Thoughts 2016-2017 (Archives)

[Haimi]

Just now, Haimi said:

Isn't it enough? Actually I think it's a miracle verse, more than many.

الفرقان
إِلَّا مَن تَابَ وَآمَنَ وَعَمِلَ عَمَلًا صَالِحًا فَأُولَٰئِكَ يُبَدِّلُ اللَّهُ سَيِّئَاتِهِمْ حَسَنَاتٍ وَكَانَ اللَّهُ غَفُورًا رَّحِيمًا
But if the wrongdoer repents and Believes and amends himself and does Good deeds Allah will replace his good Deeds for the bad ones since Allah is The Merciful Forgiving;(70) 

Sadly the translator used the word "replace" while Allah swt will"convert "them.

Like turning stones to golds in less than one second.

[Reza]

Got a beautiful new rug..

[Haimi]

Thinking about the incoming Karbala trip sometimes, I'm not prepare for it...

Edited September 4, 2016 by Haimi

[Pearl178]

 

47 minutes ago, Haimi said:

Thinking about the incoming Karbala trip sometimes, I'm not prepare for it...

I doubt you can prepare for such trips. They just happen. 

[Pearl178]

Eid Al-Adha holidays just announced: one week off for the public 

[Haimi]

15 minutes ago, Pearl178 said:

 

I doubt you can prepare for such trips. They just happen. 

Got it by an invitation from a close friend just like my mashhad trip when I got it 2 weeks ago.

[DigitalUmmah]

On 03/09/2016 at 7:05 AM, IbnSina said:

Some pictures I found on an old SC members personal blog worth reflecting on:

                         
                                

 

er....pharoe:

 

 

[Soldiers and Saffron]

16 minutes ago, DigitalUmmah said:

er....pharoe:

 

 

 

Death will claim them all and the grave welcome them...

[Haimi]

25 minutes ago, IbnSina said:

 

Death will claim them all and the grave welcome them...

It's a really nice say, mashallah.

[notme]

Quote

Men who look upon themselves born to reign, and others to obey, soon grow insolent; selected from the rest of mankind their minds are early poisoned by importance; and the world they act in differs so materially from the world at large, that they have but little opportunity of knowing its true interests, and when they succeed to the government are frequently the most ignorant and unfit of any throughout the dominions.

Thomas Payne, Common Sense

This sums up the reason I distrust rich people. (Not that all are entitled and corrupt, just that many are.)

[hasanhh]

3 hours ago, notme said:

Thomas Payne, Common Sense

This sums up the reason I distrust rich people. (Not that all are entitled and corrupt, just that many are.)

Now that is a stereotype. Do you have to be rich to do wrong?

[Haimi]

12 minutes ago, hasanhh said:

Now that is a stereotype. Do you have to be rich to do wrong?

Many riches are sadly according to Ulama and Urafa and the history and the experience, then they get power(become a big power man), then they drop nuclear bomb in Hiroshima or sending ISIS to Syria and Europeans countries just like what Saudi do.

[_Fatima]

'I eagerly long for you who is out of sight, but has not forsaken us. I eagerly long for you who has departed and is invisible, but is not far from us.

I eagerly long for you who inspires love and deep affection, and the faithful men and women take delight in your memorable glory. So we are excited with a longing desire.

I eagerly long for you who is worthy of acceptance and lawful driving force of belief and conviction, never weary or annoyed. I eagerly long for you who is the root of praise and distinction, never can be uprooted.

I eagerly long for you who is always tender, gentle and comforting, never makes one’s affairs worse instead of better. I eagerly long for you who is just and equitable beyond a trace of doubt, does not take severe action until misbehaviour trespasses the limit.' 

[Soldiers and Saffron]

20 hours ago, magma said:

Got a beautiful new rug..

Upload a picture.

[notme]

6 hours ago, hasanhh said:

Now that is a stereotype. Do you have to be rich to do wrong?

Both wealth and poverty are tests, but those with wealth can do more harm than those with poverty. 

I recognize that this is an unfair prejudice and certainly not all wealthy people are ignorant of the world. Also note that I have no problem with people who have earned their wealth, only with people who were born into it. 

[Sumerian]

1 hour ago, notme said:

Both wealth and poverty are tests, but those with wealth can do more harm than those with poverty. 

I recognize that this is an unfair prejudice and certainly not all wealthy people are ignorant of the world. Also note that I have no problem with people who have earned their wealth, only with people who were born into it.

But what's wrong with people who are born wealthy? I don't see anything wrong with that either as it is completely halal. As long as they do charity, pay zakat, khums, and all other religious taxes - along with abstaining from lavish spending and showing off their money in the faces of the poor, then I see no problem in it.

[Gaius I. Caesar]

2 minutes ago, The Batman said:

But what's wrong with people who are born wealthy? I don't see anything wrong with that either as it is completely halal. As long as they do charity, pay zakat, khums, and all other religious taxes - along with abstaining from lavish spending and showing off their money in the faces of the poor, then I see no problem in it.

People who are born into wealth tend to become haughty and mishandle the wealth if not raised by the people who earn the money through blood, sweat and tears. This is not always the case, but it is especially if it is an inheritance, passed on generation to generation. 

[notme]

5 minutes ago, The Batman said:

But what's wrong with people who are born wealthy? I don't see anything wrong with that either as it is completely halal. As long as they do charity, pay zakat, khums, and all other religious taxes - along with abstaining from lavish spending and showing off their money in the faces of the poor, then I see no problem in it.

Like I said, I recognize that not all people who are born into wealth are corrupted. But too many are. 

The quote was actually talking about people who are born into kingship - like Yazid (la). I've lived my life in a capitalist system, where wealth is power. To me, it's the same. I'm not categorically denouncing all people who are born into wealth, just as I'm not categorically denouncing all who inherit leadership. It's a real danger though. Wealth and poverty are both tests. 

[Sumerian]

6 minutes ago, Gaius I. Caesar said:

People who are born into wealth tend to become haughty and mishandle the wealth if not raised by the people who earn the money through blood, sweat and tears. This is not always the case, but it is especially if it is an inheritance, passed on generation to generation. 

Yeah but like you said not all people are the same bro. Some people are born with wealth but are some of the best people. 

Heck, Prophet Sulayman [as] inherited a Kingdom. Just like there are good Kings, there are bad Kings. Same for wealthy people.

[Gaius I. Caesar]

9 minutes ago, The Batman said:

Yeah but like you said not all people are the same bro. Some people are born with wealth but are some of the best people. 

Heck, Prophet Sulayman [as] inherited a Kingdom. Just like there are good Kings, there are bad Kings. Same for wealthy people.

Fair enough, but Sulaiman (as) is an exception as he was a prophet chosen by Allah (swt), in the meantime, in this era of worldwide communication, capitalism and big banks, we must be wary of any Yazids with such wealth, inherited or not. 

Edited September 5, 2016 by Gaius I. Caesar

[Sumerian]

2 minutes ago, Gaius I. Caesar said:

Fair enough, but Sulaiman (as) is an exception as he was a prophet chosen by Allah (swt), in the meantime, in this era of worldwide communication, capitalism and big banks, we must be wary of any Yazids with such wealth, inherited or not. 

Indeed, but I can assure you, I know one person who has inherited a lot of wealth, and I have never seen him abuse his wealth for evil things. In fact he is one of the best Mu'mins I know.

[Gaius I. Caesar]

9 minutes ago, The Batman said:

Indeed, but I can assure you, I know one person who has inherited a lot of wealth, and I have never seen him abuse his wealth for evil things. In fact he is one of the best Mu'mins I know.

The problem is that Mu'mins are few and far between. Can we trust the rest who aren't Mu'mins, may have indulged questionable practices or take their wealth for granted?  Who's to stop them from buying our politics for example?  

[hasanhh]

5 hours ago, notme said:

Both wealth and poverty are tests, but those with wealth can do more harm than those with poverty. 

 

"wealth can do more harm" ?  Never heard of foundations?

As for "harm" in itself, yes. As we were told as kids, "Money destroys people." Read profiles of lottery winners. Several articles on this. Most people, anyway.

My Dad said a few times, "lf you want to know what somebody is like, give them some money."

[Marbles]

My prediction is that this pointless thread will soon die. The original Thoughts thread is almost like an SC legend, for its age and activity, to which long absent members return first thing when they're back. But, if I may speak candidly, without causing offence, this new offshoot seems like a poor attempt to claim some of that prominence.

[Soldiers and Saffron]

3 hours ago, Marbles said:

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I am happy to see you back marbles.

But I am really sad to see this post, it contributes nothing but negativity. And unlike some members the OP has been continuous in his presence and is actually taking his private time to try and improve this site by being a moderator, he has put in some actual commitment and is trying to make this a better place for us all.

If you have better ideas and ways, bismillah go for it but come on brother, look around you... with all these enemies around us do you really need to spread negativity towards one of your brothers like that?

I just think there could have been so many other things you could have talked about and said that would have made us even more happier to see you back. InshaAllah you understand what it is I am saying and I do not mean any offense by Allah(SWT).

Edited September 6, 2016 by IbnSina

[Reza]

4 hours ago, Marbles said:

My prediction is that this pointless thread will soon die. The original Thoughts thread is almost like an SC legend, for its age and activity, to which long absent members return first thing when they're back. But, if I may speak candidly, without causing offence, this new offshoot seems like a poor attempt to claim some of that prominence.

1. The original thread was becoming too bloated and out of control.

2. Adding a second thread in the franchise reduces cluttering, reduces overlapping conversations, adds more breathing room, and lets posts stay just a little longer in the spotlight without being buried several pages back in a few days.

3. This is meant to complement, not replace, the original thread. 

4. The team discussed this, and adding an extra room and outlet for the reasons above was a solution. We even discussed closing the original thread completely, and starting everything completely from scratch, but I said no. 

5. Welcome back!

Edited September 6, 2016 by magma

[Marbles]

@IbnSina and @magma

We like the Thoughts thread because anyone can post anything there (within the rules of course), be read and responded to, all at one place, without worrying about going off on tangential trips. Even members who normally don't post elsewhere will say something inconsequential in that thread which kickstarts an interesting discussion. Dividing the traffic on the thread into two streams will benefit neither thread. Despite your good intentions I still think it's a bad decision to launch Thoughts 2.0. I hope I'm entitled to have an opinion.

Edited September 6, 2016 by Marbles
typo

[Reza]

@Marbles Yes, your opinion is valued! Be sure to share more on here!

[notme]

Does anyone know what this is?

We found it in our garden when we cleared out the overgrowth. It looks vaguely gravelike.

The bricks are hollow and maybe 2" thick. Some are broken. We don't yet know how large an area is covered with them. This is what's uncovered. 

It's near what looks like it once was a fountain. Maybe it's for drainage? 

[Gaius I. Caesar]

9 hours ago, notme said:

Does anyone know what this is?

We found it in our garden when we cleared out the overgrowth. It looks vaguely gravelike.

The bricks are hollow and maybe 2" thick. Some are broken. We don't yet know how large an area is covered with them. This is what's uncovered. 

It's near what looks like it once was a fountain. Maybe it's for drainage? 

Don't touch it, consult a plumber to investigate first and maybe a raqi.

[Reza]

Rainy and windy here, uplifting!

[hasanhh]

Hmmmmm

Magma changed his avatar again. Is he having an image crisis? 

[Reza]

A comment I found while reading an article about stress and depression on Psychology Today:

 

As the economy continues its slow decline, capitalist ideology ramps up its messaging machine: it's not the system that's broke, it's the individual's lack of initiative. On Psychology Today, you see post after post about how to ace interviews, how to "stand out from the pack," and advice lists on how to be successful. You see zero posts about whether adapting yourself to this system of ever-shrinking resources is a smart long-term psychological strategy.

 

[notme]

You know that story of the Prophet hiding in the cave and spiders built webs across the opening so that when the searchers came near they assumed there could be nobody inside? I just read the same event, presented as a Christian story set in WWII. I refrained from commenting, since I don't know the validity of the hadith. I just thought it was cute that Christians are unknowingly taking inspiration from Islam. 

[Purged]

and in their honor, a whole surah was named after them. ankaboot. no wonder our granny never let us kill any spiders.