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[Closed/Review]HELP!! Where does Allah say Bible is Corrupt?

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16 hours ago, Son of Placid said:

Quran says God has no human son, Bible refers to sons in metaphor,

When Quran is saying god doesnt have any son, which people do you think god is addressing ?!!

Why do you dance around the truth and dont accept your book is corrupted.

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8 hours ago, Arminmo said:

If you want to see the exact word of corrupted no , but , by comparing the content of 2 books, clearly we can see that it is corrupted.

By comparing the 4 Gospels we clearly see there are contradictory details. There is no doubt this is so. Your conclusion that this is because of corruption is wrong however. The 4 writers are 4 different beings. Their testimonies differ in some details. They did so from the very beginning. They were not corrupted. 

But this was not my question. Like almost all Muslims you constantly avoid answering this question:

DO YOU AGREE THE QURAN NEVER SAY THE BIBLE HAS BEEN CORRUPTED?

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1 hour ago, andres said:

DO YOU AGREE THE QURAN NEVER SAY THE BIBLE HAS BEEN CORRUPTED?

in Quran there is no word "Bible" and you have 4 gospelS ( in plural )

the Quran only recognizes one among several -canonical or not- gospels, as it speaks of "Injil" in the singular, a revelation stamped into Jesus's heart since his infancy 3:3,48,19:30 a source of guidance, admonition, light and wisdom 3:48,5:44,46 verifying the Torah that precedes it 3:50,5:46 while abolishing to the Jews the self imposed restrictions of their man-made soulless traditions, as well as giving glad tidings of a prophet to come after him.

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Hidden Teachings of the Bible That Explain Manifestation , Consciousnesses & Onneness (Powerful Info!)

 

 

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1 hour ago, Arminmo said:

in Quran there is no word "Bible" and you have 4 gospelS ( in plural )

the Quran only recognizes one among several -canonical or not- gospels, as it speaks of "Injil" in the singular, a revelation stamped into Jesus's heart since his infancy 3:3,48,19:30 a source of guidance, admonition, light and wisdom 3:48,5:44,46 verifying the Torah that precedes it 3:50,5:46 while abolishing to the Jews the self imposed restrictions of their man-made soulless traditions, as well as giving glad tidings of a prophet to come after him.

If there is no word "Bible" in the Quran, can we agree that the Quran never say the Bible is corrupted? Can we also agree that the Quran never say the 4 Gospels or any other specified book in the Bible has been corrupted? 

(Why is it so difficult for you Muslums guys to answer these very simple questions?)

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1 hour ago, andres said:

can we agree that the Quran never say the Bible is corrupted?

You are asking an irrelevant question.

there is no word “bible” in Quran.

let alone being in any condition !

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8 hours ago, Arminmo said:

You are asking an irrelevant question.

there is no word “bible” in Quran.

let alone being in any condition !

I am asking a very simple question, a question that you do not dare to answer. It is OK.

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5 hours ago, andres said:

I am asking a very simple question

Let me ask you a simple question also:

can we agree that “hamlet” by Shakespeare , never said buda is god ?!

it has the same relevant to your question .

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6 minutes ago, Arminmo said:

Let me ask you a simple question also:

can we agree that “hamlet” by Shakespeare , never said buda is god ?!

it has the same relevant to your question .

I have not checkef it out, but I am so sure Hamlet never said so, that I am prepared to say; Yes we can agree on that. Can we also agree that the Quran never say the Bible or any of its many Books have been corrupted? 

I also agree Hamlet has no relevans to the question this thread is all about. Namely if the Quran say the Bible has been corrupted

 

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54 minutes ago, andres said:

Can we also agree that the Quran never say the Bible or any of its many Books have been corrupted? 

When there is no mention of a book by that name, we can’t get a conclusion from it.

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26 minutes ago, Arminmo said:

When there is no mention of a book by that name, we can’t get a conclusion from it.

Can we not conclude that the Quran never say the Bible is corrupt when the Quran never mentions the word Bible? 

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Your argument has 2 parts :

first : is there any book called bible in Quran?

second : if the first argument is yes, then can we discuss anything about it?

your first argument is a false argument.

so we cant go to the second one.

@andres

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On 7/15/2018 at 7:33 PM, Arminmo said:

Your argument has 2 parts :

first : is there any book called bible in Quran?

second : if the first argument is yes, then can we discuss anything about it?

your first argument is a false argument.

so we cant go to the second one.

@andres

We dont need to go to the second argument if the answer to the first "argument" is no. If the answer is no, the Quran never said:  "the Bible is corrupted". 

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1 hour ago, andres said:

We dont need to go to the second argument if the answer to the first "argument" is no. If the answer is no, the Quran never said:  "the Bible is corrupted". 

Quran doesn’t recognize that book, so we can’t talk anything about it.

this topic is closed.

 

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1 hour ago, Son of Placid said:

17 pages, you have a new answer?

You'll say anything. 

 

Where did you go !

didnt Quran say messengers of god are guided, and then in your corrupted bible they got misguided by Satan ?! Does that look similiar to you ? Isn’t that corruption of your book ?!

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25 minutes ago, Arminmo said:

didnt Quran say messengers of god are guided, and then in your corrupted bible they got misguided by Satan ?! Does that look similar to you ? Isn’t that corruption of your book ?!

Hi @Arminmo, could you find the verse were it says that Messengers are misguided by Satan?

Also, I found this in the bible were it says Jesus brings the Words of God, meaning that He is guided by God. 

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For I did not speak on my own, but the Father who sent me commanded me to say all that I have spoken. -John 12:49

 

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22 minutes ago, megaman said:

Hi @Arminmo, could you find the verse were it says that Messengers are misguided by Satan?

Also, I found this in the bible were it says Jesus brings the Words of God, meaning that He is guided by God. 

 

It’s in Old Testament, do you know anything about bible before jumping in ?!

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24 minutes ago, megaman said:

For I did not speak on my own, but the Father who sent me commanded me to say all that I have spoken. -John 12:49

This is your same way of misinterpreting Quran for your own benefit to become a Baha’i !

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1 minute ago, Arminmo said:

It’s in Old Testament, do you know anything about bible before jumping in ?!

Okay great. I'm no expert but I have some background information. 

Do you know the verse? I'm just curious about it.

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2 minutes ago, megaman said:

Okay great. I'm no expert but I have some background information. 

Do you know the verse? I'm just curious about it.

That comment of yours, shows you don’t have ANY information about that book.

start reading their stories in bible you will figure it by yourself.

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7 minutes ago, Arminmo said:

That comment of yours, shows you don’t have ANY information about that book.

start reading their stories in bible you will figure it by yourself.

It's a pretty big book. I just thought to ask you since you know it and have read those stories. 

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2 hours ago, Arminmo said:

Where did you go !

didnt Quran say messengers of god are guided, and then in your corrupted bible they got misguided by Satan ?! Does that look similiar to you ? Isn’t that corruption of your book ?!

Now you are saying that the Quran say the Bible is corrupted!!!! Can you make up your mind.?

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1 minute ago, andres said:

Now you are saying that the Quran say the Bible is corrupted!!!! Can you make up your mind.?

instead of a non ending argument we can compare the verses of them with each other.

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46 minutes ago, andres said:

Which verses????????????

You bring your verses & we bring our verses

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1 hour ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

You bring your verses & we bring our verses

I know of no verses in the Quran from which that say the Bible has been corrupted. Neither do you, Armino or anybody else. Had there been, I am certain somebody had been able to present this on the first page of this thread. It has been interesting thou to follow the many attempts to derail the headline question! 

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7 hours ago, Arminmo said:

That comment of yours, shows you don’t have ANY information about that book.

start reading their stories in bible you will figure it by yourself.

That's the best way to say you have no idea either. You should step back and take a look around. See if you can find your credibility.

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33 minutes ago, Son of Placid said:

That's the best way to say you have no idea either. You should step back and take a look around. See if you can find your credibility.

Why do you run away from answering question!

arent messengers of god guided in Quran, but in your corrupted bible they got misguided by Satan?! Isn’t that corruption of your books ?!

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3 minutes ago, Arminmo said:

Why do you run away from answering question!

arent messengers of god guided in Quran, but in your corrupted bible they got misguided by Satan?! Isn’t that corruption of your books ?!

We know you're a legend in your own mind, but your say so doesn't count for anything among us common folk...less as we go along.

Who do you think you are fooling?

Come up with a source. 

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13 minutes ago, Son of Placid said:

We know you're a legend in your own mind, but your say so doesn't count for anything among us common folk...less as we go along.

Who do you think you are fooling?

Come up with a source. 

Here is your source:

https://corechristianity.com/resource-library/articles/8-godly-men-of-the-bible-who-still-needed-a-savior

still want to run away ?!

Aren’t messengers of god guided by god in Quran, but in your corrupted bible they got misguided by Satan?! Isn’t that corruption of your books ?!

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55 minutes ago, Arminmo said:

Why do you run away from answering question!

arent messengers of god guided in Quran, but in your corrupted bible they got misguided by Satan?! Isn’t that corruption of your books ?!

Derailing, derailing.

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11 hours ago, Arminmo said:

Here is your source:

https://corechristianity.com/resource-library/articles/8-godly-men-of-the-bible-who-still-needed-a-savior

still want to run away ?!

Aren’t messengers of god guided by god in Quran, but in your corrupted bible they got misguided by Satan?! Isn’t that corruption of your books ?!

Finally you come up with a source. Not in answer to the question, and not exactly;

19 hours ago, Arminmo said:

It’s in Old Testament,

But I'm sure you did your best with short notice. I wonder if you read it.

So where in the Quran does it deny any of these events? Why did they leave out Lot?

 

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1 hour ago, Son of Placid said:

Not in answer to the question, and not exactly;

What do you mean not exactly ??

arent they in Quran guided by guide and who ever god guides, no one can misguide.

didnt they misguided by Satan in your corrupted bible ? Yes or no ??

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1 hour ago, Arminmo said:

What do you mean not exactly ??

arent they in Quran guided by guide and who ever god guides, no one can misguide.

didnt they misguided by Satan in your corrupted bible ? Yes or no ??

Where do you see "misguided by Satan"?

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