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@Hamzah J.

Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w.) is the last of the Prophets, there's no Prophet and Messenger after him.This is attested by the Qur'aan, Shi'ah sources and Sunni sources, thus we have a unity with regards to this... Then the cults like baha'iyyah and Ahamdiyyah comes along and try to change the interpretation (and reject the sahih ahaadith) because it's a stumbling block for their evil propaganda.


مَن كنتُ مَولاهُ فعليٌّ مَولاهُ وسَمِعتُهُ يقولُ أنتَ منِّي بمنزلةِ هارونَ مِن موسَى إلَّا أنَّهُ لا نبيَّ بعدي وسَمِعتُهُ يقولُ لأُعطيَنَّ الرَّايةَ اليومَ رجلًا يحبُّ اللَّهَ ورسولَهُ

الراوي:سعد بن أبي وقاص المحدث:الألباني المصدر:صحيح ابن ماجه الجزء أو الصفحة:98 حكم المحدث:صحيح


نت مني بمنزلةِ هارونَ من موسى . إلا أنه لا نبيَّ بعدي

الراوي:سعد بن أبي وقاص المحدث:مسلم المصدر:صحيح مسلم الجزء أو الصفحة:2404 حكم المحدث:صحيح


(Tafsir al-Baghaawi - 33:40, Tafsir Ibn al-Jawziy - 33:40) يريد لو لم أختم به النبيين لجعلت له ابناً يكون بعده نبياً


(Tafsir al-Baghaawi - 33:40)  وروي عن عطاء عن ابن عباس: أن الله تعالى لما حكم أن لا نبي بعده لم يعطه ولداً ذكراً يصير رجْلاً


Hassan al-Basri, who was a man amongst the salaf, said: "وخاتم النبيين  قال: ختم الله النبيين بمحمد صلى الله عليه وسلم، وكان آخر من بعث" - Ad-Durr al-Manthuur -  33:40

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Dear Brothers and Sisters:

Salamun Alaykum.

I happened to chance upon this topic whilst researching about another topic. The question is - Are Bab and Bahaullah prophets?

The answer is no.

History records them as opportunists who changed their position at every available opportunity. Islam is very clear that there will be no prophet AND messenger after the Holy Prophet of Islam (pbuh). Every verse, every tradition we have from the prophet says that he is the last prophet and messenger. Furthermore, he even condemned any person who would come forward claiming to be a new prophet or messenger.

Please see the following link: http://www.bahaiawareness.com/false_prophets.html

Also see: http://www.bahaiawareness.com/bahai14.html


Imran Shaykh

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On 1/12/2017 at 0:25 PM, Hamzah J. said:

Hey everyone.

I am so sorry for this late reply; I had to go back to the Emirates where ShiaChat is unfortunately blocked and censored.

Going back, I think that before I talk more about Baha'is and Shi'as, can you guys help me in understanding Shia Islam first? When I became a Baha'i I didn't consider all it's origins. I'm not saying Baha'is or Shi'as are right or wrong, but just as many of you made wrong claims about Baha'is, I think I have made claims about Shi'a beliefs from a very Baha'i perspective. 

In other words, I want to learn about Shi'a Islam from a Shi'a perspective. Anyone for help in where to start?

While you are a Bahai, you can also visit www.bahaiawareness.com which explains Bahai Faith from a Shiah and Sunni perspective.


Imran Shaykh

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On 12/19/2016 at 5:47 PM, Qa'im said:

Please provide references - so for Daniel, for the Qa'im coming with a new book, and a reference to new cycles breaking the seal of prophethood.

"Were all the peoples of the earth to join together to harm a single one of the people of Bahá, they would find themselves powerless, for all that they see as harming Thy chosen ones is as light unto them, and as fire unto Thine enemies." (Bahá’u’lláh, Days of Remembrance 8:3)

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On 12/19/2016 at 1:09 PM, Hamzah J. said:

Hey, I wanted to create this thread and, as a Baha'i, I am interested in creating a HEALTHY debate about whether or not Baha'u'llah and the Bab are truly prophets. 

I would request from all those who would like to comment to not insult anyone, including Baha'u'llah, the Bab. This is meant to be a healthy conversation. 

FYI, I speak perfect Arabic so I have no problem explaining things in Arabic or verses, etc. from the Baha'i writings. 

Thank you, Hamzah J., for offering to share your knowledge of Arabic. His Holiness Bah'u'llah has said: "Indeed, there existeth no language in the world as vast and comprehensive as Arabic". ~Baha’u’llah, Tabernacle of Unity, #2.58, p.53)

“In point of fact , no less than sixty percent of Baha’u’llah’s Tablets and other Writings were revealed in the ‘perspicuous Arabic tongue,’ as He describes it, in contradistinction to the ‘luminous Persian tongue’ in which the remainder of His Writings was revealed.…It is beloved of God that all should speak in Arabic, which is the richest and vastest of all languages. Were anyone to be aware of the richness and vastness of this perspicuous tongue, he would choose it as a universal language of communication. The Persian tongue is a beautiful language, and in this Dispensation God hath chosen to speak in two languages: Arabic and Persian. However, Persian is not as rich as Arabic; in fact all the languages of the earth seem limited when compared to the Arabic language. What We have mentioned here is merely what is preferable. However, Our purpose is that the peoples of the earth should choose a universal language from amongst the languages spoken by all mankind. This is what God hath ordained, and this is what will benefit all mankind, did they but know." (Bahá’u’lláh, quoted in Soheil Bushrui,"The Style of the Kitab-i-Aqdas: Aspects of the Sublime," pp.32-33)

"Among all the languages of the world, Arabic is unique in being a sacred language…”(ibid p. 26)

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On 1/21/2017 at 8:21 AM, hadez803 said:

 "That which the Lord hath ordained as the sovereign remedy and mightiest instrument for the healing of all the world is the union of all its peoples in one universal Cause, one common Faith." (Baha'u'llah, Gleanings From the Writings of Baha'u'llah, section CXX.)

“Its watchword is the unification of the human race; its standard the “Most Great Peace”; its consummation the advent of that golden millennium—the Day when the kingdoms of this world shall have become the Kingdom of God Himself, the Kingdom of Baha’u’llah,” (Shoghi Effendi, The World Order of Baha’u’llah, p. 157)

What would be wrong with this? Isn't this the expectation of the Day of Judgement? To fill the earth with peace and justice? To reach a peaceful and just world, we must first be united. What else is greater than being united in the Cause of God?

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