.net HERE

 

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NARRATION 20:-

from
Bihaar al-Anwaar, by Al-Majlisi vol. 69 pg. 137-8.



interestingly the name of chapter is

باب 101 : كفر المخالفين والنصاب ومايناسب ذلك

hadeeth says


25 تقريب المعارف لابي الصلاح الحلبي : عن أبي علي الخراساني عن مولى لعلي بن الحسن عليه السلام قال : كنت معه عليه السلام في بعض خلواته فقلت : إن لي عليك حقا ألا تخبرني عن هذين الرجلين : عن أبي بكر وعمر ؟


فقال : كافران كافر من أحبهما .
وعن أبي حمزة الثمالي أنه سئل علي بن الحسين عليهما السلام عنهما فقال : كافران كافر من تولاهما

 

narrator says that : ‘I was with Ali during his free time(when he was alone) and I said to him: ‘Indeed I have a right to know about Abu Bakr and Umar. He said: ‘They are Kaafir; whoever loves them is Kaafir as well.’

On the authority of�
Abu Hamzah ath-Thumali that he asked Ali b. al-Husain about Abu Bakr and Umar and he said: ‘They are Kaafir; whoever stands with them is Kaafir as well.’

 

SUMMARY OF THESE AHADEETH:-

from bihar-ul-anwar, vol 8, page 366

قال الصادق عليه السلام : من شك في كفر أعدائنا والظالمين لنا فهو كافر
whosoever doubts kufr of our enemies and those who did zulm to us, he is himself kafir.

 

So, the belief of Yasir Habib, Baqir Majlisi and Wilayat.net is same i.e Abu Bakr a.s and Umar a.s both were unbelievers (Kafir) and also those who love them and support them, in other words all followers of ahlul sunnah are unbelievers.

Then, how Baqir Majlisi and wilayat.net are different than Yasir Habib.

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Yasir al habib, the one that the enemies of Allah give free reign on satellite to spread shia-sunni strife is being compare to Allama Baqir Majlisi. Truly, do people not have aql? 

In contrast, Presstv gets banned in UK. While the shia leadership calls for shia-sunni unity, we have zionist backed two bit scholars trying to provoke conflict as part of the imperialist divide and conquer strategy modelled after the catholic/protestant 30 years war.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-new-thirty-years-war-in-the-middle-east-a-western-policy-of-chaos/5469351

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Fahad  Sani has collected all from Majlisis against those caliphs and Aisha  where they are mentioned as kafir. 

So we consider Fahad as supporter of Yasser habib ie majlisis of today because he is spreading these narrations at SC?

Do we find any difference between Yasser Habib and Fahad Sani?

No certainly not both are doing the same.

 

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2 hours ago, DigitalUmmah said:

soooooo yasser habibs views are found in classic shia books, and that makes him the allama majlisi of the modern age?

#SunniLogic, ladies and gentlemen

This is not merely on the basis of narrations present in books of majlisi but mostly on his acceptance of such narrations, personal comments and opinions which are everywhere in his books like Haq ul Yaqin, Jilal Ul Uyun, Ain ul Hayat etc.

And books of majlisi are not classic shia books. 

Check yourself from his books.

http://shiamultimedia.com/urdubooks2.html

http://www.ziyaraat.net/findbook.asp?Tema=All&srchwhat=All&orderby=titulo&idioma=All&submit=Display+Books&Escritor=Allama Syed Muhammad Baqar Majlisi

 

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"Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind" - Albert Einstein

"Religion without science is blind; science without religion is lame" - ShiaMan14

From here on out, refer to me as Einstein SCers.

 

Furthermore, Hz Aisha stated it is okay for adults males to breastfeed. The Sunnni Mullas of today say it is okay for adult males to breastfeed. Therefore Sunni mullas are the Aisha of today.

 

I love this game.

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Lanan according to Mawlana Jabir Ali Ansari

alaikum salam lanat is allowded in islam may be we can say its very nessesry thing that shia shuld do it becouse if we will not do the lanat upon ememies of deen may be it will be fargotten after the sometime and the next geration will lost there islamic beliefs so wehave to do lanat on the enemeis of islam yes if there are some sunni people are present here that is not alloweded to lanat becouse it will be fitna 

 

Short: The Shia believe in lanat. We do NOT believe in spray painting العن الكبيرا علي عمر و عبي بكر on a Sunni mosque.

 

Yasser Habib also has no recognized Islamic education meaning he doesn't even have the right to call himself Sheikh.

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Fahad,

We believe that such people rebelled against Gods command and corrupted society, this lead to massive chaos. You wont find any fans of Abu Bakr and Umar here.

The issue we have with Mr Habib is that he is not putting our message forward in the correct tone, and some of what he says is just odd.

 

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3 hours ago, Darth Vader said:

Jalal Ud Din Suyuti, Ahmad bin Hambal, Tabari, Ismail Bukhari, 

Let's add to that list.

Sheikh Mansour Leghaei, Maulana Jabir Ali Ansari, Ibn Arabi (who even had said in Fusus al Hikam that Khilafat is only for Insanul Kamil), 

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Its not about merely narrations but their acceptance by Majlisi and his personal comments and conclusions out of such narrations.

Here is the bottom line. from http://wilayat.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1983:concept-of-ahlubait-regarding-sheikhain&catid=155&lang=en&Itemid=115

SUMMARY OF THESE AHADEETH:-

from bihar-ul-anwar, vol 8, page 366

قال الصادق عليه السلام : من شك في كفر أعدائنا والظالمين لنا فهو كافر
whosoever doubts kufr of our enemies and those who did zulm to us, he is himself kafir.

 

Is this not takfir of ahlul sunnah followers. And yet twelver shia often claim we are not takfiri. Or I consider only wilayat.net takfiri.

While Imam Ali a.s never did takfir of those who opposed him. Big contradiction.

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10 hours ago, Fahad Sani said:

Its not about merely narrations but their acceptance by Majlisi and his personal comments and conclusions out of such narrations.

Here is the bottom line. from http://wilayat.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1983:concept-of-ahlubait-regarding-sheikhain&catid=155&lang=en&Itemid=115

SUMMARY OF THESE AHADEETH:-

from bihar-ul-anwar, vol 8, page 366

قال الصادق عليه السلام : من شك في كفر أعدائنا والظالمين لنا فهو كافر
whosoever doubts kufr of our enemies and those who did zulm to us, he is himself kafir.

 

Is this not takfir of ahlul sunnah followers. And yet twelver shia often claim we are not takfiri. Or I consider only wilayat.net takfiri.

While Imam Ali a.s never did takfir of those who opposed him. Big contradiction.

The hadith from al-kafi are mentioned:

NARRATION 1:-

الكافي - الشيخ الكليني ج 3 ص 342 : 
10 - محمد بن يحيى ، عن محمد بن الحسين ، عن محمد بن إسماعيل بن بزيع ، عن الخيبري ، عن الحسين بن ثوير ، وأبي سلمة السراج قالا : سمعنا أبا عبد الله عليه السلام و هو يلعن في دبر كل مكتوبة أربعة من الرجال وأربعا من النساء فلان وفلان وفلان ومعاوية ويسميهم وفلانة وفلانة وهند وام الحكم أخت معاوية . 


تهذيب الأحكام - الشيخ الطوسي ج 2 ص 321 : 
169 - محمد بن يحيى عن محمد بن الحسين عن محمد بن اسماعيل ابن بزيع عن الحسين بن ثوير وأبي سلمة السراج قالا : سمعنا أبا عبد الله عليه السلام وهو يلعن في دبر كل مكتوبة أربعة من الرجال وأربعا من النساء التيمي والعدوي وفعلان ومعاوية ويسميهم وفلانة وفلانة وهند وام الحكم اخت معاوية . 
أقول : أوردته كشاهد لبيان من هم فلان وفلان
 

translation:- imam abu abduallah was heard saying curse be on four men and four women; fulan, fulan, fulan and mawia; and fulana, fulana, hind and umm-ul-hakm sister of mawia

The above hadith state that curse is sent to enemies of the ahl albayt. The hadith from Bihar ul anwar seems unauthentic.

wasalam

 

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On 3/1/2017 at 6:28 PM, Fahad Sani said:

Yasir Habib, whom majority of twelvers do not like and acknowledge, is no different than Allama Baqir Majlisi of past.

Do not compare Yasser al Habib with Allama Majlisi, Allama Majlisi was a true man and great scholar. As regards the narration of Imam Ali a.s is considered which speaks about two Caliphs, it is according to Quran which says: "Those who disobey Allah and His Prophet are unbelievers". Now, tell me where this narration of Imam Ali a.s is against Quran ? 

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