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I would like to challenge farid on here regarding his 1st three masters and his beliefs of the holy prophet (sawas). I have seen his arguments and rebuttals. they believe me, they are not strong refutations. Just because if someone writes a article or a refutation on something, then it does not mean that is right. I will rely mostly on sahih bukhari and muslim (other narration from sahih sitta will be used as well) and that should be sufficient. 

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2 minutes ago, goldenhawk said:

I would like to challenge farid on here regarding his 1st three masters. I have seen his arguments and rebuttals. they believe me, they are not strong refutations. I will rely mostly on sahih bukhari and muslim (other narration from sahih sitta will be used occasionally) and that should be sufficient. 

tag him in bro otherwise he cant see it

Guest silasun
Posted

The Californian "mujahid" with psychological issues is now defending Shi'ism? How fantastic.

I would have a look at br. Al-Mufeed contributed:

 

  • Veteran Member
Posted
32 minutes ago, silasun said:

The Californian "mujahid" with psychological issues is now defending Shi'ism? How fantastic.

I would have a look at br. Al-Mufeed contributed:

 

To be fair, allahyari offered fadak tv the chance to debate him on this issue,  they turned him down.

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Posted
1 hour ago, DigitalUmmah said:

to summarise - sayed ammar nakshawani gave a majalis about 1 2 and 3, he was pretty derogatory towards them lol.

this got the sunni in an uproar so king bakri debator, asrar rashid, immediately challenged nakshawani to a face to face debate to discuss the things that nakshawani said in his majalis. 

nakshawani, to put it bluntly, "did an omar". 

as you can imagine, to the bakris, someone like nakshawani refusing to debate was basically 1000 eids all in one. twitter, facebook, whatsapp etc have been blowing up with bakris gloating how shia cannot argue against them when asked to provide proofs, all our beliefs are lies, our foremost speakers are cowards etc etc etc. 

sheikh allahyari has risen to the challenge, and will defeat them inshaAllah. this debate MUST take place now, to save further shia humiliation. Allahyari is good enough for them. and plus he calls sunni "followers of omar" so I might actually be in love with him

Did Nakshwani give a reason as to why he didn't accept the invite to a debate?

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1 hour ago, silasun said:

The Californian "mujahid" with psychological issues is now defending Shi'ism? How fantastic.

I would have a look at br. Al-Mufeed contributed:

to be fair, he is good enough to defeat the bakris. 

and look around you: who from shiism stepped forward to meet the challenge?

Posted
16 minutes ago, Akbar673 said:

Did Nakshwani give a reason as to why he didn't accept the invite to a debate?

Not that Im aware of no, but his silence was enough an answer for those looking 

Posted
1 hour ago, silasun said:

The Californian "mujahid" with psychological issues is now defending Shi'ism? How fantastic.

Let's not forget that no one else stepped up to 'defend shi'ism'. 

  • Forum Administrators
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5 minutes ago, starlight said:

Let's not forget that no one else stepped up to 'defend shi'ism'. 

Are nonstop chatter chatter debates  and screaming on TV considered "defending Shiism"? This is all just a sports match for the already converted on all sides. 

Posted
2 minutes ago, magma said:

Are nonstop chatter chatter debates  and screaming on TV considered "defending Shiism"?

Well, then the same can be said for lot of discussions, many of them on Shiachat. 

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Posted
6 minutes ago, starlight said:

Well, then the same can be said for lot of discussions, many of them on Shiachat. 

You're right.

Posted
2 minutes ago, shiaman14 said:

Salaam brother and zirat qabool inshallah.

I wouldn't tag it as SAN ran away. There could be a number of reasons for him not to engage with Sheikh Israr. For example, Imam Ali said one should not argue with an ignorant person, maybe that is why he is not engaging in this debate.

I think there are brothers/sisters on ShiaChat who could just as well defeat any bakri.

jazakAllah for your dua bro, and astagfirullah if I said anything wrong

Posted
55 minutes ago, Gaius I. Caesar said:

No, Ammar Nakshawani did an "Ali (as)" as in not replying to a fool and his foolish debate @DigitalUmmah

He shouldnt have done the majalis in the first place if he couldnt back it up. Its the laws of any debate that any claim can be questioned, and the bakri know it

  • Advanced Member
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I would not waste my time debating with people who have no real intention of knowing the truth! His facebook post was VERY aggressive and he wanted to have a public spectacle and the comments were even worse, calling us shias all sorts of names, from this it is clear to me his only intention is to create a public scene, not to learn the truth. I am for debating someone who wants to know the truth and is genuine about engaging in intellectual discussion, unfortunately this dude seems to be a salafi at heart, even though he claims to hate them.

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Posted (edited)

Btw, do you know who took his lecture on radical Islam off YouTube?? Was it Sayed himself? I learnt quite a bit from it and I can't care if it offended some butthurt sunnis, we're not here to appease them at the expense of learning more about Shiism.

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25 minutes ago, DigitalUmmah said:

He shouldnt have done the majalis in the first place if he couldnt back it up. Its the laws of any debate that any claim can be questioned, and the bakri know it

Giving a majalis does not automatically equate to giving a debate challenge, unless it's explicitly declared. Did he do that?

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11 minutes ago, Mohamed1993 said:

Btw, do you know who took his lecture on radical Islam off YouTube?? Was it Sayed himself? I learnt quite a bit from it and I can't care if it offended some butthurt sunnis, we're not here to appease them at the expense of learning more about Shiism.

It's most likely been taken down by MKSI Leicester --- the channel who put it up --- after the uproar it caused. Or maybe it was flagged down. Re-uploads of the video were taken down due to copyright, but there is one still available: 

 

 

  • Veteran Member
Posted

Has anyone done any fact checking on his Radical Islam majlis or is everyone assuming everything to be true that he said?

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1 hour ago, Mohamed1993 said:

Btw, do you know who took his lecture on radical Islam off YouTube??

It was on Safeer TV yesterday, I think.

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