How to prove ismaili false

[Qasim_Husayn]

https://ismailignosis.com/2016/07/09/the-aga-khans-direct-descent-from-prophet-muhammad-historical-proof/

 

Can someone give me evidence why imam Muda khadim is the sucessor of Imam jafar sadiq. Can we give enough evidence to convince ismaili. 

[TAJODDIN]

1. In His name

Salam;

    After Imam al- Kazim died, the Shia community separated into different branches. Indeed, some of them were deviated from the direct path. Through the following link you will get the evidences for Imamate and successorship of Imam al- Kazim in Arabic, Turkish, Polish, Russian and Urdo. You can also see the quality of establishment and the origin of Isma'iliyya sect and see the reasons caused Shias to doubt Imamate of Imam al- Kazim.  Unfortunately, the English one is not available. If not familiar with any abovementioned languages, please inform me to give you detailed answer in English.

• islamquest.net/ar/archive/question/fa5283

    Also there is another link concerning the narrations related to successorship of Ismail ibn al- Kazim so that some Shias thought that he was the successor of Imam al- Kazim. These narrations were analyzed and answered in Arabic too.

• http://www.islamquest.net/ar/archive/question/fa7838

    There is another link you can get much knowledge and information about Imam al- Kazim including the Designation (Nass) of (Imam Musa) for the Imamate by his Father.

• http://www.imamreza.net/eng/imamreza.php?id=407

 

with best regard

[Qasim_Husayn]

Can you give me an answer in english 

[TAJODDIN]

salam;

Would you please tell me what you are looking for exactly? Signs, evidences and designations for Imamate of Imam Kazim? In the last link you can find them.

[Qasim_Husayn]

https://ismailignosis.com/2014/10/02/who-succeeded-imam-jafar-al-sadiq-seven-proofs-for-the-imamat-of-imam-ismail-ibn-jafar/

 

Proof #1: Imām Ja‘far designated Mawlānā Ismā‘īl as the next Imam by the rule of nass as per Twelver, Ismaili, Sunni and academic sources.

Proof #2: The only way to deny the nass of Mawlānā Isma‘il is through contradictory hadithspresented in later Twelver hadith books.

Proof #3: Isma‘il’s death before Imam Ja‘far is not confirmed and may have been staged to protect him — as he was reportedly seen by eyewitnesses after his alleged death.

Proof #4: Even if Isma‘il had died before his father, the Imamat continued in Isma‘il’s son, Muhammad ibn Isma‘il, whom Isma‘il had appointed as his own successor.

Proof #5: Earliest Shi‘i hadiths lack the mention of Twelve Imams but instead predict exactly the first eighteen Imams in the Isma‘ili lineage of Imamat.

Proof #6: With the exception of the Nizari Ismaili Imamat, all other Shi‘i Imamat lineages have hidden Imams. This contradicts the Qur’anic definition of Imamat which requires the Imam always be present and manifest (mubin) in the world.

Proof #7: Imam Shah Karim al-Husayni Aga Khan IV is the forty-ninth hereditary Imam of Shi‘i Islam in direct, documented, lineal descent from Mawlana Isma‘il ibn Ja‘far al-Sadiq. As the only present (hadir), manifest (mubin) and living (mawjud) hereditary Imam, with a documented and validated lineage, Imam Shah Karim al-Husayni’s very existence is itself confirmation of his Imamat and that of his ancestors.

I want you to refute this article. I also want you to prevent neutral sources and overwhelming proofs that prove that Musa Khadim was the sucessor of Ima jafar sadiq. 

Edited September 12, 2016 by Qasim_Husayn

[yarahmadian]

Hello dear.

The real Shia follows and considers 12 Imams as the real successors of Prophet Mohammad.

The pillars and principles of the Shia religion are belief in divine unity (tawhid), divine justice (adl), prophecy (nubuwwah), Imamat and resurrection (ma'ad). Shia believes in the leadership of the twelve infallible Imams (a.s.) as the successors of the Prophet of Islam (pbuh) the first of them being Ali (a.s.) and the last one Mahdi (may Allah hasten his reappearance).

 

In the traditions narrated from the Holy Prophet of Islam the number and names of the twelve Infallible Imams (a.s.) have been mentioned.

 

One day Abdullah bin Mas’ud was sitting in a gathering of people when a nomad Arab came over and asked: “Which one of you is Abdullah bin Mas’ud?”

 

Abdullah answered: “I am.”

 

Arab nomad: “Did your Prophet inform you about the number of his successor?”

 

Abdullah bin Mas’ud: “Yes, he did, they are twelve caliphs, (like) the number of the Chiefs of Bani Israel.”[1]

 

[1] - Khesal, p.467

 

http://www.islamportal.net/question/why-shia-best-religion‎

[TAJODDIN]

On ‏۲۲‏/‏۰۶‏/‏۱۳۹۵ at 7:52 AM, Qasim_Husayn said:

https://ismailignosis.com/2014/10/02/who-succeeded-imam-jafar-al-sadiq-seven-proofs-for-the-imamat-of-imam-ismail-ibn-jafar/

 

Proof #1: Imām Ja‘far designated Mawlānā Ismā‘īl as the next Imam by the rule of nass as per Twelver, Ismaili, Sunni and academic sources.

Proof #2: The only way to deny the nass of Mawlānā Isma‘il is through contradictory hadithspresented in later Twelver hadith books.

Proof #3: Isma‘il’s death before Imam Ja‘far is not confirmed and may have been staged to protect him — as he was reportedly seen by eyewitnesses after his alleged death.

Proof #4: Even if Isma‘il had died before his father, the Imamat continued in Isma‘il’s son, Muhammad ibn Isma‘il, whom Isma‘il had appointed as his own successor.

Proof #5: Earliest Shi‘i hadiths lack the mention of Twelve Imams but instead predict exactly the first eighteen Imams in the Isma‘ili lineage of Imamat.

Proof #6: With the exception of the Nizari Ismaili Imamat, all other Shi‘i Imamat lineages have hidden Imams. This contradicts the Qur’anic definition of Imamat which requires the Imam always be present and manifest (mubin) in the world.

Proof #7: Imam Shah Karim al-Husayni Aga Khan IV is the forty-ninth hereditary Imam of Shi‘i Islam in direct, documented, lineal descent from Mawlana Isma‘il ibn Ja‘far al-Sadiq. As the only present (hadir), manifest (mubin) and living (mawjud) hereditary Imam, with a documented and validated lineage, Imam Shah Karim al-Husayni’s very existence is itself confirmation of his Imamat and that of his ancestors.

I want you to refute this article. I also want you to prevent neutral sources and overwhelming proofs that prove that Musa Khadim was the sucessor of Ima jafar sadiq. 

Salam;

1. Why should I have to prevent and remove the evidences and proofs and sources that Musa Khadim was the successor of Imam Jafar Sadiq? if you don not want to accept and confirm these proofs, you have to reject them by argument not with no reasons in a discriminatory way.

2. Every one can claim Imamate and some people gather around him. firstly, we have to notice that 'Isma'il died before his father; so how can he be 'Imam? From the other side, 'Imam Sadiq asked his followers to gather to show that 'Isma'il has died and he was not 'Imam.

3. A very important point here is that the narrations which indicate the number of 'Imams after the prophet Muhammad (12 'Imams with their names) were available even now, so how you claim that 'Isma'il was truly Imam?

4. 'Imam is a person who is infallible, has divine knowledge and can offer miracle if necessary.

which one of your 'Imams is qualified in such ways?

Have you ever referred to those links I had introduced to you? have you ever read them?