why do we sacrifice a sheep on every Eid Adha ?

[sakura1994]

first wanna ask if shia have Eid adha on same day as sunnis in 12 septamber ? , second Eid Mubarak 

third , what's is the moral behind sacrificing animal ? I know the Ismael/abrham story , but I don't understand why have to keep carrying on this tradition of slaughtering an animal every Eid ?

 

also muslims of india always get in trouble with the hindus and it create hatred among both communities when muslims slaughter cows in Eid al adha , should muslims take hindus feeling into consideration and not kill cows !! 

as for this practice is it sunnah or fard ! 

Edited September 5, 2016 by sakura1994

[Gaius I. Caesar]

Apparently, we're having a day earlier this year but don't quote me on that. Secondly, I know that I am going to sound like a real jerk but Hindus need to avoid the places where we slaughter our cows and stop instigating some of the fitnah in India. I get the cows are sacred symbols to them, but as long as there are Muslims in India, cows, chickens and lambs will continue to be eaten there.

 

Edited September 5, 2016 by Gaius I. Caesar

[Haji 2003]

32 minutes ago, sakura1994 said:

I don't understand why have to keep carrying on this tradition of slaughtering an animal every Eid ?

You mean slaughtered like this:

 

 

[Spiritual]

41 minutes ago, sakura1994 said:

what's is the moral behind sacrificing animal ? I know the Ismael/abrham story , but I don't understand why have to keep carrying on this tradition of slaughtering an animal every Eid ?

It is the sunnah of Prophet Ibrahim (a.s) and a wajib for all those who perform Hajj. Other non-haji Muslims do this sacrifice in remembrance of that event. Although we all should remember that Prophet Ibrahim (a.s) was scarifying in the way of Allah, his beloved thing i.e., his son. Therefore the same willingness should be present in ourselves, to scarify our beloved things in the way of Allah.

 لَن تَنَالُواْ الْبِرَّ حَتَّى تُنفِقُواْ مِمَّا تُحِبُّونَ
(3:92
"By no means shall you attain to righteousness until you spend out of what you love"

[sakura1994]

1 hour ago, Haji 2003 said:

You mean slaughtered like this:

 I am talking about Cow slaughter ! , hindus worship cows not goats !

[Ali al-Abdullah]

1 hour ago, sakura1994 said:

 I am talking about Cow slaughter ! , hindus worship cows not goats !

They worship a lot of things.

[Abbas.]

3 hours ago, sakura1994 said:

first wanna ask if shia have Eid adha on same day as sunnis in 12 septamber ? , second Eid Mubarak 

third , what's is the moral behind sacrificing animal ? I know the Ismael/abrham story , but I don't understand why have to keep carrying on this tradition of slaughtering an animal every Eid ?

 

also muslims of india always get in trouble with the hindus and it create hatred among both communities when muslims slaughter cows in Eid al adha , should muslims take hindus feeling into consideration and not kill cows !! 

as for this practice is it sunnah or fard ! 

Moral behind sacrificing animal: It is a reminder that you have no right to take the life of a creature of God except when permitted. It is a ritual that sets a precedent and a permission for Muslims to sacrifice halal animals in the name of God and distribute them to the needy human beings. On the day of celebration (the Eid), all will stand equal and metaphorically enjoy the luxury accessed by a few (worldwide) in normal circumstances. 

Muslims of India: It is my humble opinion that Muslims of India should be mindful of the sensitivities pertaining to the dominant religion of their location. If cows or any other animal for that matter are viewed as sacred by the majority, the minority Muslim view should respect it. 

Status of Sacrifice: According to my limited knowledge, it is an obligation on those who can afford it. It is not an obligation on those who cannot afford it. This is where the grey area begins. That is, I am of the humble opinion that it is not compulsory for me to sacrifice an animal in the name of God so long as I deem it necessary to financially support my relatives, friends and other needy Muslims or non-Muslims. In other words, I am not reasonably convinced with the idea that sacrifice of an animal is compulsory in a 'global village' in which humans are in dire need of other basic necessities. I am open to counter arguments and in fact look forward to guidance from scholars in this regard. I still pay my debt in this regard. It's just that I am not reasonably convinced with the argument. May God increase my knowledge. 

[sakura1994]

2 hours ago, Ali al-Abdullah said:

They worship a lot of things.

I know but hindus mainly fight Muslims because of cow cuz it's sacred to them .. I think muslims should stick to sheep or goat sacrifice cuz cow might increase the hate among the communities , it's just like how christans should refer from eating pigs in muslim countries , right !

[Ali al-Abdullah]

23 minutes ago, sakura1994 said:

I know but hindus mainly fight Muslims because of cow cuz it's sacred to them .. I think muslims should stick to sheep or goat sacrifice cuz cow might increase the hate among the communities , it's just like how christans should refer from eating pigs in muslim countries , right !

We eat what we want. Come on now. We have to compromise our belief for them?

[Qa'im]

So McDonalds, Burger King, KFC, and other mega fastfood chains probably slaughter billions of animals every week, but people talk about about Eid every year ...

The entire ritual of Hajj is one focused on sacrifice. The shaven heads, the wearing of burial shrouds (ihram), the commemoration of Abraham and Hagar, and the final sacrifice of the animal. These are all important symbols that we belong fully to God, and that our lives are in His hand. Animal sacrifice is a sacrifice of your own ego and your lower, animalistic self. At the end of Hajj, you come out sinless, which is a rebirth after the sacrifice.

[mesbah]

40 minutes ago, Abbas. said:

Status of Sacrifice: According to my limited knowledge, it is an obligation on those who can afford it. It is not an obligation on those who cannot afford it. This is where the grey area begins. That is, I am of the humble opinion that it is not compulsory for me to sacrifice an animal in the name of God so long as I deem it necessary to financially support my relatives, friends and other needy Muslims or non-Muslims. In other words, I am not reasonably convinced with the idea that sacrifice of an animal is compulsory in a 'global village' in which humans are in dire need of other basic necessities. I am open to counter arguments and in fact look forward to guidance from scholars in this regard. I still pay my debt in this regard. It's just that I am not reasonably convinced with the argument. May God increase my knowledge. 

 

W Salam

Sacrifice is not obligatory out of Hajj.

Global needs and shortcomings do not negate local needs. I mean you can't say "people are dying of starvation somewhere in Africa,  so I shouldn't help my neighbor with a better meal tonight."

Global village was a great idea only if it could help with the just and equal distribution of wealth and welfare to all people. But as sad as it is, after the so called global village, the distance between the poor and the rich has become even wider. The concept of Global village is there only to justify the media and political hegemony of some mighty countries. 

[Ibn Al-Ja'abi]

1 minute ago, Qa'im said:

So McDonalds, Burger King, KFC, and other mega fastfood chains probably slaughter billions of animals every week, but people talk about about Eid every year ...

The entire ritual of Hajj is one focused on sacrifice. The shaven heads, the wearing of burial shrouds (ihram), the commemoration of Abraham and Hagar, and the final sacrifice of the animal. These are all important symbols that we belong fully to God, and that our lives are in His hand. Animal sacrifice is a sacrifice of your own ego and your lower, animalistic self. At the end of Hajj, you come out sinless, which is a rebirth after the sacrifice.

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
السلام عليكم

People have a lack of respect for symbols and motifs.

والسلام

[sakura1994]

1 hour ago, Ali al-Abdullah said:

We eat what we want. Come on now. We have to compromise our belief for them?

would you allow christans in Iran or saudi arabia to eat/slaughter/raise pigs and open stores and sell pork !

 

I am not saying that we compromise our beliefs for them but can't we give up cow meat for more tolerant and peace among the two communities , specially when it's not a must to slaughter a cow in islam and this have been an issue among those two communities in that country .

[Abbas.]

25 minutes ago, mesbah said:

Global needs and shortcomings do not negate local needs. I mean you can't say "people are dying of starvation somewhere in Africa,  so I shouldn't help my neighbor with a better meal tonight."

Sure. But is your next door neighbour in dire need of other basic necessities or a small bag of meat? Will God prefer saving life of a person (neighbour, for example) through financial aid or will He want you to distribute a bag of meat, needed or not?

[mesbah]

16 minutes ago, Abbas. said:

Sure. But is your next door neighbour in dire need of other basic necessities or a small bag of meat? Will God prefer saving life of a person through financial aid or distributing a bag of meat to a neighbour (or anyone else for that matter) who is already well off? 

I meant needy people where you live, not your wealthy neighbor who has a "all you can eat" refrigerator. Ulama actually say it is recommended to distribute the meat to needy people around you those you turn a blind eye on, even people among your own relatives who have less than what they deserve. So if you have access to global poors who lack basic necessities then good for them, but if you don't have access to them, don't stop giving it to your local poors, who are living in hard conditions.

There's a legal, fighi definition for poverty that is wider than just lacking basic necessities.

 

 

Edited September 5, 2016 by mesbah

[Abbas.]

1 minute ago, mesbah said:

I meant needy people where you live, not your wealthy neighbor who has a "all you can eat" refrigerator. Ulama actually say it is recommended to distribute the meat needy people, if you have access to global poors (what a term!) then good for them, but if you can't, don't stop giving it to your local poors.

there's a legal, fighi definition for poverty that is wider than just lacking basic needs.

I don't think I am making it clear enough. So kindly allow me to explain one more time: 

You have a neighbour who has 3 bills to pay, tuition fee of children to pay, several loans to pay, an air cooler to fix in a hot summer,  ...... and much more....but you chose to give him a bag of meat. On the contrary, someone decides to help that same neighbour pay off (one, few or all of) the debts so that he can live again ....... within the system. Who in your opinion has done a better job? Who has made Allah more happy?

[raza82]

Would you really need to wait for Eid ul Adha to help out this neighbor. 

 

how would you feel about helping those in Africa ?. I was in Africa last year for Qurbani while i was overseeing donations from an islamic charity, maybe you could ask them how they felt about receiving what you consider a trivial "BAG of meat"

[Nero]

12 minutes ago, Abbas. said:

I don't think I am making it clear enough. So kindly allow me to explain one more time: 

You have a neighbour who has 3 bills to pay, tuition fee of children to pay, several loans to pay, an air cooler to fix in a hot summer,  ...... and much more....but you chose to give him a bag of meat. On the contrary, someone decides to help that same neighbour pay off (one, few or all of) the debts so that he can live again ....... within the system. Who in your opinion has done a better job? Who has made Allah more happy?

I am not sure where this uneasiness is stemming from. The sacrifice is one of many ways to give "others". You are free to help your friend knowing his condition and knowing how to give him without embarrassing him, but I'm sure there are others around you (muslims or not) and plenty around the world who won't mind taking a piece of meat, especially that it is distributed not as sadaqa, makes it much easier to receive without embarrassment.

Also, do you happen to own the Book of Happiness of Allah?

What if someone paid bills of many of his friends in day of Eid, not as form of mean to make Allah happy, but as means to prove to Allah that His sacrifices methods are old and dysfunctional?

[Abbas.]

2 minutes ago, raza82 said:

Would you really need to wait for Eid ul Adha to help out this neighbor. 

 

how would you feel about helping those in Africa ?. I was in Africa last year for Qurbani while i was overseeing donations from an islamic charity, maybe you could ask them how they felt about receiving what you consider a trivial "BAG of meat"

We don't have to wait for Eid ul Adha to "help out this neighbour" but the principle still applies does it not?

I would jump upside down if you serve me with an Oportos meal. But I would much appreciate if you pay my rent first. 

[Abbas.]

5 minutes ago, Nero said:

I am not sure where this uneasiness is stemming from. The sacrifice is one of many ways to give "others". You are free to help your friend knowing his condition and knowing how to give him without embarrassing him, but I'm sure there are others around you (muslims or not) and plenty around the world who won't mind taking a piece of meat, especially that it is distributed not as sadaqa, makes it much easier to receive without embarrassment.

Also, do you happen to own the Book of Happiness of Allah?

What if someone paid bills of many of his friends in day of Eid, not as form of mean to make Allah happy, but as means to prove to Allah that His sacrifices methods are old and dysfunctional?

Regarding your first paragraph: Yes, I know that. Plenty of people around the world wouldn't mind a piece of meat. I wouldn't too (even though I don't need your invitation party). But how does that establish the worth of your sacrifice in comparison to real help required locally and globally?

I don't own the "Book of happiness of Allah" but I own a bit of common sense and  intelligence. I can deduce logical conclusion. 

Someone who "does good" to challenge Allah instead of pleasing Him will receive a reward according to his/her intention. 

[Nero]

5 minutes ago, Abbas. said:

Regarding your first paragraph: Yes, I know that. Plenty of people around the world wouldn't mind a piece of meat. I wouldn't too (even though I don't need your invitation party). But how does that establish the worth of your sacrifice in comparison to real help required locally and globally?

I don't own the "Book of happiness of Allah" but I own a bit of common sense and  intelligence. I can deduce logical conclusion. 

Someone who "does good" to challenge Allah instead of pleasing Him will receive a reward according to his/her intention. 

What invitation party?

If you think your common sense is far better than Allah's, go for it . Satan done it before you and got himself kicked out of mercy of Allah eternally.

 

[Abbas.]

4 minutes ago, Nero said:

What invitation party?

If you think your common sense is far better than Allah's, go for it . Satan done it before you and got himself kicked out of mercy of Allah eternally.

 

May you receive all the mercy of Allah. I'll stick to intelligence which according to Allah's Authorities (His Prophet & Imams) is worth more than anything. 

[Nero]

8 minutes ago, Abbas. said:

May you receive all the mercy of Allah. I'll stick to intelligence which according to Allah's Authorities (His Prophet & Imams) is worth more than anything. 

ﭔ

SAHIH INTERNATIONAL

Indeed, he thought and deliberated.

74:19

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SAHIH INTERNATIONAL

So may he be destroyed [for] how he deliberated.

74:20

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ﭙﭚﭛﭜﭝ

SAHIH INTERNATIONAL

Then may he be destroyed [for] how he deliberated.

[Abbas.]

3 minutes ago, Nero said:

ﭔ

SAHIH INTERNATIONAL

Indeed, he thought and deliberated.

74:19

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So may he be destroyed [for] how he deliberated.

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SAHIH INTERNATIONAL

Then may he be destroyed [for] how he deliberated.

Thank you for enlightening me. 

[mesbah]

1 hour ago, Abbas. said:

I don't think I am making it clear enough. So kindly allow me to explain one more time: 

You have a neighbour who has 3 bills to pay, tuition fee of children to pay, several loans to pay, an air cooler to fix in a hot summer,  ...... and much more....but you chose to give him a bag of meat. On the contrary, someone decides to help that same neighbour pay off (one, few or all of) the debts so that he can live again ....... within the system. Who in your opinion has done a better job? Who has made Allah more happy?

When you give him food -in a non-sadaqa manner like Eid al-adha- it gives him more rooms to save money and pay back his bills. (he wouldn't have to worry about that expense in his list)

[Abbas.]

2 minutes ago, mesbah said:

When you give him food -in a non-sadaqa manner like Eid al-adha- it gives him more rooms to save money and pay back his bills. (he wouldn't have to worry about that expense in his list)

Meat for the poor is not an expense but a luxury (bonus) item. A person who needs to pay bills, fees and debts couldn't care less about meat. 

[notme]

13 minutes ago, Abbas. said:

Meat for the poor is not an expense but a luxury (bonus) item. A person who needs to pay bills, fees and debts couldn't care less about meat. 

True. A poor person does not have a meat budget. Only someone who has never been poor would think otherwise. 

Giving meat to the poor is just a gift.

If you really want to help the poor, ask them what they need. If you don't want to ask, pay their rent, electricity bill, or give a grocery gift card, or try to find out if they need any home repairs or medical bills.

Edited September 5, 2016 by notme

[sakura1994]

On 9/5/2016 at 5:43 PM, Abbas. said:

Moral behind sacrificing animal: It is a reminder that you have no right to take the life of a creature of God except when permitted. It is a ritual that sets a precedent and a permission for Muslims to sacrifice halal animals in the name of God and distribute them to the needy human beings. On the day of celebration (the Eid), all will stand equal and metaphorically enjoy the luxury accessed by a few (worldwide) in normal circumstances. 

Muslims of India: It is my humble opinion that Muslims of India should be mindful of the sensitivities pertaining to the dominant religion of their location. If cows or any other animal for that matter are viewed as sacred by the majority, the minority Muslim view should respect it. 

Status of Sacrifice: According to my limited knowledge, it is an obligation on those who can afford it. It is not an obligation on those who cannot afford it. This is where the grey area begins. That is, I am of the humble opinion that it is not compulsory for me to sacrifice an animal in the name of God so long as I deem it necessary to financially support my relatives, friends and other needy Muslims or non-Muslims. In other words, I am not reasonably convinced with the idea that sacrifice of an animal is compulsory in a 'global village' in which humans are in dire need of other basic necessities. I am open to counter arguments and in fact look forward to guidance from scholars in this regard. I still pay my debt in this regard. It's just that I am not reasonably convinced with the argument. May God increase my knowledge. 

Hi , thank you for the answer .

I have another question about Eid aladha ... How is shia prayer of Eid , is it same as sunni or different , and can I pray alone in house ?

[Nero]

35 minutes ago, sakura1994 said:

Hi , thank you for the answer .

I have another question about Eid aladha ... How is shia prayer of Eid , is it same as sunni or different , and can I pray alone in house ?

That admin answer is incorrect and he is not qualified to answer such questions, a better source is this site:

Congregational prayers » Eid ul Fitr and Eid ul Azha prayers

1525. Eid ul Fitr and Eid ul Azha prayers are obligatory during the time of Imam (A.S.), and it is necessary to offer them in congregation. However during the present times when the Holy Imam is in Occultation, these prayers are Mustahab, and may be offered individually as well as in congregation

1526. The time for Eid prayers is from sunrise till Zuhr.

1527. It is Mustahab that Eid ul Azha prayers is offered after sunrise. As for Eid ul Fitr, it is Mustahab that one should have a breakfast after sunrise, pay Zakatul Fitr and then offer Eid prayers.

1528. Eid prayers has two Rak'ats. In the first Rak'at, a person should recite Surah al Hamd and a Surah and then they say five takbirs, and after every takbir he should recite qunut. After the fifth qunut, he should say another takbir and then perform Ruku and two Sajdah. He should then stand up and say four takbirs in the second Rak'at, and recite qunut after everyone of these takbirs. Thereafter, he should say the fifth takbir and then perform Ruku and two Sajdah. After the second Sajdah he should recite tashahhud, and then complete the prayers with Salam.

1529. Any recital or Dua will suffice in qunut of the Eid Prayers. However, it is better that the following Dua is recited: Allahumma ahlal kibriya'i wal 'azamah, wa ahlal judi wal jaburat, wa ahlal 'afwi war rahmah, wa ahlat taqwa wal maghfirah. As aluka bihaqqi hazal yawmil lazi ja'altahu lil muslimina 'ida , wali Muhammadin sal lal lahu 'Alaihi wa Alihi, zukhran wa sharafan wa karamatan wa mazida an tusalliya 'ala Muhammad wa Ali Muhammad wa an tudkhilani fi kulli khayrin adkhalta fihi Muhammadan wa Ala Muhammad wa an tukhrijani min kulli su'in akhrajta minhu Muhammadan wa Ala Muhammad salawatuka 'alahi wa 'alahim. Alla humma inni as aluka khayra ma sa alaka bihi ibadukas salihun, wa auzubika mim masta aza minhu ibadukal mukhlasun.

1530. During the period of 0ccultation of Imam (A.S.), it is an obligatory precaution that two sermons (khutbas) be delivered after Eid prayers, and it is better that on Eid ul-fitr, the sermons should explain rules regarding Zakatul Fitr, and on Eid ul-Azha, rules regarding sacrificing the animals be explained.

1531. No particular Surah has been specified for Eid prayers. But, it is better that after reciting Surah al Hamd in the first Rak'at, Surah Wash Shams be recited and in the second Rak'at Surah al Ghashiya. Or in the first Rak'at, to recite Surah of Sabbi Hism, and in the second Rak'at Surah Wash Shams.

1532. It is recommended that Eid prayers be performed in the open fields. However, in Makkah, it is Mustahab that it should be offered in Masjidul Haram.

1533. It is Mustahab to walk barefooted to attend Eid prayers, with all the dignity, and to do Ghusl before namaz, and to place a white turban on one's head.

1534. It is Mustahab that in Eid prayers Sajdah be performed on earth, and hands be raised while saying takbirs. It is also Mustahab that a person who is offering Eid prayers alone, or as an Imam of the congregation, recites prayers loudly.

1535. It is Mustahab that the following takbirs be said on Eid ul Fitr night (ie night preceding the Eid day), after Maghrib and Isha prayers, and on Eid day after Fajr prayers, as well as after Eid ul fitr prayers: "Allahu Akbar, Alllahu Akbar, la ilaha illal lah wallahu akbar, Allahu Akbar, wa lilla hil hamd, Allahu akbar ala ma hadana""

1536. In Eid ul Azha, it is Mustahab that the above mentioned takbirs be said after ten prayers, of which the first is the Zuhr prayers of Eid day and the last is the Fajr of 12th Zillhajj. It is also Mustahab that after the above mentioned takbirs, the following be recited: "Allahu Akbar 'ala ma razaqana min bahimatil an 'am, wal hamdu lil lahi ala ma ablana". If, a person happens to be in Mina on the day of Eid ul Azha, it is Mustahab that he should say these takbirs after fifteen prayers, of which the first is Zuhr prayers of Eid day, and the last is the Fajr prayers of the 13th of Zillhajj.

1537. The recommended precaution is that women should avoid going to offer Eid prayers. This precaution does not apply to elderly women.

1538. Like in all other prayers, the follower should recite everything in the Eid prayers, except Surah al-Hamd and the other Surah.

1539. If a follower joins the prayers at a time when the Imam has already said some takbirs, he should, while the Imam performs Ruku, say all the takbirs and qunut which he has missed, and it will be sufficient if in each qunut he says: Subhanallah or Alhamdu lillah only.

1540. If a person joins the Eid prayers when the Imam is in Ruku, he can make niyyat, say the first takbir of the prayers, and then go into Ruku.

1541. If a person forgets one Sajdah in Eid prayers, he should perform it after the prayers. Similarly, if something takes place for which a Sajadatus Sahv would be necessary after daily prayers, it will also be necessary after the Eid prayers.

 

 As brothers previously answered, the sacrifice is not obligatory out of Hajj ritual. It is highly recommended and it is a feast. It was not set to solve world hunger or poverty problems. It is just like the turkey eaten during Christians eids, except the Christian eids got all the flair of colourful tables , songs and happy clean faces, while muslim eids been painted with poor faces, hunger and violence.

Speaking ill of this eid and this ritual is like the man who abassa wa tawalla from the poor man because he ws too busy trying to befriend the rich man.

Those who can afford to buy a live cattle as not many even among the none poor can do that, they offer the cattle as qurban ( a way to seek nearness to God by doing one of His liked rituals despite all ill talk from non believers) after the slaughter, the man should cut it to pieces and distribute it among his family , neighbours and friends.

They may be able to offer to buy a piece but not many societies can offer such intact bonds between members. Others may secretly take some portions to those poor people whom no one knows about their poor state because they do not make it public. Still, a kind gesture without humiliating them.

Islamically, the day of Eid is day of thanksgiving. Thanking God and thanking his servants starting with your relatives the dead and the alive then the neighbours and friends, wishing everyone well and cleaning heart from ill feelings.

Maybe muslim houses do not look like fancy Europeans royal palaces nor luxurious hotels and restaurants. Their media may not show the consumerist audience any colourful plates and tables nor let them hear the songs but that's the defect of consumerism mindset not the rituals of eid.

[mesbah]

On 9/5/2016 at 11:25 PM, Abbas. said:

Meat for the poor is not an expense but a luxury (bonus) item. A person who needs to pay bills, fees and debts couldn't care less about meat. 

 

On 9/5/2016 at 11:38 PM, notme said:

True. A poor person does not have a meat budget. Only someone who has never been poor would think otherwise. 

Giving meat to the poor is just a gift.

If you really want to help the poor, ask them what they need. If you don't want to ask, pay their rent, electricity bill, or give a grocery gift card, or try to find out if they need any home repairs or medical bills.

وَ جَاءَتْ أُمُّ سَلَمَةَ رَضِیَ اللَّهُ عَنْهَا إِلَى النَّبِیِّ ص فَقَالَتْ یَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ یَحْضُرُ الْأَضْحَى وَ لَیْسَ عِنْدِی ثَمَنُ الْأُضْحِیَّةِ فَأَسْتَقْرِضُ وَ أُضَحِّی فَقَالَ اسْتَقْرِضِی وَ ضَحِّی فَإِنَّهُ دَیْنٌ مَقْضِیٌّ.

Umma Salama (ra) came to the Prophet (s) and said: O Apostle of God, Eid al-Adha is getting near and I don't have the price for a sacrifice, should I borrow and sacrifice? The Prophet replied: "borrow and sacrifice,  that is a kind of loan which will be paid back."

Man la yahduruhu al-faqih, Shaykh al-Saduq

 

[Abbas.]

17 hours ago, mesbah said:

 

وَ جَاءَتْ أُمُّ سَلَمَةَ رَضِیَ اللَّهُ عَنْهَا إِلَى النَّبِیِّ ص فَقَالَتْ یَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ یَحْضُرُ الْأَضْحَى وَ لَیْسَ عِنْدِی ثَمَنُ الْأُضْحِیَّةِ فَأَسْتَقْرِضُ وَ أُضَحِّی فَقَالَ اسْتَقْرِضِی وَ ضَحِّی فَإِنَّهُ دَیْنٌ مَقْضِیٌّ.

Umma Salama (ra) came to the Prophet (s) and said: O Apostle of God, Eid al-Adha is getting near and I don't have the price for a sacrifice, should I borrow and sacrifice? The Prophet replied: "borrow and sacrifice,  that is a kind of loan which will be paid back."

Man la yahduruhu al-faqih, Shaykh al-Saduq

 

Mesbah, can you kindly clarify the point you are trying to make by sharing this reference? Can you please also share the full reference? (publisher, chapter, page # e.t.c)

[mesbah]

2 hours ago, Abbas. said:

Mesbah, can you kindly clarify the point you are trying to make by sharing this reference? Can you please also share the full reference? (publisher, chapter, page # e.t.c)

1-No particular point, just found it, and thought it might change the dynamics of our consideration about this issue.

2-Man la yahdurhu al-faqih, vol.2 p.489, Hadith No. 3045, The Office of Islamic Publications, Qom.

http://ar.lib.eshia.ir/11021/2/489/استقرضی_و_ضحی

And about the grading, it is one of the Mursalat of Saduq in his book Man la yahdur, and many of Ulama deem his mursal Hadith as authentic.

There's a similar Hadith in his other book, 'ilal al-shara'i

وَ عَنْ أَبِيهِ عَنْ سَعْدٍ عَنْ أَحْمَدَ بْنِ أَبِي عَبْدِ اللَّهِ الْبَرْقِيِّ عَنْ أَحْمَدَ بْنِ يَحْيَى الْمُقْرِي عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ‏ «7» بْنِ مُوسَى عَنْ إِسْرَائِيلَ عَنْ أَبِي إِسْحَاقَ عَنْ شُرَيْحِ بْنِ هَانِي عَنْ عَلِيٍّ ع أَنَّهُ قَالَ: لَوْ عَلِمَ النَّاسُ مَا فِي الْأُضْحِيیهلَاسْتَدَانُوا وَ ضَحَّوْا إِنَّهُ لَيُغْفَرُ لِصَاحِبِ الْأُضْحِيَّةِ عِنْدَ أَوَّلِ قَطْرَةٍ تَقْطُرُ مِنْ دَمِهَا.

Imam Ali (a) said if only people knew how much reward is there in sacrificing, they would take loans and sacrifice.

'ilal al-shara'i 2:440.

[Salati AbdulQadir]

On 9/5/2016 at 4:49 PM, sakura1994 said:

first wanna ask if shia have Eid adha on same day as sunnis in 12 septamber ? , second Eid Mubarak 

third , what's is the moral behind sacrificing animal ? I know the Ismael/abrham story , but I don't understand why have to keep carrying on this tradition of slaughtering an animal every Eid ?

 

also muslims of india always get in trouble with the hindus and it create hatred among both communities when muslims slaughter cows in Eid al adha , should muslims take hindus feeling into consideration and not kill cows !! 

as for this practice is it sunnah or fard ! 

Alhamdulillah, the EID ADHA day this time around is the same. Thank God Saudi government do not play with the peoples' religion this year.

Meanwhile, slaughtering of animals on Eid-al-Adha -be it sheep or otherwise- is a Prophetic Sunnah (i.e. practice) for those who can afford it.

HAPPY EID-AL-ADHA IN ADVANCE!

Edited September 11, 2016 by Salati AbdulQadir