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35 minutes ago, maryam amiri said:

just wanted to know what is a proper way to cover your self . for example can i wear flipflops or how short or long my sleeves have to be ? 

According to hadith, all of a woman's body should be covered "except that which must show", i. e. face and hands. As for feet, better either ask your marja or other trusted scholar, or err on the side of caution and cover them. 

 

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The real Hijab for women is to acknowledge her moral responsibility, many people think you buy a scarf and put it on your head and you become a modest woman, no its not like that; it is about responsibility and balance in the society wherein both genders carry a certain obligation under Islam ,  and even for us we also have this responsibility as in how we should treat women in all walks of life.

 

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Salam,

I always dislike that a symbol of "modesty" in Islam is something so shallow as covering one's head, and that god will judge someone by how they dress and if they cover their hair or not . . . 

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8 minutes ago, Sawa said:

Salam,

I always dislike that a symbol of "modesty" in Islam is something so shallow as covering one's head, and that god will judge someone by how they dress and if they cover their hair or not . . . 

Allah swt will not judge us on if we cover our hair or not. We will be judged on whether we followed what he ordered us to do or not. 

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Actually it depends from marja to marja. Some marjas say covering the face and hands is obligatory, for example.

If your marja is Sistani - then if it wajib upon you to cover your head and your body - in a way which does not reveal your private parts (loose not tight).

As far as make-up, this is also a dispute between the scholars. According to Sayyed Al-Sistani, kohl or mascara is allowed for a woman.

As far as clothing colour, shape etc... it all depends on whether that clothing is considered "zeena". And it depends on urf. So for example, 1000 years it would be rare for a woman in Mecca to wear pink clothes. That may have been considered zeena.

 

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On 12 September 2016 at 8:57 PM, The Batman said:

Actually it depends from marja to marja. Some marjas say covering the face and hands is obligatory, for example.

If your marja is Sistani - then if it wajib upon you to cover your head and your body - in a way which does not reveal your private parts (loose not tight).

As far as make-up, this is also a dispute between the scholars. According to Sayyed Al-Sistani, kohl or mascara is allowed for a woman.

As far as clothing colour, shape etc... it all depends on whether that clothing is considered "zeena". And it depends on urf. So for example, 1000 years it would be rare for a woman in Mecca to wear pink clothes. That may have been considered zeena.

 

How come Sayed Sistani allows kohl and mascara, is mascara not part of make up?

so why am I not allowed to apply foundation but allowed to apply mascara??

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1 hour ago, y.amine said:

How come Sayed Sistani allows kohl and mascara, is mascara not part of make up?

so why am I not allowed to apply foundation but allowed to apply mascara??

I think kohl is allowed because it has been used for centuries to protect the eyes from the glare of the sun. Mascara, if allowed, might be considered a modern form of kohl. I think in some circumstances, foundation can be worn. It can be used to cover blemishes or even skin tone, but not if it's purpose is adornment. Check that though - I think rulings of marjae vary.

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6 hours ago, y.amine said:

How come Sayed Sistani allows kohl and mascara, is mascara not part of make up?

so why am I not allowed to apply foundation but allowed to apply mascara??

That's the fatwa of the Sayyed. If you want, apply mascara although in my opinion it is better not to. And foundation - no.

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There are some women who made up their own rules on what proper hijab is to harass other sisters.

For example, Hijab can not be red or pink but only green, blue, white or black, while some insists only white or black.

Some women say hijab can not have flower print or any markings or designs.

Some say, your neck can not show, or even a few strands of hair from front or side can not be shown, etc etc.

There are so many ways of tying hijab but some women is allowing only the shape of tent.

This hair splitting, nit picking behavior to attack sisters is more problematic by breaking the peace in Muslim community.

We should be more accepting, tolerating and loving attitude with one another.

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On 26/09/2016 at 6:24 AM, ema said:

There are some women who made up their own rules on what proper hijab is to harass other sisters.

For example, Hijab can not be red or pink but only green, blue, white or black, while some insists only white or black.

Some women say hijab can not have flower print or any markings or designs.

Some say, your neck can not show, or even a few strands of hair from front or side can not be shown, etc etc.

There are so many ways of tying hijab but some women is allowing only the shape of tent.

This hair splitting, nit picking behavior to attack sisters is more problematic by breaking the peace in Muslim community.

We should be more accepting, tolerating and loving attitude with one another.

While I agree that imposing unecessary restrictions based on the colour or design of the hijab is ridiculous, and we need to be careful about being judgmental, it is also dangerous to go too far with the 'accepting', 'tolerant' attitude. To be loving is to want the best for someone, and there is nothing wrong with advising women on correct hijab (although of course this needs to be done in a correct way). If on the other hand, we just say that anything goes, and it's all the same, what you will see is looser and looser hijab, until it just disappears all together.

Wearing a pink hijab and showing strands of hair are not in the same category at all. Ideally all the hair should be covered (although of course it can happen that some strands 'escape' during the day), and the neck should be covered as well.

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4 hours ago, Haydar Husayn said:

While I agree that imposing unecessary restrictions based on the colour or design of the hijab is ridiculous, and we need to be careful about being judgmental, it is also dangerous to go too far with the 'accepting', 'tolerant' attitude. To be loving is to want the best for someone, and there is nothing wrong with advising women on correct hijab (although of course this needs to be done in a correct way). If on the other hand, we just say that anything goes, and it's all the same, what you will see is looser and looser hijab, until it just disappears all together.

Wearing a pink hijab and showing strands of hair are not in the same category at all. Ideally all the hair should be covered (although of course it can happen that some strands 'escape' during the day), and the neck should be covered as well.

The point is who decides what the "correct" hijab in the "correct" way is. You? The majority? The most powerful cleric? Even the extremists think they are just right, as well as the loose people. And who should decide what is the best for others? Some women develop rashes on their neck due to sweats. So they want to have air coming on their skin to breath. There is nothing clear in hadith or Quran that justifies forcing other women to cover her neck. It is between Allah and her. We don't have any business becoming a volunteer, self-rightious sharia police. We should worry more about our own conducts and life styles.

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4 minutes ago, ema said:

The point is who decides what the "correct" hijab in the "correct" way is. You? The majority? The most powerful cleric? Even the extremists think they are just right, as well as the loose people. And who should decide what is the best for others? Some women develop rashes on their neck due to sweats. So they want to have air coming on their skin to breath. There is nothing clear in hadith or Quran that justifies forcing other women to cover her neck. It is between Allah and her. We don't have any business becoming a volunteer, self-rightious sharia police. We should worry more about our own conducts and life styles.

I'm not advocating forcing anyone to do anything. I see plenty of Muslim women who cover their hair, but not their neck. I don't go up to them in the street and tell them that they are sinning. However, I'm not going to pretend that this is an equally valid method of hijab, and when advising my family or those who ask my opinion, I would tell them that.

I don't think anyone here is suggesting there be a volunteer 'sharia police'. I presume most people are talking about advising those we have responsibility over, or who we are in a position of influencing.

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Yes, It is good to be a role model and good example for others without pushing our own standard onto other women. Unfortunately, some people become self-appointed sharia police and make others flee from Islam altogether. So we must be humble enough so not to harass other women that way. There are many things we must work on ourselves first.

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