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For almost the entire course of the 20th century, unknown to the public, doctors and medical researchers have been proving in both laboratory and clinical testing that our own urine is an enormous source of vital nutrients, vitamins, hormones, enzymes and critical antibodies that cannot be duplicated or derived from any other source. They use urine for healing cancer, heart disease, allergies, auto-immune diseases, diabetes, asthma, infertility, infections, wounds and on and on — yet we’re taught that urine is a toxic waste product.

This discrepancy between the medical truth and the public information regarding urine is ludicrous and, as the news releases you’ve just read demonstrate, can mean the difference between life and death to you and to your loved ones. When I contracted a crippling, incurable disease early in life, I used every available conventional medical and alternative healing method over the course of many years without success. When an acquaintance suggested I try “urine therapy” I though she’d lost her mind, but with no options left, I swallowed my prejudice and decided to give it a go. To my own (and everyone else’s) amazement, my healing was so rapid and so profound with urine therapy that no question remained in my mind that someone in the medical community had to know more than they were telling about this incredible body substance. And as a matter of fact, they did know more – a lot more. After many months of haunting university libraries, scanning countless microfiche files and poring over piles of medical journals, I had amassed a small mountain of astounding research studies, findings and files on the use of urine in medicine and healing, I discovered, among numerous other things, that urine, far from being a toxic body waste, was actually a purified derivative of the blood made by the kidneys which contains, not body wastes, but rather an incredible array of critically important nutrients, enzymes, hormones, natural antibodies and immune defense agents. At the end of it all, as I sat tiredly in my chair eyeing the stacks of research papers covering my desk, I realized that the medical community had pulled off one of the biggest hoodwinks in history. Take for instance the doctor who reported that “urine acts as an excellent and safe natural vaccine and has been shown to cure a wide variety of disorders including hepatitis, whooping-cough, asthma, hay fever, hives, migraines, intestinal dysfunctions, etc. It is completely safe and causes no side effects.”

(J. Plesch, M.D., The Medical Press, 1947); or the oncologist who reported that “a patient with intractable ovarian cancer was treated with Human Urine Derivative and is now completely well and enjoying the rest of her life.” (Dr. M. Soeda, University of Tokyo, 1968). These remarkable findings were published in medical journals – but did you ever hear about them?

And what about the immunologist who, after extensive clinical and laboratory research stated: “It was rapidly appreciated that undiluted urine administered orally was therapeutically effective for Immune Therapy and was initiated when it became obvious that an allergic condition had become uncontrollable.” (Dr. C.W. Wilson, 1983, Law Hospital, Scotland). Or the Harvard medical researchers who discovered that active “antibodies to cholera, typhoid, diphtheria, pneumonia, polio, leptospira and salmonella have been found in the unconcentrated urine of infected individuals.”

(Lerner, Remington & Finland, Harvard Medical School, 1962). What abut the Scandinavian researcher who, in 1951, conclusively proved that human urine can completely destroy tuberculosis? It’s a deadly disease, and is now resistant to antibiotics. Isn’t it time someone told us that our own urine is medically proven to be anti-tubercule? Then there’s the research into wounds and burns using urea (the primary solid component of urine). As only one research study among many reported:

“In America, urea has been used for the treatment of various infected wounds and it has been found to be extremely efficient…even the deepest wound can be treated effectively…. Urea treatment has been successful where other treatments have failed. For external staph infections we found urea preferable to any other dressing…there are no contra-indications to its use.”

(Dr. L. Muldavis, 1938, Royal Free Hospital, London). Now these medical reports are only a few of the more than 50 research studies I compiled and published in the book Your Own Perfect Medicine, but they certainly give an indication of the importance of what we’ve never been told about urine by the medical community. As far back as 1954, the Journal of the American Medical Association (July issue) reported that “More scientific papers have probably been published on urine than on any other organic compound.” Another publication revealed that “more than 1,000 technical and scientific papers, related only to low molecular weight substances in urine, appeared in medical and scientific literature in one single year.” All this fuss about a substance that we’re told is nothing more than a body waste? I think one of the most interesting pieces of information on urine I came across was the fact that the amniotic fluid that surrounds human infants in the womb is primarily urine. Actually, the infant “breathes in” urine-filled amniotic fluid continually, and without this fluid, the lungs don’t develop. Doctors also believe that the softness of baby skin and the ability of in-utero infants to heal quickly without scarring after pre-birth surgery is due to the therapeutic properties of the urine-filled amniotic fluid. Reports on the extraordinary external benefits of urine abound as well. Medical studies relate remarkable cases of stubborn or “incurable” chronic, severe eczema that miraculously disappear with urine therapy.

Because urine is both anti-viral and anti-bacterial, it’s ideal for treating cuts, wounds and abrasions of all kinds. Acne, rashes, athlete’s foot and fungal skin problems respond dramatically to urine soaks and compresses as well. (You’ll find complete instructions for using urine therapy internally and externally in Your Own Perfect Medicine.) For home use or emergency treatment care for wounds, poisonous bites or stings, and even broken bones, urine is an incomparable, proven natural healing agent that provides instantaneous therapeutic benefits under any circumstances. For years, people have said to me, “Well, I have heard of people surviving by ingesting their own urine, but I thought it was just a myth.” Myth it isn’t.

Medical fact it is. As Dr. John R. Herman remarked in his article which appeared in the New York State Journal of Medicine in June, 1980: “Auto-uropathy (urine therapy) did flourish in many parts of the world and continues to flourish today….there is unknown to most of us, a wide usage of uropathy and a great volume of knowledge available showing the multitudinous advantages of this modality. Actually, the listed constituents of human urine can be carefully checked and no items not found in human diet are found in it. Percentages differ, but urinary constituents are valuable to human metabolism.”

http://all-natural.com/natural-remedies/urine/

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Clearing Up the Misconceptions

medical researchers at the University of California at Berkeley who in 1982 reported they had discovered that “uric acid destroys body-damaging, cancer-causing free radicals and is considered to be one of the physiological factors that enable human beings to live so much longer than other mammals.”

medical researchers discovered many decades ago that urea, far from being a toxic body waste, is an incredibly versatile, far-reaching and effective medicinal agent. In numerous medical studies, it was shown that urea is one of the most potent non-toxic virucidal agents ever discovered. In one particular study, the rabies and polio virus [sic] were killed so quickly and efficiently by concentrated urea, that even the laconic researchers themselves were surprised:

  “Urea is such a relatively inactive substance and certainly not a protoplasmic poison such as are most virucidal agents, that it is in a way surprising that rabies and poliomyelitis are killed so easily by urea solutions” (McKay & Schroeder, Society of Experimental Biology, 1936).

In reality, Urea is an FDA-approved medicinal agent that doctors and researchers utilize in an amazing variety of therapeutic modalities. Because of its remarkable and comprehensive anti-neoplastic (anti-tumor) properties, it’s presently being used in anti-cancer drugs and is extensively studied for use in cancer treatments.

The urea compound drug, glicazide, is used successfully by the medical establishment in treating both insulin-dependent and non-insulin-dependent diabetics. As a natural diuretic, urea is unparalleled, and is a proven and accepted treatment in cases of edema or swelling such as excess cerebral and spinal pressure, glaucoma, epilepsy, meningitis, even premenstrual edema and many other disorders in which excess fluid is a problem.

As one American neurosurgeon reported regarding a patient who nearly died form complications following brain surgery: “Urea was administered intravenously as an emergency measure. Within 20 minutes from the start of injection, her blood pressure had returned to normal….from this time on her recovery was uneventful. In this case, urea was definitely life-saving, because prior to its administration, the patient’s survival was unlikely. In many similar instances urea was found to be life-saving” (Dr. M. Javid, University of Wisconsin).

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6 minutes ago, starlight said:

Sorry, I didn't read the whole post. but if urine was that good for us why did Allah swt made a system for us to get rid of it? 

I urge you to read it as it is very informative, cause you hear people ridiculing us for that Hadith, but from this small post and article you can easily refute them. All these benefits only made known to us recently.... It is used in drugs etc 

 

The medical findings on urine and urine constituents are overwhelming, and yet it’s difficult for most people to understand why our bodies excrete elements that are so obviously valuable to human health and well-being.

The commonly-asked question, “If your urine is so good for you, why does your body excrete it?”

is best answered by looking into how our kidneys function. As your blood moves through the circulatory system, it flows through the kidneys at a rate of about 1200 ml of blood per minute. Inside the kidneys, the blood is continuously filtered through a huge system of minute tubules called nephron which sift out excess water, vitamins, minerals, enzymes, salts, and hundreds of other elements including vital antibodies, urea and uric acid. A large portion of these key physiological elements are reabsorbed into the bloodstream, but a certain amount of critical blood constituents are pooled by the kidney into a liquid which doctors refer to as a “plasma ultrafiltrate” (we call it urine).

Much of this sterile, nutrient filled ultrafiltrate, or urine, is reabsorbed and some remains in the kidney for a period of time and is eventually released into a tube called the urethra which empties the urine into the bladder where it is finally excreted. Now you’re probably wondering why the body excretes valuable nutrients, water, hormones, enzymes, etc. that are critical to body functioning. Doesn’t it make more sense to retain these elements? If urine is a collection of such life-sustaining elements, why does the body get rid of it? The answer is that the kidneys excrete a portion of urine as a way of removing certain key elements in your blood that are simply not needed at a specific point in time. For instance, you’ve just been out jogging. You come home and have one or two big glasses of water to drink.

Now at this point you’ve probably taken in more water than your body actually needs. But not to worry — your kidneys will balance the amount of water delivered into your bloodstream by your copious water drinking and through the urine will excrete whatever amount of water from the blood that isn’t needed at the time. Now water is certainly a life-sustaining element the body cannot do without. So why is it excreted from the body? The answer is obvious. There are times when there’s too much water in your system and it needs to be excreted. It’s a physiological fact that in order for us to function normally, the amounts or concentrations of every element in our blood must be carefully and strictly controlled and this is done by the kidneys. Too much water in the blood is fatal. Too much salt in the blood is deadly. As wonderful a nutrient as vitamin C is, too high a concentration of it or any nutrient could kill you. This is why the kidneys excrete valuable elements from the body — too much of any good thing isn’t good for your health. The same is true of urea. People who have heard of uremic poisoning are surprised when they read the medical research showing urea to be a widely-used, FDA-approved medicine. But just like any other element in the blood, urea only becomes dangerous to the body when the kidneys are damaged or diseased and can’t properly balance the amount of urea (and all other substances) in the bloodstream.

Your kidneys aren’t doing damage to your body by getting rid of particular excess nutrients, they’re just simply excreting the precise amount not presently needed by your body at a given time. And the same goes for practically every nutrient, enzyme, hormone, antibody, etc. that are critical to your survival — the kidneys keep what your body needs at a certain time, and excretes what it isn’t momentarily using into your urine. 

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12 minutes ago, starlight said:

Sorry, I didn't read the whole post. but if urine was that good for us why did Allah swt made a system for us to get rid of it? 

The OP may have been confused, we have never been advised to drink human urine as far as I know.

Some narrations, even authentic ones if I remember correctly, talk about drinking camel urine.

This is the position of Sayyed Al-Sistani (HA) -

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2636. It is haraam to drink the urine of all haraam animals, and also of those whose meat is halal to eat, including, as an obligatory precaution, that of a camel. However, the urine of a camel, a cow or a sheep can be consumed, if recommended for any medical treatment.

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I see a lot of flaws with the points stated in the opening post but we can just skip discussing those since they are about human urine whereas the hadith is about camel urine.

1. Antiplatelet activity

Camel urine has potent antiplatelet activity against ADP-induced (clopidogrel-like) and AA-induced (aspirin-like) platelet aggregation; neither human nor bovine urine exhibited such properties.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21854200

2.Antifungal properties

The high antifungal activity of camel urine International Journal of Agriculture,reflected on inhibition of mycelial growth of tested fungi, this result agreed with Al-Judaibi, (2010) who found that camel urine inhibit the growth of Aspergillus niger and Candid albicans compared with the antifungal agents mycostatin. Mycelial growth, sporulation, and spore germination.

http://ijafp.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/AG6.pdf

Candida albicans is a pathogen that also effects humans too.

3. Anti bacterial properties

The results of the present study aimed to assess the antibacterial effect of camels urine, as our study divided into two lines. In the systemic infection, the results reported in the (Table 1) indicated that the first one treated with urine recovered after 15 hr, while the second group treated with gentamicin recovered after 24 hr, and the third group treated with saline recovered after 96h, after that taken feaceses of rabbits in the first one, culturing on brain heart infusion agar to confirmed that cases were healed by using urine, that showing no growth of E.coli on the plates .

http://www.iasj.net/iasj?func=fulltext&aId=93074

4. Anti Cancer properties

 CU has specific and efficient anti-cancer and potent immune-modulator properties in vitro. Camel urine showed cytotoxicity against various, but not all, human cancer cell lines, with only marginal effect on non-tumorigenic epithelial and normal fibroblast cells epithelial and fibroblast cells.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0378874112005235

5. Antiallergic properties

According to the literature of the Iranian traditional medicine, camel urine has anti-cholinergic properties and could be used for Bronchodilation. Furthermore, it has anti-allergic agents and could cause apoptosis and cancer cell death through increasing the inhibition of two apoptosis protein inhibitors of survivin and Bcl-2.

http://web.b.ebscohost.com/abstract?direct

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The only school that considers the urine of Halal Animals as 'najis' is that of the Hanafi school. As for Malik, Shafee, and Ahmad they all agree with the Shia school that the urine of halal animals is tahir.

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If human urine is so ' pure and healthy ' , then why do we Muslims have to wash our private parts after urinating and are not allowed to even pray in clothing that has urine on it ? Their maybe a hadith about camel urine but obviously their must be a context to it , human excretion is poison 

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@starlight excellent post thanks 

 

@rinneganMahdi I was trying to start a topic in response to all these self proclaimed intellectuals and secularists who ridicule our religion and hadiths like these. I was trying to show they have no problem drinking urine and making medications from them so how dare they make fun of this Hadith. Had nothing to do with me agreeing with that whole subject. 

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26 minutes ago, rinneganMahdi said:

If human urine is so ' pure and healthy ' , then why do we Muslims have to wash our private parts after urinating and are not allowed to even pray in clothing that has urine on it ? Their maybe a hadith about camel urine but obviously their must be a context to it , human excretion is poison 

But the same arguments can be given for blood too, it's not najis as long as it's inside our bodies. We have a quiet a few blood derived medicines. I am not disagreeing with what you said, just saying that this is not a good enough argument to give to people who believe oral intake of urine is beneficial. 

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من حديث أنس بن مالك قال قدم رهط من عرينة وعكل على النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم، فاجتووا المدينة، فشكوا ذلك إلى النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم

فقال: "لو خرجتم إلى إبل الصدقة فشربتم من أبوالها وألبانها"

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I'll have to post on this later. The op doesn't really reference research. The next person who posted had some research but...well the one research paper was in reference to studies performed in Petri dishes. Urine may inhibit certain bacteria growth in a dish but it's not exactly the best reference when discussing something consumed.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1319562X15001965

here is a document that breaks down the constituents of urine and again references affects in vitro, but I also see compounds in there like ammonia, arsenic and mercury among others that can be harmful to us.

so I would ask, for people promoting the consumption of camel urine, how much or how little is good for us, and where and why you might choose that amount.

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من حديث أنس بن مالك قال قدم رهط من عرينة وعكل على النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم، فاجتووا المدينة، فشكوا ذلك إلى النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم

فقال: "لو خرجتم إلى إبل الصدقة فشربتم من أبوالها وألبانها"

 

From the narrations attributed to Anas bin Malik:

A group of people from Uraina and Ukal came to visit the Prophet صلى الله عليه وآله but they could not adjust to the climate of Medina. When they raised their concerns to the Prophet صلى الله عليه وآله he advised them: "Try and go to the sadaqa camels and drink from their urine and milk."

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The anti fungal document was in relation to fungus attacking tomatoes. The 

On October 22, 2016 at 10:41 AM, starlight said:

I see a lot of flaws with the points stated in the opening post but we can just skip discussing those since they are about human urine whereas the hadith is about camel urine.

1. Antiplatelet activity

Camel urine has potent antiplatelet activity against ADP-induced (clopidogrel-like) and AA-induced (aspirin-like) platelet aggregation; neither human nor bovine urine exhibited such properties.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21854200

2.Antifungal properties

The high antifungal activity of camel urine International Journal of Agriculture,reflected on inhibition of mycelial growth of tested fungi, this result agreed with Al-Judaibi, (2010) who found that camel urine inhibit the growth of Aspergillus niger and Candid albicans compared with the antifungal agents mycostatin. Mycelial growth, sporulation, and spore germination.

http://ijafp.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/AG6.pdf

Candida albicans is a pathogen that also effects humans too.

3. Anti bacterial properties

The results of the present study aimed to assess the antibacterial effect of camels urine, as our study divided into two lines. In the systemic infection, the results reported in the (Table 1) indicated that the first one treated with urine recovered after 15 hr, while the second group treated with gentamicin recovered after 24 hr, and the third group treated with saline recovered after 96h, after that taken feaceses of rabbits in the first one, culturing on brain heart infusion agar to confirmed that cases were healed by using urine, that showing no growth of E.coli on the plates .

http://www.iasj.net/iasj?func=fulltext&aId=93074

4. Anti Cancer properties

 CU has specific and efficient anti-cancer and potent immune-modulator properties in vitro. Camel urine showed cytotoxicity against various, but not all, human cancer cell lines, with only marginal effect on non-tumorigenic epithelial and normal fibroblast cells epithelial and fibroblast cells.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0378874112005235

5. Antiallergic properties

According to the literature of the Iranian traditional medicine, camel urine has anti-cholinergic properties and could be used for Bronchodilation. Furthermore, it has anti-allergic agents and could cause apoptosis and cancer cell death through increasing the inhibition of two apoptosis protein inhibitors of survivin and Bcl-2.

http://web.b.ebscohost.com/abstract?direct

@Ya_isa (as)

 

For starlight.

ill go in reverse here. #5 was just an abstract so I couldn't get much from it.

#3 was vague and hardly conclusive of anything at all. The paper had a lot number of test subjects and it didn't discuss how urine would or could be utilized by people. 

#2 was in relegation to fungal attacks on tomatoes.

 

 

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#4 looked interesting but the Prophet pbuh did not state to inject camel urine into the bloodstream and beyond that the document is in relation to in vitro testing and doesn't appear to discuss material beyond that.

the OP should give more for the case. I guess I'll leave my posts at that.

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3 minutes ago, iCambrian said:

2 was in relegation to fungal attacks on tomatoes

Which fungus? candida albicans...right? I did state that it affects humans too, infact the predominant fungal infections in humans are candidiasis.

Have you heard of 'pre-clinical testing'? It's a stage in the series of development of new drugs where compounds are tested on tissue cultures (in vitro) and on animals to see how they compounds behave. 

4 hours ago, iCambrian said:

well the one research paper was in reference to studies performed in Petri dishes

err... How was penicillin discovered and developed? In petri dishes. 

In the 17th century people were using mouldy bread to treat infected wounds, I am sure there were people who made fun of that too. 

 

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