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Salam,

What was the fate of Talib ibn Abi Talib after he refused to participate in the Battle of Badr and in what state (belief/unbelief) did he die?

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On 2/28/2017 at 12:45 AM, Faruk said:

Salam,

What was the fate of Talib ibn Abi Talib after he refused to participate in the Battle of Badr and in what state (belief/unbelief) did he die?

Salamun alaykum wr wb.

Talib b. Abi Talib

He is the eldest offspring of Abu Talib, died in second year after Hijra/623-4, whose life is not exactly known to us. The only information mentioned in rijal and ansab and history references about him proves his participation in the Battle of Badr. It is said that polytheists of Mecca made him take part in the war, though he was reluctant. He vanished after Quraysh had been defeated, since neither he was among the murdered or captive nor did he return to Mecca.[3] Some have stated that he gave up participating in the war and came back to Mecca with his companions.[4] Others have narrated that he set out for Yemen or Syria and passed away while traveling. It is also said that he got drowned in the sea.[5] He had no offspring.[6]

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http://en.wikishia.net/view/Al_Abi_Talib

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13 hours ago, Faruk said:

Salam,

What was the fate of Talib ibn Abi Talib after he refused to participate in the Battle of Badr and in what state (belief/unbelief) did he die?

There is also a narration in Al-Kafi referring to his conversion to Islam:

عَنْ أَبِي عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ع قَالَ لَمَّا خَرَجَتْ قُرَيْشٌ إِلَى بَدْرٍ وَ أَخْرَجُوا بَنِي عَبْدِ الْمُطَّلِبِ مَعَهُمْ خَرَجَ طَالِبُ بْنُ أَبِي طَالِبٍ فَنَزَلَ رُجَّازُهُمْ وَ هُمْ يَرْتَجِزُونَ وَ نَزَلَ طَالِبُ بْنُ أَبِي طَالِبٍ يَرْتَجِزُ وَ يَقُولُ

         يَا رَبِّ إِمَّا يَغْزُوُنَّ بِطَالِبٍ            فِي مِقْنَبٍ مِنْ هَذِهِ الْمَقَانِبِ‏
            فِي مِقْنَبِ الْمُغَالِبِ الْمُحَارِبِ            بِجَعْلِهِ الْمَسْلُوبَ غَيْرَ السَّالِبِ‏
            وَ جَعْلِهِ الْمَغْلُوبَ غَيْرَ الْغَالِبِ‏


فَقَالَ قُرَيْشٌ إِنَّ هَذَا لَيَغْلِبُنَا فَرَدُّوهُ وَ فِي رِوَايَةٍ أُخْرَى عَنْ أَبِي عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ع أَنَّهُ كَانَ أَسْلَمَ

    الكافي ج : 8 ص : 375

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11 hours ago, amirhosein_88 said:

There is also a narration in Al-Kafi referring to his conversion to Islam:

عَنْ أَبِي عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ع قَالَ لَمَّا خَرَجَتْ قُرَيْشٌ إِلَى بَدْرٍ وَ أَخْرَجُوا بَنِي عَبْدِ الْمُطَّلِبِ مَعَهُمْ خَرَجَ طَالِبُ بْنُ أَبِي طَالِبٍ فَنَزَلَ رُجَّازُهُمْ وَ هُمْ يَرْتَجِزُونَ وَ نَزَلَ طَالِبُ بْنُ أَبِي طَالِبٍ يَرْتَجِزُ وَ يَقُولُ

         يَا رَبِّ إِمَّا يَغْزُوُنَّ بِطَالِبٍ            فِي مِقْنَبٍ مِنْ هَذِهِ الْمَقَانِبِ‏
            فِي مِقْنَبِ الْمُغَالِبِ الْمُحَارِبِ            بِجَعْلِهِ الْمَسْلُوبَ غَيْرَ السَّالِبِ‏
            وَ جَعْلِهِ الْمَغْلُوبَ غَيْرَ الْغَالِبِ‏


فَقَالَ قُرَيْشٌ إِنَّ هَذَا لَيَغْلِبُنَا فَرَدُّوهُ وَ فِي رِوَايَةٍ أُخْرَى عَنْ أَبِي عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ع أَنَّهُ كَانَ أَسْلَمَ

    الكافي ج : 8 ص : 375

Salam bro',

Are you capable to make a free translation?

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11 hours ago, Faruk said:

Salam bro',

Are you capable to make a free translation?

Salamun alaykym.

According to the first narration, the polytheists of Mecca forced some of the sons of Abd al-Muttalib including Talib ibn Abi Talib to join their army in the battle of Badr. However, when Talib recited some war poems (Rajaz) in favor of the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) they took him back to Mecca.

According to the second (underlined) narration, he converted to Islam.

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