Advanced Member Popular Post Rasul Posted October 24, 2016 Advanced Member Popular Post Report Posted October 24, 2016 Sheik Hassan Allahyari. Salam. Last week Sheikh Asrar Rashid issued at challenge to the Shia Ulema based in the West to debate him. I hereby accept the challenge. Having previously debated and destroyed a plethora of Bakri titans via TV debates, I'll happily do the same with you. I'm based in the USA so therefore fulfill your requirement that the scholar be from the West. As the debate will need to be via satellite I'm happy for it to be aired live for all to see. We can show it concurrently on my Ahlelbayt TV channel and whatever Bakri channel (using your facebook live or any other means of live streaming) you want to show it on. So Shaykh Asrar, I am here, ready, willing and able. Now all that's left is for us to agree the conditions of the debate on the uprightness of the Sheikhayn (Abu Bakr, Umar, A'isha ) and all other companions who deviated from the path of Allah (swt). I'll look forward to hearing from you in due course. Ahlbaittv@gmail.comhttps://eng.abtv.org Ali_Hussain, Ya_isa (as), humanbeing101 and 11 others 14 Quote
Forum Administrators Reza Posted October 24, 2016 Forum Administrators Report Posted October 24, 2016 How do you know he's going to see your post here? Ali_Hussain 1 Quote
DigitalUmmah Posted October 24, 2016 Report Posted October 24, 2016 is this the challenge that sayed ammar nakshawani flopped & ran away from? thank god there are still some shia left in the world willing to take a stand Muslim2010 and Rasul 2 Quote
Advanced Member Rasul Posted October 24, 2016 Author Advanced Member Report Posted October 24, 2016 50 minutes ago, magma said: How do you know he's going to see your post here? Salam. Asrar Rashid has been informed personally, this is info for Shiites. Ya_isa (as), Muslim2010 and Praetorius 3 Quote
Advanced Member Rasul Posted October 24, 2016 Author Advanced Member Report Posted October 24, 2016 31 minutes ago, DigitalUmmah said: is this the challenge that sayed ammar nakshawani flopped & ran away from? thank god there are still some shia left in the world willing to take a stand Yes! DigitalUmmah, Ya_isa (as) and Praetorius 3 Quote
Popular Post DigitalUmmah Posted October 24, 2016 Popular Post Report Posted October 24, 2016 1 hour ago, Rasul said: Yes! I can tell you now that sheikh allahyari is going to MASSACRE that bakri. they REALLY poked a sleeping lion in the eye when they started celebrating nakshawani running away Praetorius, Sirius_Bright, zainabamy and 4 others 7 Quote
Forum Administrators Reza Posted October 24, 2016 Forum Administrators Report Posted October 24, 2016 What will this debate accomplish compared to all others before? Quote
DigitalUmmah Posted October 24, 2016 Report Posted October 24, 2016 3 minutes ago, magma said: What will this debate accomplish compared to all others before? do you not know whats been going on? Quote
Veteran Member Ibn Al-Shahid Posted October 24, 2016 Veteran Member Report Posted October 24, 2016 5 minutes ago, DigitalUmmah said: do you not know whats been going on? No. Please inform us Ali_Hussain 1 Quote
Popular Post DigitalUmmah Posted October 24, 2016 Popular Post Report Posted October 24, 2016 6 minutes ago, Ibn Al-Shahid said: No. Please inform us to summarise - sayed ammar nakshawani gave a majalis about 1 2 and 3, he was pretty derogatory towards them lol. this got the sunni in an uproar so king bakri debator, asrar rashid, immediately challenged nakshawani to a face to face debate to discuss the things that nakshawani said in his majalis. nakshawani, to put it bluntly, "did an omar". as you can imagine, to the bakris, someone like nakshawani refusing to debate was basically 1000 eids all in one. twitter, facebook, whatsapp etc have been blowing up with bakris gloating how shia cannot argue against them when asked to provide proofs, all our beliefs are lies, our foremost speakers are cowards etc etc etc. sheikh allahyari has risen to the challenge, and will defeat them inshaAllah. this debate MUST take place now, to save further shia humiliation. Allahyari is good enough for them. and plus he calls sunni "followers of omar" so I might actually be in love with him Praetorius, Sirius_Bright, Al-Hussayni and 6 others 9 Quote
Advanced Member goldenhawk Posted October 24, 2016 Advanced Member Report Posted October 24, 2016 (edited) I would like to challenge farid on here regarding his 1st three masters and his beliefs of the holy prophet (sawas). I have seen his arguments and rebuttals. they believe me, they are not strong refutations. Just because if someone writes a article or a refutation on something, then it does not mean that is right. I will rely mostly on sahih bukhari and muslim (other narration from sahih sitta will be used as well) and that should be sufficient. Edited October 24, 2016 by goldenhawk Quote
DigitalUmmah Posted October 24, 2016 Report Posted October 24, 2016 2 minutes ago, goldenhawk said: I would like to challenge farid on here regarding his 1st three masters. I have seen his arguments and rebuttals. they believe me, they are not strong refutations. I will rely mostly on sahih bukhari and muslim (other narration from sahih sitta will be used occasionally) and that should be sufficient. tag him in bro otherwise he cant see it Quote
Guest silasun Posted October 24, 2016 Report Posted October 24, 2016 The Californian "mujahid" with psychological issues is now defending Shi'ism? How fantastic. I would have a look at br. Al-Mufeed contributed: Quote
Veteran Member Ali_Hussain Posted October 24, 2016 Veteran Member Report Posted October 24, 2016 32 minutes ago, silasun said: The Californian "mujahid" with psychological issues is now defending Shi'ism? How fantastic. I would have a look at br. Al-Mufeed contributed: To be fair, allahyari offered fadak tv the chance to debate him on this issue, they turned him down. Quote
Veteran Member Akbar673 Posted October 24, 2016 Veteran Member Report Posted October 24, 2016 1 hour ago, DigitalUmmah said: to summarise - sayed ammar nakshawani gave a majalis about 1 2 and 3, he was pretty derogatory towards them lol. this got the sunni in an uproar so king bakri debator, asrar rashid, immediately challenged nakshawani to a face to face debate to discuss the things that nakshawani said in his majalis. nakshawani, to put it bluntly, "did an omar". as you can imagine, to the bakris, someone like nakshawani refusing to debate was basically 1000 eids all in one. twitter, facebook, whatsapp etc have been blowing up with bakris gloating how shia cannot argue against them when asked to provide proofs, all our beliefs are lies, our foremost speakers are cowards etc etc etc. sheikh allahyari has risen to the challenge, and will defeat them inshaAllah. this debate MUST take place now, to save further shia humiliation. Allahyari is good enough for them. and plus he calls sunni "followers of omar" so I might actually be in love with him Did Nakshwani give a reason as to why he didn't accept the invite to a debate? Quote
Forum Administrators Reza Posted October 24, 2016 Forum Administrators Report Posted October 24, 2016 Nobody is obligated to accept any debate challenge. Ya_isa (as) 1 Quote
DigitalUmmah Posted October 24, 2016 Report Posted October 24, 2016 1 hour ago, silasun said: The Californian "mujahid" with psychological issues is now defending Shi'ism? How fantastic. I would have a look at br. Al-Mufeed contributed: to be fair, he is good enough to defeat the bakris. and look around you: who from shiism stepped forward to meet the challenge? Rasul and Sirius_Bright 2 Quote
DigitalUmmah Posted October 24, 2016 Report Posted October 24, 2016 16 minutes ago, Akbar673 said: Did Nakshwani give a reason as to why he didn't accept the invite to a debate? Not that Im aware of no, but his silence was enough an answer for those looking Quote
Guest Posted October 24, 2016 Report Posted October 24, 2016 1 hour ago, silasun said: The Californian "mujahid" with psychological issues is now defending Shi'ism? How fantastic. Let's not forget that no one else stepped up to 'defend shi'ism'. Quote
Forum Administrators Reza Posted October 24, 2016 Forum Administrators Report Posted October 24, 2016 5 minutes ago, starlight said: Let's not forget that no one else stepped up to 'defend shi'ism'. Are nonstop chatter chatter debates and screaming on TV considered "defending Shiism"? This is all just a sports match for the already converted on all sides. Abu Hadi, Ya_isa (as) and Don'tMakeAس 3 Quote
Guest Posted October 24, 2016 Report Posted October 24, 2016 2 minutes ago, magma said: Are nonstop chatter chatter debates and screaming on TV considered "defending Shiism"? Well, then the same can be said for lot of discussions, many of them on Shiachat. Quote
Forum Administrators Reza Posted October 24, 2016 Forum Administrators Report Posted October 24, 2016 6 minutes ago, starlight said: Well, then the same can be said for lot of discussions, many of them on Shiachat. You're right. Quote
Veteran Member Popular Post ShiaMan14 Posted October 24, 2016 Veteran Member Popular Post Report Posted October 24, 2016 2 hours ago, DigitalUmmah said: to summarise - sayed ammar nakshawani gave a majalis about 1 2 and 3, he was pretty derogatory towards them lol. this got the sunni in an uproar so king bakri debator, asrar rashid, immediately challenged nakshawani to a face to face debate to discuss the things that nakshawani said in his majalis. nakshawani, to put it bluntly, "did an omar". as you can imagine, to the bakris, someone like nakshawani refusing to debate was basically 1000 eids all in one. twitter, facebook, whatsapp etc have been blowing up with bakris gloating how shia cannot argue against them when asked to provide proofs, all our beliefs are lies, our foremost speakers are cowards etc etc etc. sheikh allahyari has risen to the challenge, and will defeat them inshaAllah. this debate MUST take place now, to save further shia humiliation. Allahyari is good enough for them. and plus he calls sunni "followers of omar" so I might actually be in love with him 1 hour ago, Akbar673 said: Did Nakshwani give a reason as to why he didn't accept the invite to a debate? 43 minutes ago, DigitalUmmah said: Not that Im aware of no, but his silence was enough an answer for those looking Salaam brother and zirat qabool inshallah. I wouldn't tag it as SAN ran away. There could be a number of reasons for him not to engage with Sheikh Israr. For example, Imam Ali said one should not argue with an ignorant person, maybe that is why he is not engaging in this debate. I think there are brothers/sisters on ShiaChat who could just as well defeat any bakri. Praetorius, Sirius_Bright, goldenhawk and 4 others 7 Quote
DigitalUmmah Posted October 24, 2016 Report Posted October 24, 2016 2 minutes ago, shiaman14 said: Salaam brother and zirat qabool inshallah. I wouldn't tag it as SAN ran away. There could be a number of reasons for him not to engage with Sheikh Israr. For example, Imam Ali said one should not argue with an ignorant person, maybe that is why he is not engaging in this debate. I think there are brothers/sisters on ShiaChat who could just as well defeat any bakri. jazakAllah for your dua bro, and astagfirullah if I said anything wrong Quote
Development Team Popular Post Gaius I. Caesar Posted October 24, 2016 Development Team Popular Post Report Posted October 24, 2016 No, Ammar Nakshawani did an "Ali (as)" as in not replying to a fool and his foolish debate @DigitalUmmah haideriam, AhmedAbdallah, Ya_isa (as) and 3 others 6 Quote
Veteran Member Akbar673 Posted October 24, 2016 Veteran Member Report Posted October 24, 2016 is it this guy challenging Nakshwani to a debate? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgSJ6Rd9tjo&feature=youtu.be Quote
DigitalUmmah Posted October 24, 2016 Report Posted October 24, 2016 55 minutes ago, Gaius I. Caesar said: No, Ammar Nakshawani did an "Ali (as)" as in not replying to a fool and his foolish debate @DigitalUmmah He shouldnt have done the majalis in the first place if he couldnt back it up. Its the laws of any debate that any claim can be questioned, and the bakri know it Quote
Advanced Member Mohamed1993 Posted October 24, 2016 Advanced Member Report Posted October 24, 2016 I would not waste my time debating with people who have no real intention of knowing the truth! His facebook post was VERY aggressive and he wanted to have a public spectacle and the comments were even worse, calling us shias all sorts of names, from this it is clear to me his only intention is to create a public scene, not to learn the truth. I am for debating someone who wants to know the truth and is genuine about engaging in intellectual discussion, unfortunately this dude seems to be a salafi at heart, even though he claims to hate them. Ya_isa (as) 1 Quote
Advanced Member Mohamed1993 Posted October 24, 2016 Advanced Member Report Posted October 24, 2016 (edited) Btw, do you know who took his lecture on radical Islam off YouTube?? Was it Sayed himself? I learnt quite a bit from it and I can't care if it offended some butthurt sunnis, we're not here to appease them at the expense of learning more about Shiism. Edited October 24, 2016 by Mohamed1993 Gaius I. Caesar, Sirius_Bright and Ya_isa (as) 3 Quote
Forum Administrators Reza Posted October 24, 2016 Forum Administrators Report Posted October 24, 2016 25 minutes ago, DigitalUmmah said: He shouldnt have done the majalis in the first place if he couldnt back it up. Its the laws of any debate that any claim can be questioned, and the bakri know it Giving a majalis does not automatically equate to giving a debate challenge, unless it's explicitly declared. Did he do that? Quote
Advanced Member von Lohengramm Posted October 24, 2016 Advanced Member Report Posted October 24, 2016 11 minutes ago, Mohamed1993 said: Btw, do you know who took his lecture on radical Islam off YouTube?? Was it Sayed himself? I learnt quite a bit from it and I can't care if it offended some butthurt sunnis, we're not here to appease them at the expense of learning more about Shiism. It's most likely been taken down by MKSI Leicester --- the channel who put it up --- after the uproar it caused. Or maybe it was flagged down. Re-uploads of the video were taken down due to copyright, but there is one still available: Hameedeh 1 Quote
Veteran Member Akbar673 Posted October 24, 2016 Veteran Member Report Posted October 24, 2016 Has anyone done any fact checking on his Radical Islam majlis or is everyone assuming everything to be true that he said? Quote
Veteran Member Ali_Hussain Posted October 24, 2016 Veteran Member Report Posted October 24, 2016 This guy is a brelvi, there is a page on fb refuting him. Should be an interesting debate. Hameedeh 1 Quote
Advanced Member von Lohengramm Posted October 24, 2016 Advanced Member Report Posted October 24, 2016 2 minutes ago, Ali_Hussain said: This guy is a brelvi, there is a page on fb refuting him. Who are you talking about? Quote
Forum Administrators Haji 2003 Posted October 24, 2016 Forum Administrators Report Posted October 24, 2016 1 hour ago, Mohamed1993 said: Btw, do you know who took his lecture on radical Islam off YouTube?? It was on Safeer TV yesterday, I think. Quote
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