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Educate yourself, not just formal education, but generally. Be aware of the state of the ummah at all times. Grow basirah, and enlighten others. What Imam needs is smart, aware and educated (formal an

Shias fighting in Syria/Iraq is not sleepwalking. Fighting oppression and defending your shrines/people/country is exactly how you get ready for Imam al Mehdi's (af) return, not by waiting for him whi

But having a farm in a remote area with food and such is not the right way to prepare for his arrival is what I'm trying to say. You need to have imaan first to even fight with Imam al Mehdi (af). We

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Shias fighting in Syria/Iraq is not sleepwalking. Fighting oppression and defending your shrines/people/country is exactly how you get ready for Imam al Mehdi's (af) return, not by waiting for him while doing nothing. What Imam al Mehdi (af) really wants is for shias to prepare themselves spiritually by having more imaan, which is one thing a lot of shias are lacking. With more imaan comes more courage and strength to fight and defend the shias, like the ones on the battlefield in Syria/Iraq/Yemen, who are the real soldiers of al Mehdi.

sorry I am referring to people in the west/ UK compared with other groups who also live here, who are preparing every single day and already are miles ahead of shia in terms of what they have already done and sacrificed for their preparation

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I'm certain I've read somewhere that nukes could destroy land the size of texas...? The UK is far smaller than that. Let's not forget, the size of our island is actually enlarged on the map. If you really worry about nukes, then go someplace no one would bother targeting: the artic poles, remote parts of Russia/Africa etc. Honestly, what he's doing wouldn't help much in my opinion. But I guess it's the intention that counts.

4 minutes ago, Hassan Y said:

Shias fighting in Syria/Iraq is not sleepwalking. Fighting oppression and defending your shrines/people/country is exactly how you get ready for Imam al Mehdi's (af) return, not by waiting for him while doing nothing. What Imam al Mehdi (af) really wants is for shias to prepare themselves spiritually by having more imaan, which is one thing a lot of shias are lacking. With more imaan comes more courage and strength to fight and defend the shias, like the ones on the battlefield in Syria/Iraq/Yemen, who are the real soldiers of al Mehdi.

You've put it better than I could. The sufi friend has done quite a lot, but not applying these during his lifetime makes them obsolete. You could help the imam more effectively by helping people. Once he reappears you can focus all the energy and skill you've developed to aid him instead of the general population. Helping people, animals and the environment is literally our role here. So just work to fulfil it :) 

 

 

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36 minutes ago, notme said:

Both?  They aren't mutually exclusive.

 

In the US, as far as I know the Mormons are the role model for preparation.  Everything I know about disaster readiness, I learned from my Mormon friend.  It probably would never be an issue for me - I'm surrounded by cities and military bases that would be at the top of the nuke list.  If we do survive, I've got enough food for a few months, but we'd have to get water, and I'm certain nobody in my house could fight if it came to that.  I'm very good at invisibility though.  Maybe I can teach that special talent to my people. 

You're right there's nothing wrong with preparing food/water/shelter for the worst, but as long as your first priority is to educate yourself on Islam, gain more knowledge/imaan and help others like what repenter said.

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4 hours ago, DigitalUmmah said:

when I say "prepare" - I mean proper, full on doomsday prepping. he took me around his farm and showed me his store of 6 months worth of food for himself, family and up to 100 hundred people who might seek refuge, seed stores, horse stables and armoury. he specifically chose that location after studying factors like if the nearest city was bombed by a nuke would it affect his valley, and his water is from a local aquifer instead of the water company. plus he powers his farm by solar and wind. not only this but him and his group once a year go on a 2 week extreme survival course with ray mears himself to practice for living in the forest with zero resources

What movie inspired this?

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4 hours ago, yusur317 said:

I'm certain I've read somewhere that nukes could destroy land the size of texas...?

Dunno about that man. level a city? almost certainly. wipe out the whole UK? very very unlikely.

Disclaimer: my source of this idea is this website

http://www.wouldisurviveanuke.com/

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1 minute ago, DigitalUmmah said:

Dunno about that man. level a city? almost certainly. wipe out the whole UK? very very unlikely.

Disclaimer: my source of this idea is this website

http://www.wouldisurviveanuke.com/

Depends on what kind of nuke your talking about. Tsar Bomba, the largest Nuclear warhead ever created (50 megatons) by the Soviet Union, can easily level out the state of Texas, check out its detonation on youtube. Russia also just recently came out with a rocket propelled nuclear missile deemed the "Satan 2" which can also level out France in its entirety. Nukes are bad man..... really bad, remember the destruction and death caused by Hiroshima? Well, compare it to the Tzar Bomba down below, its that tiny dot...... now imagine that. Right now, nine countries together possess more than 15,000 nuclear weapons. The United States and Russia maintain roughly 1,800 of their nuclear weapons on high-alert status – ready to be launched within minutes of a warning. Even Israel possess around 700, they have an option deemed the "Samson Option" which is a deterrence strategy of massive retaliation with nuclear weapons as a "last resort" against a country whose military has destroyed much of there country, basically, if they go down, the world is  going down with them. 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, DigitalUmmah said:

Dunno about that man. level a city? almost certainly. wipe out the whole UK? very very unlikely.

Disclaimer: my source of this idea is this website

http://www.wouldisurviveanuke.com/

According to that website the Tsar Bomba that Russia used is able to destroy all of London. Russia has about 7300 nuclear warheads, so imagine 7300 Tsar Bomba's in UK, that would not only destroy UK but it would devastate all of Europe. 

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Depending on the city size targeted, I might survive, according to that website, but it's assuming cities are targeted not military bases. Even in the better situations, I'm in the light orange zone. I doubt we'd be able to eat our figs and grapes. 

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4 hours ago, Hassan Y said:

But having a farm in a remote area with food and such is not the right way to prepare for his arrival is what I'm trying to say. You need to have imaan first to even fight with Imam al Mehdi (af). We need to be working on our imaan, we need to be active and seek more knowledge of Islam.

No hassan. Dont call his efforts useless. Infact there was even a lecture online by agha panahiyan 

Called "buy a modern horse for the reappearnce."On youtube.he even said to buy an arrow.just listen to it

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List all the ''calamities'' that the Quran speaks about just before the day of judgement. Look at how the Quran describes the lands, the mountains, the sky when ''disaster strikes''...

And tell me that doesn't paint itself as a worldwide Nuclear war.

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5 hours ago, Hassan Y said:

What Imam al Mehdi (af) really wants is for shias to prepare themselves spiritually by having more imaan,

Do you think we need to work on any other area besides strengthening our Iman?

5 hours ago, Mohamed1993 said:

With that unity established, we can then think forward to using this to building great causes.

What steps is the shia community taking to promote this unity amongst the shias?

 I don't disagree with the arguments people presented above. Having a strong Iman is the very first thing we need to have if we want to be one of the 313 but surely there must be other things? 

Are we burying our hands in the sand when we talk of the nuclear weapons and how they have the potential to destroy everything. 'We are going to die anyway if there is a third(nuclear) world war so what's the use of doing any other preparation besides working on our faith'. Even in the case of the most deadly nuclear weapon being used not everyone will die,some people will survive, what about them?? 

 

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The war is in our minds brothers and sisters. We need to lay the foundations and groundworks for intellectual enlightenment and awakening. All of these material - horses, stables, swords, preparation for surviving a nuclear bomb, et al, are not that important.

How much do you know of your political world, and environment, and the various enemies, implicit and explicit?

How much Quran and ahadith do you know?

How much do you know of Imam Al Mahdi ajfs, and mahdi ideology?

The biggest stock of weapons we have is in books and in our teachers. The warfare is in our minds. 

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What if you move to a remote area at an advisable distance to avoid any form of blast/radiation contact. You build an Asda Supermarket like food reserve with a 40 foot deep bunker. You are set for the years ahead. WW3 kicks off, a nuclear bomb lands in the ocean whipping up an 800-1400 foot high mega tsunami wave which smashes through the mainlands. You are wrecked either way. Either a fried chicken in London or a 6 feet under crushed countryside wet one.

I don't know which is more frightening, an all out Nuclear exchange or an all-bearing natural global catastrophe. FEAR is a weapon i'm tired of, hence the greater war for me is the one with the SELF. Conquer the Self and the rest won't matter. 

This reminds me:

"Either we live on this land as free men, or die and be buried in it as pious men. We have no other choice" - Sheikh Nimr

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Salam,

 

If the current (interest/credit) based monetary system collapses, is there a way that the Shia community can survive? Are we intrinsicly  tied to a electric/paper money economy that is not really backed by a standard. If the Imam (ATFJ) were to arrive tomorrow, and all of a sudden measures were taken to freeze all accounts, devalue money, what would we have in terms of income? How would we purchase food rations, pay for healthcare? 

 

Salman

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1 hour ago, Hassan Y said:

Imaan is the most important. Could you give me some other examples of what we should work on?

I never denied Iman is the most important.  When I asked the question above I was hoping for more specific answers. 

Here are mine:

- acheiving economic prosperity 

- being active in the community

- getting physically fit,  learning to use a weapon ? 

Imam Sadiq (a.s.) says in a tradition, “If one of you prepares for the Zuhoor of Hazrat Qaem (a.s.) even with a weapon as little as an arrow, when Allah sees the intention,

I am sure He would prolong your life."

(Ghaibat-e-Nomani Pg. 137)

- On regular basis take out a sum of money from our income and give it as sadqa on behalf of our awaited Imam (as)

You must care for his leadership, loyalty and attachment in a way that Allah, Prophet (s.a.) and the forefathers of Imam Mahdi (a.s.) expect from you. You must give preference of the needs of Imam (a.s.) over your own needs, when you are reciting the Namaz-e-Hajat (Prayer of having your need fulfilled). Before giving Sadaqah on behalf of your family members, give Sadaqah on behalf of Imam-e-Zamana (a.s.) and pray for him. In addition to this, give him preference in every good deed. All this things will invite Imam's (a.s.) attention and favours for you."-(Kashful Muhajja Pg. 151-152)

 

 

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According to various end times hadith, best strategy seems to be preparation for leaving the west. The multitude of hadith we have paint a picture of how middle east will be before, during and after zohour, to some great detail. With all the chaos that will ensue, the situation will not be that much worse that it is now. Iran for instance, will have the greatest stability.  There is no mention of civil war taking place, or being attacked, only its involvement through the rise of Khorasani. 

However, regarding the rest of the world, we have hadith of 2/3rd of world population being wiped out. How? possibly nuclear and biological. Where they're going to be hit and how different places will be affected is an unknown. Perhaps we should stick with what is known and prepare our safe haven in the middle east. We might even have a chance to join Imam Mahdi's army.

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I read somewhere, that one of our Imam said to protect your books.

I think one of the recommendations people should do is:

1. Construct basement for them houses made of concrete without windows and two doors for entrance and exit.

2. Gas masks 

3. Storing food and Weapons

4. Storing important books such as Quran and Famous Ahadith Books.

5. Vehicle for family.

I think that world war three is not likely to happen, because none among the world businessmen and politicians would want to destroy their wealth and infrastructure. Even then one should not rule out to prepare for the difficult times ahead.

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TBH, I'm least worried about war and survival. 

The Iman and spirituality is the most important thing. Followers of Ahlulbayt(AS) have to pass their spirituality tests before imam(as) can reappear, but keep in mind, all the tests and tribulations that we go through in daily life are included in those tests. But we have to pass these tests to develop our spirituality. 

Reappearnance of Imam is dependant on spirituality of his(aS) followers. 

How can you prepare yourself ?

How are followers of ahlulbayt(AS) going to achieve all that that they plan for war without having proper level of Imaan ? And if they don't have sincere intentions ? I always wondered. 

Thousands and thousands of people came and died, wishing to help imam(as), only wishing to do something but majority failed because they failed in "Greater Jihad". 

Followers of ahlulbayt(AS) should learn from history and it tells us how those claimed to be companions of imams(as) left them. Look at what happened with Imam hassan(as). Their own generals left him(as). 

Look at the aqeel(as)  the messenger of Hussain(as) and how women changed the hearts and minds of those who, first, set out to help him And then how he(as) was left alone in streets of Kufaaa.. Many claimed to be companions and helpers. But when tested with discomfort only a few were left. And those who were true and sincere made to Karbala even when they had nothing but sincere hearts. 

If you really want to prepare yourself for imam(as) then 

First and foremost try to live by following footsteps of imams(AS) in daily life. Give imam(as) priority in your life and in your desires.

Educate yourself about islam, ahlulbayt(AS) and the world in general. And spread their message through actions not by words !! 

Help people. Help people for the sake of God in whatever way you can. Don't harbour bad thoughts about others.  Love and respect each other for the sake of God and Imam(as). That's how you are going to prepare yourself for imam(as). Keep your intentions pure. Keep yourself aware of situation of umaah and people around you.  Always remember you yourself are your own worst enemy. Allah can take revenge from your enemies and those who hurt you. But how are you going to take revenge from your own nafs who inclined you towards disobeying Allah and hurting other people ?    

  If you as individuals or group of people, aren't helping and caring for people around you ? If your own parents, children, friends, spouses and colleagues aren't happy with you because of your behaviour towards them ? How can you be among companions of imam(aS) ?

 All these little things matters.

Better and improve yourselves with intentions of helping imam(as). Be kind to people and help people with intentions of helping Imam(as). 

All the physical preparation can only be taken place once the hearts of believers are prepared. And how they can be prepared ? 

 They can only be prepared after going through severe kind of " Greater Jihad ". That's the test and that's what God is making followers of Ahlulbayt(as) go through by keeping Imam(aS) hidden. 

So it's good to have wishful thinking many had it before us too, but channel all that  in developing yourself spiritually and helping your siblings, children, parents, spouses and umma and people in General. And while doing all this keep telling yourself, sincerely, you are doing this for the sake of God and for the sake of Imam(as). And you aren't seeking any Reward in return from God but to be companion of Imam(AS). 

 

 

 

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