Do modern day Iranians regret the 1979 revolution?

[HumanForLife]

The generation who remembers the Shah and Khomeini (60+ yr olds) as adults overwhelmingly regrets the revolution except those who benefited from the revolution (who are somehow tied to the regime in the widest sense through work or relatives) and old Marxists and other members of political groups who mainly live abroad in capitalist countries. This generation is much more political than the following ones.

The first generation after that (today’s 40–55 yr olds) overwhelmingly condemn the revolution, they are the “burnt generation” (they were young adults in the worst period of the modern history of Iran). The most fanatic anti-regime Iranians are generally from this generation.

The younger generations (particularly 18–30 year olds) have entirely grown up under mullahs. They have generally been taught by the Iranian regime through school, media and have no clue about Iran under the Shah and hence a very limited power of judgement. Most supporters of the Islamic regime are amongst them, the mullahs reframed support for the Islamic Republic as support for Iranian national interests, and also demonized the Shah to grotesque dimensions. Most members of this generation have a completely unrealistic picture of the situation before ’79.

This is what i've heard, correct me if i'm wrong.

Also another contrast exists between Iranians inside and outside the country. Iranians who emigrated to Western countries from 1978 until ca. 2000 (some 4 million) are the most outspoken critics of the revolution. Together with their children, they’ve built up sizeable exile communities. Overall, they are the most educated community of Iranians worldwide, had a secular education. Also, they are the only source in the world for neutral Persian history books about modern Iranian history and many other texts that are indexed by the authorities in Iran, and consequently, very few of them would argue in favour of the revolution.

[Soldiers and Saffron]

12 minutes ago, HumanForLife said:

This is what i've heard, correct me if i'm wrong.

There are two famous saying that I like:

"Believe only half of what you see and nothing that you hear."

And:

"Always listen twice: first what's being said then who said it."

Now I have two questions for you:

Are you asking if what your saying is true?

What are you going to do with this knowledge once you know if its true or not?

[Ali_Hussain]

I shouldn't really reply to this as I have never been to Iran and so can't comment on the situation - however to claim that these anti-IRI Iranians in exile are in any way neutral is a total joke, I have known a few Iranians like that, I have found them to be just as extreme if not more so than some of the extremist pro-IRI camp who are unable to see any problems with the current system. Some of them will avoid you if you identify yourself as a Muslim, they are blinded by their desire for absolute liberalism.

Edited October 30, 2016 by Ali_Hussain

[HumanForLife]

5 minutes ago, IbnSina said:

Are you asking if what your saying is true?

I'm asking so I can get answers, the description was written to see what correct and what isn't, an answer similar to Ali_Hussain would be appreciable.

[Enlightened Follower]

52 minutes ago, HumanForLife said:

I'm asking so I can get answers

I am not sure if this is related to your question, but the number of people using the internet has increased in Iran:

Year	Internet Users**	Penetration (% of Pop)	Total Population	Non-Users (Internetless)	1Y User  Change	1Y User  Change	Population  Change
2016*	39,149,103	48.9 %	80,043,146	40,894,043	7.7 %	2,784,831	1.18 %
2015*	36,364,272	46 %	79,109,272	42,745,000	18.3 %	5,614,748	1.24 %
2014	30,749,524	39.4 %	78,143,644	47,394,120	33.1 %	7,642,367	1.28 %
2013	23,107,157	30 %	77,152,445	54,045,288	33.5 %	5,796,677	1.31 %
2012	17,310,480	22.7 %	76,156,975	58,846,495	21.2 %	3,025,459	1.29 %
2011	14,285,021	19 %	75,184,322	60,899,301	21 %	2,478,735	1.25 %
2010	11,806,286	15.9 %	74,253,373	62,447,087	16.6 %	1,681,091	1.2 %
2009	10,125,196	13.8 %	73,370,982	63,245,786	16.1 %	1,407,006	1.16 %
2008	8,718,189	12 %	72,530,693	63,812,504	28.4 %	1,926,224	1.13 %

Source: http://www.internetlivestats.com/internet-users/iran/

Edited October 30, 2016 by Enlightened Follower

[sidnaq]

i dont know whether they diasgree, but i really agree with shia islam forpeople like khomeini and his system of the islamic revolution for iran needed to be an islamic country, a proper islamic country with proper teachings thats why i and other shias love iran, thats why hawzas are important and the best celebrities of iran are the scholars of iran, even the previous scholars. 

[A true Sunni]

6 hours ago, HumanForLife said:

I'm asking so I can get answers, the description was written to see what correct and what isn't, an answer similar to Ali_Hussain would be appreciable.

My only issue with your post is 'all of it'

You start of with 3 paragraphs quoting 'facts'. You have a  throw away line in the middle saying correct me if I am wrong.

Doesn't really come over as a question more as a bigotted challenge dressed up to look like a question.

You dont cite any references for your assertions and yet it reads like a 'study'

You make vague assertions/allegations about benefitting from the revolution.

You just come across as just another anti-IRI individual trying to dress up a hate in a academic way 

Correct me if I am wrong

Edited October 30, 2016 by A true Sunni

[A true Sunni]

I am of course just 'asking so I can get answers'

[HumanForLife]

4 minutes ago, A true Sunni said:

My only issue with your post is 'all of it'

You start of with 3 paragraphs quoting 'facts'. You have a  throw away line in the middle saying correct me if I am wrong.

Doesn't really come over as a question more as a bigotted challenge dressed up to look like a question.

You dont cite any references for your assertions and yet it reads like a 'study'

You make vague assertions/allegations about benefitting from the revolution.

You just come across as just another anti-IRI individual trying to dress up a hate in a academic way 

Correct me if I am wrong

 

1 minute ago, A true Sunni said:

I am of course just 'asking so I can get answers'

I don't hate iran if thats what your asking.

[A true Sunni]

8 minutes ago, HumanForLife said:

 

I don't hate iran if thats what your asking.

What about the Islamic Republic of Iran. I had a number of questions in there or were they statements?

Edited October 30, 2016 by A true Sunni

[HumanForLife]

Just now, A true Sunni said:

What about the Islamic Republic of Iran

I have nothing but love for it.

[A true Sunni]

6 minutes ago, HumanForLife said:

I have nothing but love for it.

Good now reread it and think how it reads till the 4th paragraph. 

[HumanForLife]

7 minutes ago, A true Sunni said:

Good now reread it and think how it reads till the 4th paragraph. 

I see nothing wrong with it.

[A true Sunni]

16 minutes ago, HumanForLife said:

I see nothing wrong with it.

How do you think my post to you read

[Haydar Husayn]

7 hours ago, HumanForLife said:

The generation who remembers the Shah and Khomeini (60+ yr olds) as adults overwhelmingly regrets the revolution except those who benefited from the revolution (who are somehow tied to the regime in the widest sense through work or relatives) and old Marxists and other members of political groups who mainly live abroad in capitalist countries. This generation is much more political than the following ones.

The first generation after that (today’s 40–55 yr olds) overwhelmingly condemn the revolution, they are the “burnt generation” (they were young adults in the worst period of the modern history of Iran). The most fanatic anti-regime Iranians are generally from this generation.

The younger generations (particularly 18–30 year olds) have entirely grown up under mullahs. They have generally been taught by the Iranian regime through school, media and have no clue about Iran under the Shah and hence a very limited power of judgement. Most supporters of the Islamic regime are amongst them, the mullahs reframed support for the Islamic Republic as support for Iranian national interests, and also demonized the Shah to grotesque dimensions. Most members of this generation have a completely unrealistic picture of the situation before ’79.

This is what i've heard, correct me if i'm wrong.

Also another contrast exists between Iranians inside and outside the country. Iranians who emigrated to Western countries from 1978 until ca. 2000 (some 4 million) are the most outspoken critics of the revolution. Together with their children, they’ve built up sizeable exile communities. Overall, they are the most educated community of Iranians worldwide, had a secular education. Also, they are the only source in the world for neutral Persian history books about modern Iranian history and many other texts that are indexed by the authorities in Iran, and consequently, very few of them would argue in favour of the revolution.

Maybe you should read this, as quoted by brother @Haji 2003, as an example of the type of 'neutrality' you can expect from many exiles and opposition figures in Iran:

Quote

One journalist usually sympathetic to the opposition said that “the problem is that the picture of what is happening in Iran these days comes largely from exiled Iranians and is often a product of wishful thinking or propaganda.” I asked about the videos online and he said that these were mostly concocted by the opposition using film of real demonstrations that had taken place in the past. He pointed to one video, supposedly filmed in the middle of winter, in which trees covered in leaves were clearly visible in the far background.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/iraq-syria-aleppo-mosul-patrick-cockburn-propaganda-we-consume-a7373951.html

You seem to be hearing a lot of things, but perhaps you should check your sources. Are your sources believing, practicing Shia Muslims?

Now, that's not to say that there probably aren't many problems in Iran, as there is in any country, and especially in one that has been under economic and ideological attack for decades. That doesn't mean that everything is the fault of the 'mullahs' though.

As for the Shah, I don't know what type of Muslim wouldn't think he was an evil tyrant. I would love to see some kind of defence for his crimes.