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[Closed/Review]HELP!! Where does Allah say Bible is Corrupt?

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1 hour ago, Son of Placid said:

You now qualify to write your own ahadith.

My ahadith?  Is this mine :

Quran: jesus said after me, next messenger Ahmad comes.

where is that in your corrupted bible?

is that mine ?

you have shown yourself after 19 pages how much of an ignorant person you are  that doesn’t want to accept the truth.

even Andres that was in this topic has got his answer and is not arguing anymore. Except you.

The only way you have to disprove that is by showing it in bible.

can you or not ?

 

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1 hour ago, Arminmo said:

My ahadith?  Is this mine :

Quran: jesus said after me, next messenger Ahmad comes.

where is that in your corrupted bible?

is that mine ?

you have shown yourself after 19 pages how much of an ignorant person you are  that doesn’t want to accept the truth.

even Andres that was in this topic has got his answer and is not arguing anymore. Except you.

The only way you have to disprove that is by showing it in bible.

can you or not ?

 

I am not sure I ever got a relevant answer from you. Concerning Ahmed I have nothing to say, never heard about that person. 

 

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57 minutes ago, andres said:

am not sure I ever got a relevant answer from you

Your irrevelant question was this : where in Quran said bible is corrupted?

and the relevant answer is this: in Quran there is no “book” or word called “bible” , let alone being in any condition.

about a book that is not recognizable by Quran, we can’t discuss anything.

Quran clearly is saying about Christians  “they have no knowledge of jesus” and “following an assumption “ 4:157 so you don’t have words of jesus.

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57 minutes ago, Arminmo said:

Your irrevelant question was this : where in Quran said bible is corrupted?

and the relevant answer is this: in Quran there is no “book” or word called “bible” , let alone being in any condition.

about a book that is not recognizable by Quran, we can’t discuss anything.

Quran clearly is saying about Christians  “they have no knowledge of jesus” and “following an assumption “ 4:157 so you don’t have words of jesus.

Andre wasn't satisfied with your answer, he just figured if you were going to stretch feeble that far there was no use going any farther. Maybe that's how you win your arguments.

I realized that a while ago but it's been fun seeing how far you'd go. 

Once you out n out lie about the meaning of a verse to suit the needs you can't find in your own book...I'm embarrassed for you.  If you tried that with the Quran you'd be Rushdie'd outta here.  

You're so desperate to win something you don't know what you're arguing any more and truth no longer matters. That's the proof of 19 pages, say what you like.

 

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53 minutes ago, Son of Placid said:

Andre wasn't

 

4 hours ago, Son of Placid said:

write your own ahadith.

Don’t run away and jump on other people’s discussion,

my question from you is clear

is this my Hadith:

Quran: jesus said after me, next messenger Ahmad comes.

where is that in your corrupted bible?

son of placid has 2 options:

 either:  a)show us where that verse is in bible

 or b) admit words of jesus untouched does not exist. And per quran bible is altered.

 So what do you want to do son of placid??

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If you can understand it tell us where is the word "Ahmad" in this corrupted Bible of yours.

Does Qur'an even claim that the name Ahmed should be found in Bible? The verse clearly state that Isa (as) told Children of Israel;

 and giving Glad Tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad." 61:6

In another verse it tells actually how Prophet Muhammad (saws) character is mentioned in Bible, but it does not say that the name is actually mentioned in their book:

“(And also for) those who follow the Messenger, the unschooled Prophet, whose explanation they find written with them in the Turah and the Evangel. He enjoins on them what is right and forbids them what is wrong, and he makes lawful for them the good things and prohibits for them the corrupt things; and he removes from them their burden and the bondages that were upon them. Then, those who believe in him, and honour him, and help him, and follow the light which has been sent down with him, these are they that are the prosperous ones’.” 

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37 minutes ago, Abu Nur said:

Does Qur'an even claim that the name Ahmed should be found in Bible? 

oh my god !

It’s by name in there !

here:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/predict.htm

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36 minutes ago, Abu Nur said:

Does Qur'an even claim that the name Ahmed should be found in Bible? 

John 16: 12-14 

Periklytos

https://www.al-islam.org/ancient-prophets-modern-world-true-story-jesus-shaykh-mansour-leghaei/glad-tidings-advent-ahmad

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2 minutes ago, Arminmo said:

That is mention of the Prophet Muhammad (saws) but not by name Ahmad, same with the following verse:

“I will raise them up a prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.” Deuteronomy 18:18

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1 minute ago, Abu Nur said:

How it is misleading?

As I showed you , in those places the word Ahmad was discovered.

but by your first comment ,you put doubt on it.

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Just now, Arminmo said:

As I showed you , in those places the word Ahmad was discovered.

but by your first comment ,you put doubt on it.

Did you find any verses that says and a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad?

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1 minute ago, Abu Nur said:

Did you find any verses that says and a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad?

Do you have injil to show in that?!

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Just now, Arminmo said:

Do you have injil to show in that?!

But how we can claim that Ahmad name is found in bible in first place, Did Qur'an said anything that Ahmed name will be find in Bible?

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25 minutes ago, Abu Nur said:

But how we can claim that Ahmad name is found in bible in first place, Did Qur'an said anything that Ahmed name will be find in Bible?

Yes,That is a very important name, as you can see evidences are there, if you are not sure, at least  don’t put doubt on it.

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Just now, Arminmo said:

That is a very important name, yes it’s definitely in there, if you are not sure, at least please don’t put doubt on it.

What doubt? It is very clear in Qur'an, Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى mention and made Jesus (as) as a witness that after him a Messenger will come by name Ahmed. But Qur'an did not claim that the name can actually be find there, what Qur'an claim is that there is a description of Prophet Muhammad (saws) in Torah and Injeel.

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1 minute ago, Abu Nur said:

What doubt? It is very clear in Qur'an, Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى mention and made Jesus (as) as a witness that after him a Messenger will come by name Ahmed. But Qur'an did not claim that the name can actually be find there, what Qur'an claim is that there is a description of Prophet Muhammad (saws) in Torah and Injeel.

And that’s the word of jesus that god said it’s in injil.

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6 minutes ago, Arminmo said:

And that’s the word of jesus that god said it’s in injil.

You are right, that's why Injil is not current New Testament. If the statement is found in Qu'ran that describe the injil, then it means that the exact statement must also be found in Injil, but have it ever been found?

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2 hours ago, Arminmo said:

 

Don’t run away and jump on other people’s discussion,

my question from you is clear

is this my Hadith:

Quran: jesus said after me, next messenger Ahmad comes.

where is that in your corrupted bible?

son of placid has 2 options:

 either:  a)show us where that verse is in bible

 or b) admit words of jesus untouched does not exist. And per quran bible is altered.

 So what do you want to do son of placid??

I have many more options than you give me. I will never be limited by you anyway.

You see...I can also sit back and let other Muslims correct you. You forgot that option.

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1 hour ago, Son of Placid said:

I have many more options than you give me. I will never be limited by you anyway.

You see...I can also sit back and let other Muslims correct you. You forgot that option.

He was saying , it’s not in bible, but in injil.

so he proved my point. Where did he correct me ?

ahmad does not exist in bible, because this is not the book god gave to jesus, 

so per quran, bible is corrupted.

 

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2 hours ago, Arminmo said:

He was saying , it’s not in bible, but in injil.

so he proved my point. Where did he correct me ?

ahmad does not exist in bible, because this is not the book god gave to jesus, 

so per quran, bible is corrupted.

 

So it's your problem now.

The Bible was compiled and printed, copies issued, 300 years before Muhammad did anything. Other than translations it's the same books as today.

Muhammad heard everything from Gabriel. If Gabriel told Muhammad "Ahmed" was in Torah and Injeel and it was actually talking about him, Gabriel really should have told him where.

If Gabriel said it was there and it's not...I'd suggest you find it or Gabriel should answer for it. Gabriel also said he confirmed past scriptures, specifically mentioned Torah and Injeel, (which totally debunks your answer to Andre), . Both established so long before they even had names.

So, which is it? Gabriel confirms past scripture then says something is there that's not, (major discrepancy in your book). Or is it? This is on you, I could care less.

 

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2 hours ago, Arminmo said:

He was saying , it’s not in bible, but in injil.

so he proved my point. Where did he correct me ?

ahmad does not exist in bible, because this is not the book god gave to jesus, 

so per quran, bible is corrupted.

 

He might not be the Muslim I'm talking about.

Nice to see you now have so much faith in the dead sea scrolls. 

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18 minutes ago, Son of Placid said:

Gabriel also said he confirmed past scriptures, specifically mentioned Torah and Injeel, (which totally debunks your answer to Andre), .

Yeah Gabriel confirmed past scriptures , that were GIVEN to prophets,

but later they had became altered.

and Gabriel talked about injil.

its a book in singular, you have at least 4 gospels in plural, and there is no word or book called bible in Quran.

where is that bible in Quran?

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2 hours ago, Arminmo said:

He was saying , it’s not in bible, but in injil.

so he proved my point. Where did he correct me ?

ahmad does not exist in bible, because this is not the book god gave to jesus, 

so per quran, bible is corrupted.

 

Who is Ahmed?????

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On 7/12/2018 at 2:07 AM, Son of Placid said:

Every Muslim knows for sure it's corrupt, but cannot prove it by the Quran.

Son of placid, you said we can not prove bible is corrupted by Quran:

here is proof from Quran:

quran: jesus said after me, next messenger Ahmad comes.

where is that saying of jesus in that corrupted bible of yours?

son of placid you have 2 options:

either show that verse in bible,

or admit per quran bible is corrupted.

what do you want to do ?

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12 minutes ago, Arminmo said:

Claiming Muhammed also was called Ahmed us easy. It could be interesting to know how long after Muhammed death this claim was recorded.

Why would Muhsmmed say "Ahmed" if he meant "Muhammed" ?  It is indeed very misleading. A perfect book does not mislead. 

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7 minutes ago, andres said:

It is indeed very misleading. A perfect book does not mislead. 

This topic was not created to know what’s Andres’s idea about definition of a perfect book.

purpose of this topic is something else.

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10 minutes ago, andres said:

Why would Muhsmmed say "Ahmed" if he meant "Muhammed" ?

hi Ahmed is his private name but his name in public is Muhammed . Ahmed is one of names of God(Allah) that Muhammed driven from it .

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16 minutes ago, Arminmo said:

This topic was not created to know what’s Andres’s idea about definition of a perfect book.

purpose of this topic is something else.

We all know you think the Bible is corrupted, but this is not the topic. The topic is the headline question you find so difficult that you cant answer.

Try to consider this:

Where does the Quran say Muhammed is a false prophet? The simple answer is that the Quran never say so. 

Where does the Quran say the Bible is corrupted? The simple answer is that the Quran never say so. 

 

Got it??????

 

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26 minutes ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

hi Ahmed is his private name but his name in public is Muhammed . Ahmed is one of names of God(Allah) that Muhammed driven from it .

Your belief. Hearsay. Not a fact.

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22 minutes ago, andres said:

Where does the Quran say the Bible is corrupted? The simple answer is that the Quran never say so. 

You are asking an irrelevant question,

in Quran there is no “book” or word called bible.

let alone being in any condition.

@andres got it ??????

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8 minutes ago, andres said:

Your belief.

It doesn’t matter whether you accept our believe or not.

puprpose of this topic is something else.

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