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[Closed/Review]The Day of Torture Movie - Film about Lady Fatima (as)

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Dear Brothers and Sisters,

As you may already be aware, there is a new Hollywood Movie currently being filmed in more than 1 country with over 400 people from world famous actors, directors, movie production and film graphic companies working on the project.

The film is about Lady Fatima (عليه السلام) and will depict what happened to her at the hands of Abu Bakr and Omar.  We are very close to completing the film with only two weeks of filming left.

Each day of filming costs close to $100K, we are very close to completing the film but are short $1.5 Million pounds.  The project management is asking for donation and are looking for investors who can help with the shortfall within the next 9 days.

Brothers and Sisters, when Imam Ali (as)'s right was usurped he asked for 40 people armed and shaved heads to wait for him at his door step.  The next day, only a few people showed up and he didn't have the necessary support to reclaim his right.

Today, we have an opportunity to show the entire world what really happened to Lady Fatima (عليه السلام), we have an opportunity to become the helpers Imam Ali (عليه السلام) didn't have 1,400 years ago, we have an opportunity to please our living Imam (عليه السلام) and to proclaim "Labayki Fatima" to stand in solidarity with Her and her unborn child.

When Imam Hussain (عليه السلام) was struck by the 3 headed arrow of Shimr, he covered his face and beard with the blood from his heart and said I will meet my grandfather like this and tell him, Abu Bakr & Omar killed me.  The calamity which befell our Lady Fatima (عليه السلام) at the hands of Abu Bakr & Omar was the source and reason for Hussain (as)'s death.  Every Karbala we hear this story and we repeat how we wish we were with them so that we can be victorious by their side.  This is our chance to show solidarity with Imam Hussain (عليه السلام).

The project needs your help and your reward is with Lady Fatima (عليه السلام).  As per the rules, I've removed the donation phone numbers and email link.

 

 

 

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I was thinking, most religious movies are produced by Islamic Republic of Iran, they have never produced anything that would divide Muslim Ummah, why this kind of movie now? Then I remembered one of the saying of our Imams that when our Imam e zaman, Imam Mahdi a.s comes, the first people who will reject him  are his own Shias, the infiltrated Shias that have been infiltrated by the Zionists who pretend to be Shias, or getting paid by the Zionists to create disunity among Muslim brothers. So supporting this movie has nothing to do with Lady Fatima Zahrah S.A so STOP USING OUR RELIGION AND THE AHLUL BAYT a.s family for your own SELFISH benefits!

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Slandering without evidence, this will return to you on the day of judgement.  Maybe Ahl-al-bayt gave copy-write license to I.R. Iran that i'm not aware of, I missed that one.  Second, If the film is produced according strict Islamic observances, then what is the problem? please help me understand. You live in the U.K or the U.S. or other western countries and your mosque is built by non-Muslim contractors, does that invalidate the Mosque, because it was built by non-Muslim contractors?  Is your Hussayniah now built for selfish benefits because non Muslims built it?     What kind of dumb logic is this? Alhamdulilah who made the enemies of the Ahlul-bayt of the stupid kind.

And to suggest a movie which speaks the truth of what happened to Lady Fatima is dividing the Ummah. I don't know what to say.  Lady Fatima (as) was oppressed and her oppression should be maintained for the sake of unity.  Tell me, when did unity of the Ummah take priority over the Truth? 

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44 minutes ago, jmo said:

You live in the U.K or the U.S. or other western countries and your mosque is built by non-Muslim contractors, does that invalidate the Mosque, because it was built by non-Muslim contractors?

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I wasn't arguing with you about nonMuslims or Western countries for you to bring this up, it just  tells me something about you and your character...that you don't have a valid point and you would bring a lame excuse to get other people to support you. Because of people like you and your  "Fadak" TV and your likes, Shias are getting murdered around the world. You don't spread Islam, you and your likes spread HATE AND spread SECTARIANISM around the world.

44 minutes ago, jmo said:

  What kind of dumb logic is this? Alhamdulilah who made the enemies of the Ahlul-bayt of the stupid kind.

Speaking of being stupid, I am a proud Ahlul Bayt lover/supporter and I see you as the enemy of Ahlul Bayt, Alhamdulillah. You have blood of 1000s of Shias in your hands! Friends like you, we don't need any enemies!

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Salam. Why did all this money not go to the poor Muslims around the world, or to building mosques? Who the heck is paying for this. What about donating to hawza's  so people can learn about Lady Fatima (sallallahu alaihe wasallam wa alayhil salat wal salam)? 

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11 minutes ago, Mansur Bakhtiari said:

Salam. Why did all this money not go to the poor Muslims around the world, or to building mosques? Who the heck is paying for this. What about donating to hawza's  so people can learn about Lady Fatima (sallallahu alaihe wasallam wa alayhil salat wal salam)? 

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Salam Alaykum brother.

You see brother, if these Shia extremists whom have nothing to do with Ahlul Bayt a.s, don't make movies who would insult other schools of thoughts, then how could ISIS and Al Qaeda terrorists recruit more terrorists around the Muslim world against Shias??  Its the same people who support and fund head chopping ISIS terrorists, are supporting and funding these Shia extremists, killing two birds with one stone. Insulting other school of thought by these Shia extremists, gives ISIS/Al Qaeda a tool to recruit more head choppers to kill more Shias. This is the time that we need more unity than ever, Lets pray to Allah swt to eradicate all forms of extremism, terrorism and Satanism, and unite us under one Muslim Umma so we can live in peace and coexist with one another as peace loving brothers and sisters inshallah, Ameen.

Wasalam.

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Raafadi posted this somewhere today 

 

“*HOLYWOOD FILM SHOWING HOW THEY KILLED Fatima!*

*DO YOU LOVE Fatima AL-Zahra?*

*IF YES, SUPPORT HER FILM THAT WILL CHANGE THE WORLD!*

‘The Day of Torture’ is halfway there! The initial fundraising campaign was a major success in raising £5,000,000. The film is now making rapid progress and requires further support in order to push it to its final goal in reaching cinemas worldwide! Donate towards this once in a lifetime opportunity!

For those who aren't aware, ‘The Day of Torture’ is a cinematic film that will meet the standards of western cinema. The first-ever film to present, in all clarity, the torture Fatima al-Zahra (peace be upon her) faced leading to her death at the hands of Umar Ibn al-Khattab (Allah’s curse be upon him). This film, with the permission of Allah, will be a unique and a never-before-seen opportunity to allow humanity to know the history they tried to hide and a chance to guide countless across the globe!

I don’t think this is a good idea for a movie, because not all Shi’as agree that he killed her. 

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Bank details for donation removed.

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13 minutes ago, Mortadakerim said:

I will never love those who opposed the Ahlul Bayt, however why would you spend all of this money on a film that is based on something that we can debate for free?! 100K a day?! Seriously?! You could have done so much with that. 

The purpose is to spread the truth among non-Muslims, and to expose the real origin of terrorism.

Edited by Simon the Canaanite

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7 hours ago, Simon the Canaanite said:

The purpose is to spread the truth among non-Muslims, and to expose the real origin of terrorism.

This film won’t do that. Trust me. There will be enough Sunnis who have an explanation for this event. There are so many arguments in support and against the reality of this event. It’s like trying to find a needle in a haystack. And in the end there will be just more fitna. Since, both you and me know that there won’t be a ijma’ on proof of this tragedy. I actually think that if there were to be a major debate between two grand scholars, then still, I think after the results, people will find themselves doubting what actually happened and some will even go on to trying to refute one of the two stances.

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46 minutes ago, Mortadakerim said:

This film won’t do that. Trust me.

It will, ʾIn shāʾ Allāh.

تَفَاءَلُوا بِالخَيْرِ تَجِدُوهُ

46 minutes ago, Mortadakerim said:

There will be enough Sunnis who have an explanation for this event.

The film in the first place is not aimed at them, it’s aimed at the western community.

Even then, it will (bi ʾiḏhn illāh) push people to do research and find the truth.

46 minutes ago, Mortadakerim said:

There are so many arguments in support and against the reality of this event.

Our great scholars will be there to refute them.

The Ḥānafi scholar, Ibn al-Shiḥnā al-Ḥānafi, said in his book, rāwḍh al-mānaḍhīr fi iʾlm al-awāiʾl wāl-aʾwāḵḫīr, page 101:

“Then, Omar came after that to burn the house of Ali on whomever is inside of it.”

ثُمَّ إنَّ عُمَرَ جَاءَ بَيْتَ عَلِيٍّ لِيَحْرِقَهُ عَلى مَنْ فِيهِ، فَلقِيَتْهُ فَاطِمَةُ - رَضِيَ اللهُ عَنْهَا - فَقَالَ: ادْخُلُوا فِيمَا دَخَلتْ فِيهِ الأُمَةُ

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46 minutes ago, Mortadakerim said:

And in the end there will be just more fitna.

al-Imam al-Ḥusāyn output-onlinepngtools.png.781c65f14945b7d6d8f83dc70fd649fd.png was also accused of creating fitnā, and if it weren’t for him, we wouldn’t have been Muslims.

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6 hours ago, Simon the Canaanite said:

It will, ʾIn shāʾ Allāh.

تَفَاءَلُوا بِالخَيْرِ تَجِدُوهُ

 

We will see what happens

6 hours ago, Simon the Canaanite said:

The film in the first place is not aimed at them, it’s aimed at the western community.

Even then, it will (bi ʾiḏhn illāh) push people to do research and find the truth.

 

So if a non-Muslim knows what happened to seyeda Zahra (ع), then how will this bring him closer to Islam. Before this, one should atleast know the basics of Islam and belief in the existence of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى).

6 hours ago, Simon the Canaanite said:

Our great scholars will be there to refute them.

We will see

6 hours ago, Simon the Canaanite said:

al-Imam al-Ḥusāyn output-onlinepngtools.png.781c65f14945b7d6d8f83dc70fd649fd.png was also accused of creating fitnā, and if it weren’t for him, we wouldn’t have been Muslims.

So this film will convert masses to Shi’asm? Just as the 200 million lovers of Ahlul Bayt today? Imam Hussayn should not be compared to a film. 

Akhi, let’s stop discussing and have sabr

wasalam

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I also want to clarify some things, and why the film was delayed.

The delay was caused by one of the workers, Ḥāmid al-Ṭāhir, who tried to steal the money and flee. He was arrested, imprisoned, and the money was recovered.

 

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@Mortadakerim Enlightened Kingdom LTD.  is the production company behind it.  An ofshoot of Fadak TV.  They subcontracted many of the filming activities to 3rd party specialists in the industry.

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They've built two replica cities of Mecca, and Medina complete with houses, ka'ba and Masjid.  They hired top Hollywood and British film producers, directors, and production companies to produce this to the highest film production standards with a budget of Approximately $13Million.

The movie is entirely self funded in order to maintain control over the content and its alignment with historical facts and Islamic values such as showing faces of the Imams, etc..

The Movie Scenario begins with a boy who recently lost his mother due to a terrorist attack, and is taken into the custody of his grandmother.  As the boy questions and tries to understand what happened and why anyone would do something like this, the grandmother begins to tell the boy stories of the Prophet and the Ahl-Albayt (عليه السلام).  Through the boy's imagination, we will go back in time and see the battles of Badr, and Uhud, and the day of Ghadeer among the historical parts of the movie.  We will also see the oppressive and brutal attack on Lady Fatima's (عليه السلام) house and how Fadak was usurped from her after the martydom of her father (عليه السلام).

They are 8 weeks away from completing the filming of the movie and provided there are no hiccups, we could see this in theatres before the end of the year.

The organization sponsoring the movie is experiencing a budget shortfall at the moment and looking for help from the community.  If you see it in your heart to set aside our differences and be among those who will answer the call of Al-Zahra (عليه السلام), please pledge your support in the reply.

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39 minutes ago, jmo said:

Enlightened Kingdom LTD.  is the production company behind it.  An ofshoot of Fadak TV.  They subcontracted many of the filming activities to 3rd party specialists in the industry.

So from where did they get 13 million pounds?

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Every Muharram, we attend the Majalis and say "ya laitana kunna Ma'akum linafuza Ma'akum", "Wished we were there with you, so that we could be victorious along side you"

Lady Fatima (عليه السلام) went out with her husband and children (عليه السلام) and knocked on every door of the Ansaar asking for their help against the usurpers. Very very few people answered her call, the majority of the people apologetically declined.   It is as if this is our turn to help Lady Fatima (عليه السلام) and answer her call.  We were not there to support here back then, but 1400 years later, with this movie, it is as if she is knocking on our doors now to support her by telling her story.

With this movie we will cause a Majlis-e-Azaa for Lady Fatima (عليه السلام) in every household, and maybe responsible for hundreds, maybe thousands of converts to Islam.  Even if they don't convert, the hearts will be sympathetic to us the Shia and learn about the True Islam of Ahl-Albayt (عليه السلام) and separate it from the violent Islam responsible for what the media calls Islamic Terrorism.  I can't think of any project in our generation that is more ambitious than this.  if you can donate even with $1.  Don't be like the Muslims back then who declined to help Lady Fatima (عليه السلام) when she knocked on their doors

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8 hours ago, Mortadakerim said:

So from where did they get 13 million pounds?

probably from people like as evangelists & Zionists that want extending rift & hatred between Shias & Sunnis , anyway from begining this movies boycotted by all great Shia Marjas but Shirazi cult are  insisting to spreading hatred between Shias & Sunnis by making such movies .

Reply by Ayatollah Makarem Shirazi

Ayatollah Nasser Makarem Shirazi said in response: No doubt those who help make or watch this film are committing a major sin. Especially in the current situation where any divisions between Muslims are the enemies of Islam, such acts have a heavy religious responsibility and are likely to be open and planned by the enemies of Islam (which this film is produced by). If blood is shed this way, everyone who has donated is a partner.
He said: You must tell everyone who seeks to create such divisive programs, is not from us & unfortunately misused by the collective devotion of the Ahlul-Bayt (عليه السلام) and especially the great Lady of Islam Fatima Zahra (SA). And the messages that these films have are not the message of Islam and the Shiite Ahl al-Bayt (عليه السلام).

Reply by Ayatollah Nouri Hamedani
Ayatollah Hossein Nouri Hamdani also said in response: We are against such activities and never consider it in the interest of Islam and consider any assistance and attention to it and watching it as forbidden and against the law.

Ayatollah Sobhani's answer
Ayatollah Ja'far Sobhani also responded: In the current situation in the Islamic countries and in view of the great sedition that is being carried out today by the aliens who are killed as a result of Muslims and thus millions of Iraqis And the Syrians are fleeing their homes and refugees to the West, and are likely to drown in the sea before reaching their destination.
He said: "Under these circumstances, it is far from rational to make a film that only meets the wishes of the enemies inside, so making it prohibited and contributing to it will  Haram and against Sharia"

Ayatollah Safi Golpayegani's answer
Ayatollah Lotfollah Safi Golpayegani said in reply: I have repeatedly warned that Shiites and lovers of the Prophet's ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)) infinite and purity (عليه السلام) should always be careful whose actions reinforce Islam and the illuminated teaching of the Qur'an and the Sunnah. Observe the demands of time and place, and avoid acts that result in insults and disrespect for Islam and religion, and a number of the oppressed Shiites are injured or martyred by the enemies of Islam and some are displaced from their homeland.
He emphasized: however, the believers should be careful and avoid any activities such as making films, etc. that have such negative consequences.

https://fa.alalamtv.net/news/1835412/نظر-4-مرجع-تقلید-درباره-یک-فیلم-تفرقه-انگیز

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When Imam Mahdi (عليه السلام) returns.  Many turbaned scholars will reject him saying “return where you came from, Son of Fatima.  We have no need for you”

So many unanswered questions from the previous comments, wished any of the Ayatollas who are against this film would clarify for us.

1. Is it from Islam to conceal the truth in order to avoid fitnah?  If this was the case than why did Fatima (عليه السلام) speak out against Abu Bakr and Umar in the Prophet’s mosque?  This argument is the same one Abu Bakr used against Fatima. Giving her Fadak and allowing her and her husband to remain in opposition would create fitna.  In that sense was Abu Bakr justified and Fatima in the wrong?

This logic would also mean Imam Hussain (عليه السلام) was wrong to come out against Yazeed (la) because he would have created fitna among the Muslim’s and caused the killing of so many Shias.  Remember after Imam Hussein (عليه السلام) Shias we’re heavily persecuted to the point of extinction.  Would any Shia argue Imam Hussein was wrong?

2. The [edited out] / Umary / Salafi extremists will target the Shia no matter what we do.  Whether we speak the truth or hide behind the Taqiyya, we are targets.  Can anyone guarantee attacks on us will stop if we do t make the movie?

3. Simply look at the videos attached at the top of this thread to prove some of these concerns wrong.  The script rehearsal people were drawn to the lady and made the following statements:

a.  I love this lady because of her strength

b.  The movie will be a wake up call to women everywhere

c. This gives me an idea of how something like ISIS started.

d. Islam was one thing, these people did this and now Islam is something else

e. Once you see that treachery and betrayeal from history, well that’s what ISIS is doing.

f. The thing I connected with the most was the lady got the nail in the chest, it was horrible.

Film making is the most powerful media platform of this generation.  This movie will change peoples opinions of Islam, of Shias and will cause many to convert.

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As the OP has clarified, this film is supposedly being made by an off shot from Fadak tv, probably the more extreme people from among it. 

They too wish to remain anonymous, the people they hire, they too will not give away their identity. Already now it has been shown that one from among their staff was a thief that got caught by the police.

These brave people who wish to remain anonymous themselves for fear of their own safety while risking all the Shias safety in the world by their works, do not have the credentials to be trusted.

It is beyond me why ShiaChat would allow the promotion of this project on their platform, especially as many respected marajae and scholars have condemned this project and now its just becoming a "my country is better than yours" thread.

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1 hour ago, Soldiers and Saffron said:

It is beyond me why ShiaChat would allow the promotion of this project on their platform, especially as many respected marajae and scholars have condemned this project and now its just becoming a "my country is better than yours" thread.

This is ShiaChat, a discussion board. Mods are not promoting the film, they are allowing discussion of it. People will always disagree and have differences on controversial issues, because that is human nature. Mods agree that everyone should be heard and then others can make up their own mind, ignore or refute, as long as people remain civil.

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1 hour ago, ShiaChat Mod said:

This is ShiaChat, a discussion board. Mods are not promoting the film, they are allowing discussion of it. People will always disagree and have differences on controversial issues, because that is human nature. Mods agree that everyone should be heard and then others can make up their own mind, ignore or refute, as long as people remain civil.

Is the purpose of this thread to create a discussion regarding this controversial project or to create publicity/fundraising for it?

There is a huge difference between the two.

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6 minutes ago, Soldiers and Saffron said:

Is the purpose of this thread to create a discussion regarding this controversial project or to create publicity/fundraising for it?

There is a huge difference between the two.

The Mods are definitely not promoting the film, as @ShiaChat Mod said above. Twice now Mods have removed banking information that two different members have posted, to ask for a donation.

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