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Salam alaykum

 

 

Well, I tried to learn arabic. When I say "tried" it's because I did not know how to write and read arabic at all (I can however speak arabic), and I watched some online free videos, and it was quite good. What I did learn was the alphabet, how to write words, etc. basic things, but I needed to use these basic things to something, because I couldn't read something yet. I could write simple words, but no reading. I found out that the free materials was not enough (and the Medina Books (400 hours) wasn't enough, because I did not have the basic things and reading in order. 

 

What do you think I should do in my situation? 

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Salam alaykum

 

 

Well, I tried to learn arabic. When I say "tried" it's because I did not know how to write and read arabic at all (I can however speak arabic), and I watched some online free videos, and it was quite good. What I did learn was the alphabet, how to write words, etc. basic things, but I needed to use these basic things to something, because I couldn't read something yet. I could write simple words, but no reading. I found out that the free materials was not enough (and the Medina Books (400 hours) wasn't enough, because I did not have the basic things and reading in order. 

 

What do you think I should do in my situation? 

 

Salamunalaykum dear brother,

 

With regards to reading arabic - can you read any of the Quran? If not, perhaps try to learn some Tajweed i.e reading arabic before going on further?

 

If you mean reading arabic without any of the fatha or kasra, i.e no symbols to help you, then i recommend this Madina book series, from the start.

 

This is because when you start to learn arabic grammar, you begin to know how to read and pronounce the words. For example, forgive my phonetics but to say book you say kitabun. If you add an Al at the front it becomes Al Kitabu. If you add a Fee it becomes Fee'l Kitabi.

 

Can you see the nuances in reading it? This comes when you learn grammar.

 

If you want to learn to read arabic, then i recommend tajweed/reading the Quran with the help. Then start the grammar so you don't rely on the fatha's and kasra's etc.

 

Tell me if i helped brother as i am also on my journey to lean arabic and this is what helped me.

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Wow excellent resource. Thanks to the web, one can't complain of lack of material to learn the language of the Quran. Only the lack of will can be blamed.

 

What I find remarkable is that the renowned Madina course is designed by a non-native Tamil Muslim, who himself had to learn Arabic the hard way. I'm sure he can empathise with the problems we non-natives face when learning the grammar and syntax with the help of another language.

 

I am so tempted i want to start listening to one video and/or one chapter every two days so by year end I am sure I will be able to understand a lot of Arabic which as of now goes right over my head. I can read Arabic perfectly and have the rules of tajweed ingrained into me from the childhood. Would that help me to grasp the grammar and syntax quickly than the complete beginners?

 

Commendable job, OP. Thanks a lot. May Allah reward you for encouraging the nons in this regard.

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Wow excellent resource. Thanks to the web, one can't complain of lack of material to learn the language of the Quran. Only the lack of will can be blamed.

 

What I find remarkable is that the renowned Madina course is designed by a non-native Tamil Muslim, who himself had to learn Arabic the hard way. I'm sure he can empathise with the problems we non-natives face when learning the grammar and syntax with the help of another language.

 

I am so tempted i want to start listening to one video and/or one chapter every two days so by year end I am sure I will be able to understand a lot of Arabic which as of now goes right over my head. I can read Arabic perfectly and have the rules of tajweed ingrained into me from the childhood. Would that help me to grasp the grammar and syntax quickly than the complete beginners?

 

Commendable job, OP. Thanks a lot. May Allah reward you for encouraging the nons in this regard.

 

If you can read the arabic in your signature without any of the vowels to help you, then you do have a sort of head-start. You know, i'm also a begginer, and i know how to read arabic with vowel sounds. I think the issue with arabic is knowing how to pronounce words, the new alphabet, the tounge uses ,which puts off a lot of non -muslims who had no idea of how to recite or read Arabic off. We sort of have a head-start. You probably have a bigger head start than me in that you can - i assume- read your signature in arabic? I needed the vowels at first, but if you can read without vowels it makes life a lot easier. I.E you already know the grammar rules of reading and vocalizing but there is still a lot to learn - i.e you need to know how to form your own sentences, the meaning etc although i am no expert.

 

But for both of us there is a lot to learn, but the good news is it is possible!

 

The fantastic thing is the Madina book author also has an advanced course where he actually goes through the Quran , and books on literature to gain a real sense of mastery! All free.

 

To everyone else, THE FOLLOWING ARE NOTES AND MP3 AUDIO FILES AND MORE RESOURCES ON THE MADINA BOOK SERIES.

 

http://abdurrahman.org/arabic/madina-arabic.html

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Salamunalaykum dear brother,

 

With regards to reading arabic - can you read any of the Quran? If not, perhaps try to learn some Tajweed i.e reading arabic before going on further?

 

 

Thanks brother. The problem is that I need beginner-material.

 

 

Maybe I should have a private-teacher ?

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If you can read the arabic in your signature without any of the vowels to help you, then you do have a sort of head-start. You know, i'm also a begginer, and i know how to read arabic with vowel sounds. I think the issue with arabic is knowing how to pronounce words, the new alphabet, the tounge uses ,which puts off a lot of non -muslims who had no idea of how to recite or read Arabic off. We sort of have a head-start. You probably have a bigger head start than me in that you can - i assume- read your signature in arabic? I needed the vowels at first, but if you can read without vowels it makes life a lot easier. I.E you already know the grammar rules of reading and vocalizing but there is still a lot to learn - i.e you need to know how to form your own sentences, the meaning etc although i am no expert.

 

I can only read but have no inkling of the meaning of most words and don't know how to form sentences. I need vowels to read correctly as of now.

 

The text in my signature is not Arabic; it's Punjabi in Shahmukhi script, which is derived from Arabic script but has additional consonants and a completely different syntax.

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To avoid the without-vowel-reading problem my prof.in university started with short and easy sentences so that we recognized rather than read the words.Then we learned grammar and started reading short unvocalized texts.This is a good method to learn reading and understanding unvocalized arabic texts.We used fairy tales and easy primary school stuff.

But still much to learn...

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I can only read but have no inkling of the meaning of most words and don't know how to form sentences. I need vowels to read correctly as of now.

 

The text in my signature is not Arabic; it's Punjabi in Shahmukhi script, which is derived from Arabic script but has additional consonants and a completely different syntax.

 

Salamunalaykum,

 

Yes! Sorry for the error.

 

You are in my boat if you can read Arabic with the vowels on , but find it hard to read it without any vowels at all. 

 

We do have an advantage in that we know how words sound, we are familiar with the alphabet, even a few words here and there, so it's essentially in our minds, rather than say trying to learn Chinese where we aren't even familiar with the words and sounds.

 

The course will teach us grammar, howto read without vowels, how words change depending on where you put them in the sentence, how to make your own sentences, etc, whilst expanding your vocabulary and so on.

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There is actually a hadith from Imam al-Baqir ('a) I think, possibly narrated by al-Saduq in al-Khisal advising us to learn Arabic because it is the language of the Qur'an. But I can't manage to find it.

Yes recently read that.

Also the a scholar in before after lecture qouted this verse.

12:2

Sahih International

Indeed, We have sent it down as an Arabic Qur'an that you might understand(he used the word tadabur- contemplate).

Saying, it is wajib for us to learn Arabic.

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Yes recently read that.

Also the a scholar in before after lecture qouted this verse.

12:2

Sahih International

Indeed, We have sent it down as an Arabic Qur'an that you might understand(he used the word tadabur- contemplate).

Saying, it is wajib for us to learn Arabic.

 

assalam 'alaykum,

 

Could you post it please, it's been doing my head it not being able to find it

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assalam 'alaykum,

Could you post it please, it's been doing my head it not being able to find it

All i could find was:

It is narrated from Aslami from his father who has narrated from the sixth Imam, peace be up on him, who said,

"Learn Arabic! It is the LANGUAGE OF Allah in which He spoke to His creatures and talked to the people of the past."

Imam Jafar bin Muhammad as Sadiq said:

"Learn the Arabic, the language of the final word of Allah."

^ this is from the Quran tafseer ali pooya , on the verse 12:2

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Anyone recommend a good arabic english dictionary to go with this?

 

This is the best one for English speakers:

 

http://ejtaal.net/aa/#hw4=702,ll=2035,ls=5,la=2798,sg=687,ha=464,br=623,pr=102,aan=395,mgf=583,vi=254,kz=1566,mr=412,mn=893,uqw=1046,umr=695,ums=577,umj=515,ulq=1186,uqa=281,uqq=230,bdw=h580,amr=h416,asb=h632,auh=h1015,dhq=h358,mht=h579,msb=h155,tla=h70,amj=h507,ens=h166,mis=h1401

 

But it isn't the best for beginners because if they don't have a grasp of sarf, they won't be able to find the roots to search for.

 

If would be great if there could be a fully digitalised version of Lane's Lexicon or Hans Wehr that would find words of any form rather than roots.

 

Total beginners should just use google translate for individual words (not for sentences, for the most part, it isn't able to translate them)

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Oh cool, I guess that works better.  But these are so long, how can we watch all this while living our hectic work and consumer lifestyles?

 

Essentially, play the video at 1.5x or twice the speed. You may think this might make it inaudible, but the teacher speaks extremely slowly, if you turn the speed to 1.5x or 2x, you can get a whole lesson of three lots of 45 minutes done in just over an hour.  One can dedicate perhaps four hours or five hours  week and can in seven months complete all three books, if they supplement it with other things - i.e watching cartoons in fusah and trying to immerse yourself in the language, making posters, practising.

 

What i wrote:

 

1. Go to video's, select book one, DVD 1, then A1. After this go to A2, and A3. Then the next lesson is B1/2/3. Then the next lesson is DVD 2, A1/2/3, and so on.

2. The teacher speaks *very* slowly, to save time and get things done in half the time, you can hear him clearly if you double the speed of the youtube video.

Go to: https://www.youtube.com/html5?gl=GB

Request html5 player.

Then on the video options in the bottom right set it to 1.5x or 2x the speed. This will make it so much easier to listen to him, concentrate, and save so much time.

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Oh cool, I guess that works better.  But these are so long, how can we watch all this while living our hectic work and consumer lifestyles?

Its my own style of learning . I don't know if it works with you. Learn two different language same time, this way you will learn both due to comparison.

 

Imam Ali (as) said : " Momins are always busy " .. that means they are always thinking about something, calculating, writing, reading etc .. So while moving to office from home you can make your brain busy in comparisons.

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Its my own style of learning . I don't know if it works with you. Learn two different language same time, this way you will learn both due to comparison.

 

Imam Ali (as) said : " Momins are always busy " .. that means they are always thinking about something, calculating, writing, reading etc .. So while moving to office from home you can make your brain busy in comparisons.

 

Salamunalykum,

 

Could you elaborate on this please brother?

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Salamunalykum,

 

Could you elaborate on this please brother?

If you want to learn a language , it is better to learn two different languages same time.

 

I got this idea from kids who are studying in schools and learning different things same time. I too learned Urdu/English/Hindi same time from school , that indicates our brain is designed to compare things more better then just concentrating on one thing.

 

Lets take an example : While reciting salaat if we just concentrate on words then there is chance we will loose concentration after sometime. But when we are reciting and concentrating on words as well as meaning our both Brain .. The present and the sub conscious one both become busy on one direction. That is why all the Scholars are recommending this trick to perform salaat. Recite as well as concentrate on meaning, so both brain will become busy.

 

Same way if we learn two different languages we will learn easily.

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^ wow I hadn't thought of that, but it's so true!

 

I found it hard to persist in learning Italian when it was the only language I was learning for a few months, but paradoxically when I'm learning multiple languages now (including Arabic) it seems to be going much faster! 

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^ wow I hadn't thought of that, but it's so true!

 

I found it hard to persist in learning Italian when it was the only language I was learning for a few months, but paradoxically when I'm learning multiple languages now (including Arabic) it seems to be going much faster! 

 

His theory isn't necessarily correct for the reasons he's claiming, once you 'learn' how to learn a language, you are able to apply that to another language, that could also be a reason.

 

Although we all find inspiration in different ways, but I know that before I started learning Arabic, my Spanish was much better than it is now, now when I try to speak I use a lot of Arabic words, thinking they are Spanish.

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