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I didn't even watch the video, but I can tell you, what your looking at is a devil. This man and his country will see their end, thousands upon thousands have been killed in their name, and under proxies created by them. I have no doubt in my mind that these people are the supporters of Dajjal, they gotta be

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Lol, he took Iranians for fools, he reminds me of an Iranian idiom:"Pagan considers all to believe in his own faith", he said years ago: Iranians I promise you the second Purim, the first Purim occurred almost two and a half thousand of years ago and in it ended up in the slaughter of 70,000 Iranians burned in fire while they were sleeping on the night of 13th day of spring. Now, he speaks of peace, a U turn :D .

P.S check out the comments on youtube :) 

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Netanyahu is absolutely correct in what he says about Iran. That does not change the fact that he is an evil man. A fact proven by his policy against the Palestinian population.

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Just now, andres said:

Netanyahu is absolutely correct in what he says about Iran. That does not change the fact that he is an evil man. A fact proven by his policy against the Palestinian population.

In what way exacly? 

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9 hours ago, Kamaaluddeen al-Ismail said:

This is just too funny.. I can easily see through this guy. He is lying through his teeth. 

It's satanic style to overwhelm humans. Our own Nafs incite us for doing bad deeds as he is doing. If he friend of Iran,  why don't he leave palestinian land and pay compensation for the killings.

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48 minutes ago, andres said:

Netanyahu is absolutely correct in what he says about Iran. That does not change the fact that he is an evil man. A fact proven by his policy against the Palestinian population.

Disagreed because you are not a Muslim may be that is why you don't understand what is value of Iranian revolution and it's government. As long as Iranian government is on Islamic basis no one can harm her. 

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3 hours ago, Irfan1214 said:

It's satanic style to overwhelm humans. Our own Nafs incite us for doing bad deeds as he is doing. If he friend of Iran,  why don't he leave palestinian land and pay compensation for the killings.

Netanyahu is not a friend of Iran, but it has got little to do with the Palestinians. Besides the Quran says the land of Israel belong to the Israelites. Netanyahu agrees with the Quran on this. 

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2 hours ago, Irfan1214 said:

Disagreed because you are not a Muslim may be that is why you don't understand what is value of Iranian revolution and it's government. As long as Iranian government is on Islamic basis no one can harm her. 

Iran opresses a large part of its own population. Many Iranian women wish the same freedom as their male friends have got. Many Iranians want a democratic state. On top you hace got a council of od priests denying them this, trying to run a state as it was run 1.400 years ago. Iranians are well educated, and Iran will probanly slowly become a prosperous secular Muslim state. 

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26 minutes ago, andres said:

Iran opresses a large part of its own population. Many Iranian women wish the same freedom as their male friends have got. Many Iranians want a democratic state. On top you hace got a council of od priests denying them this, trying to run a state as it was run 1.400 years ago. Iranians are well educated, and Iran will probanly slowly become a prosperous secular Muslim state. 

What freedom are you trying to force into Iran? Nightclubs?...Alcohol...open and advertised fornication?... May God protect Iran from creeping devils like you, and open devils like the one in the video. 

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54 minutes ago, andres said:

Netanyahu is not a friend of Iran, but it has got little to do with the Palestinians. Besides the Quran says the land of Israel belong to the Israelites. Netanyahu agrees with the Quran on this. 

Lolz, where does the Quran says that the land of Palestine is solely owned by Israelities and no one else can live there and if Israelities leave that place and can come and kill people and settle on it ? Where does Quran says that its property of Israelities, it is land of God and God has told us to get back your homes and drive them from where they drive you out. 

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Well.. Netanyahu la'natullahi alayh was ready to attack Iran. But, he was stopped from doing that..

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/30/shimon-peres-claims-from-beyond-the-grave-that-he-stopped-netany/

They don't care if Muslims die, look at what they did do Iraq and Afghanistan. They're trying to do the same to Iran. Did the U.S find those mythical WMD'S? No. They're trying the same strategy... They want simply to disarm Iran. Just behead their soldiers if they are sent to Iran.  

There has already been for you an excellent pattern in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people, "Indeed, we are disassociated from you and from whatever you worship other than Allah . We have denied you, and there has appeared between us and you animosity and hatred forever until you believe in Allah alone" except for the saying of Abraham to his father, "I will surely ask forgiveness for you, but I have not [power to do] for you anything against Allah . Our Lord, upon You we have relied, and to You we have returned, and to You is the destination. (60:4)

 

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5 hours ago, YAli said:

What freedom are you trying to force into Iran? Nightclubs?...Alcohol...open and advertised fornication?... May God protect Iran from creeping devils like you, and open devils like the one in the video. 

I am not trying to force anything into Iran. I cannot, nor should I if I could. Iranians, males and females alike, are well educated grownups, able to decide for themselves if alcohol, nightclubs and fornification should be punished or not. Today a group of Priests treat their population as children, forcing lots of impopular rules on especially women.

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5 hours ago, Irfan1214 said:

Lolz, where does the Quran says that the land of Palestine is solely owned by Israelities and no one else can live there and if Israelities leave that place and can come and kill people and settle on it ? Where does Quran says that its property of Israelities, it is land of God and God has told us to get back your homes and drive them from where they drive you out. 

Personally I do not believe in historical rights 2.000 years old. In the neighbouring thread "does Israel belong to the Jews" we have discussed this issue.

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26 minutes ago, andres said:

Personally I do not believe in historical rights 2.000 years old. In the neighbouring thread "does Israel belong to the Jews" we have discussed this issue.

Yeah, you should not believe in historical right because this land is not property of humans it belongs to God and if Jews could have purchased it from Palestinian people, it would have been welcomed but this is not the case, they shall fear from the time that whatever they had taken might be snatched by someone else because Every reaction has equal and opposite reaction. And even if Jews claims historical rights, they fail in it because before them there were people who may claim same over the Jews, thus, Israel is not a legitimate country. 

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1 hour ago, Irfan1214 said:

Yeah, you should not believe in historical right because this land is not property of humans it belongs to God and if Jews could have purchased it from Palestinian people, it would have been welcomed but this is not the case, they shall fear from the time that whatever they had taken might be snatched by someone else because Every reaction has equal and opposite reaction. And even if Jews claims historical rights, they fail in it because before them there were people who may claim same over the Jews, thus, Israel is not a legitimate country. 

I agree with much of what you say. But lands are normally conquered by war, not sold. Establishing a Jewish state on the land of others was not fair, but it cannot be undone. Israel has now become a legitimate state, a bit like when the Turks conquered what today is Turkey from the Greek or the European invasion of North America. 

However Israel continues to illegaly expand its territory. Illegal according to international law. The Quran and the Bible say God promised the land to the Israelis.

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Iran is the only Muslim country in the world which has Jewish and Christian members of Parliament.

Not Egypt, not Jordan, not Morocco, not Pakistan and not Israel's most beloved Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

Incidentally, these strange bedfellows - Israel and K.SA and believed to have a secret agreement against Iran, with the full support and blessings of the US and NATO.    .

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38 minutes ago, baqar said:

Iran is the only Muslim country in the world which has Jewish and Christian members of Parliament.

Not Egypt, not Jordan, not Morocco, not Pakistan and not Israel's most beloved Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

Incidentally, these strange bedfellows - Israel and K.SA and believed to have a secret agreement against Iran, with the full support and blessings of the US and NATO.    .

Are you certain? What about Jordan?  Still democrasy has not yet been implemented in the Muslim world. Why? I believe Iran could be the first. When the next generation takes over.

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43 minutes ago, andres said:

Still democrasy has not yet been implemented in the Muslim world.

Democracy is a fallible system that is made by men for men. We don't want it. We want to establish the Shari'ah of Allaah. The rule is for Allaah. We want the laws that he the Most High has legislated for us. 

 

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1 hour ago, Kamaaluddeen al-Ismail said:

Democracy is a fallible system that is made by men for men. We don't want it. We want to establish the Shari'ah of Allaah. The rule is for Allaah. We want the laws that he the Most High has legislated for us. 

 

On behalf of who are you speaking? And where can you create a state where the laws of the Most High can be agreed upon? As long as the Muslim world is in a sort of civil war no such agreement is possible. 

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1 hour ago, Kamaaluddeen al-Ismail said:

Democracy is a fallible system that is made by men for men.

Absolutely.  

You are not far from the truth .

Winston Churchill once noted that democracy was the worst system except for the alternatives.

Actually, alternatives do exist but the people who run the show are the rich and the very rich and it is not in their interest to seriously explore them. 

If democracy was a good system, there would be no beggars in Frankfurt and Paris and no homeless people shivering on the pavements of New York and under the Strip in Las Vegas. 

Litmus Test: of a good system- A truly good system is one that assiduously precludes the accumulation of wealth in a few hands and where everyone's genuine needs are taken care of.  

Democracy just doesn't care who is in pain and who is suffering. In my understanding, religious laws, despite the hardships of the penal code and the endless list of dos and don'ts, could pass the litmus test .

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5 hours ago, Kamaaluddeen al-Ismail said:

Democracy is a fallible system that is made by men for men. We don't want it. We want to establish the Shari'ah of Allaah. The rule is for Allaah. We want the laws that he the Most High has legislated for us. 

 

Are you sure that democracy is the thing established by men itself. Quran says: "And consult each other in matters". Consultative bodies such as parliament was endorsed by Islam. Did not Prophet PBUHHP consulted his Ashab during the Battle of Trench and accepted the advice of Hazrat Salman e Farsi a.s. You speak of Caliphate as to be from Allah (SWT) but what about the person who should be caliph ? Shouldn't he be the men of God himself, the infallible one. And if you agree on this matter, then I believe that no one is worthy in this world to be Caliph except Imam Mehdi a.s and whoever says that he is caliph of the Islam and is not infallible, is a liar and enemy of Islam. Maintain democracy until our Caliph reach to us, it is what Islam says and it is what Quran want us to do. 

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3 hours ago, Irfan1214 said:

Did not Prophet PBUHHP consult his Ashab during the Battle of Trench and accept the advice of Hazrat Salman e Farsi a.s.

He consulted with those he saw fit to consult.

He did not ask the public to vote for a select committee of people who should run the system, which is the case for a democracy.

Democracy has always hinted very subtly at the dangers it entails. But now with a new person becoming the most powerful man in the world, the follies of the democratic system  have been brought into the open as never before.  .  

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33 minutes ago, baqar said:

He consulted with those he saw fit to consult.

He did not ask the public to vote for a select committee of people who should run the system, which is the case for a democracy.

Democracy has always hinted very subtly at the dangers it entails. But now with a new person becoming the most powerful man in the world, the follies of the democratic system  have been brought into the open as never before.  .  

Is there Imam apparent among us to appoint rulers ? No, so instead of giving power to a single person who may make a mistake, it is better to work with democracy until our Imam comes to us. Sometimes, even in history Prophet PBUHHP sent person with a task but same person was then asked to handover the same job to another person. I would like your attention to the event when Hazrat Abu Bakar was given the task of conveying Surah Barat to a group of people but Prophet (PBUHHP) then again sent Ali and called back Abu Bakar. It did not mean that our Prophet PBUHHP did mistake but He (PBUHHP) gave us an example that if you select a wrong person depose him from position and accord same responsibility to a responsible person. This meant to show us if we make mistake in lives and elect a wrong person, we shall not agree to every wrong decision which he makes if such person is not infallible. If Prophet PBUHHP had not set such an example, today people would have said that whoever be the caliph and how wrong he be, he must not be relieved from his post. 

Democracy is the only option which can tie as together so that we may not allow any one among fallible to take all power in his hands and destroy humanity till Imam e Zamana a.s come.

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6 hours ago, baqar said:

He consulted with those he saw fit to consult.

He did not ask the public to vote for a select committee of people who should run the system, which is the case for a democracy.

Democracy has always hinted very subtly at the dangers it entails. But now with a new person becoming the most powerful man in the world, the follies of the democratic system  have been brought into the open as never before.  .  

The democratic system in USA may have given the president to much power. Still this is better than had the president had the unlimited power of a dictator. Democrasy is not perfect, still it is the best system on earth so far. Better constructed in some nations than in other. The constitution of USA is a very old one, composed when circumstances were rather different. 

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19 minutes ago, andres said:

The democratic system in USA may have given the president to much power. Still this is better than had the president had the unlimited power of a dictator. Democrasy is not perfect, still it is the best system on earth so far. Better constructed in some nations than in other. The constitution of USA is a very old one, composed when circumstances were rather different. 

We have oldest constitution with us and that is Quran. And this constitution is not only for an individual but whole society. And it is far superior to the constitution of USA because because it is not man made but divine. 

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2 hours ago, Irfan1214 said:

We have oldest constitution with us and that is Quran. And this constitution is not only for an individual but whole society. And it is far superior to the constitution of USA because because it is not man made but divine. 

The Quran does not contain a constitution. I know attempts have been made to make a constitution based on the Quran, but as you said, man made constitutions are not perfect. Muslim nations have not yet been successful. Many Christian nations have, but only within the last 100 years.

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Just now, andres said:

The Quran does not contain a constitution. I know attempts have been made to make a constitution based on the Quran, but as you said, man made constitutions are not perfect. Muslim nations have not yet been successful. Many Christian nations have, but only within the last 100 years.

Quran is a constitution itself but it is our inability to implement it in true sense. The European countries though have constitution but their constitution is not perfect one which human beings require.

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